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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: charlyv
Not only the radar and laser sensors, but deciphering the telemetry they would be using to control them.
If they are autonomous no telemetry is required.
"Fly over there and listen for a while. Do some tricks to get them to light up. Record it and bring it back."
EW can create the illusion of weird physics.
Upon deciding that this was not like the other cases were fighters were dispatched, and that what was going on did not display those weird physics, they they could certainly bring a few of those down to check on them, I would think.
originally posted by: crayzeed
When are people gonna get it through their thick heads, apart from VTOL and helicopters. no country in the world has any aerial platform that can stay still, make 90 degree turns or accelerate from zero to thousands of MPH in seconds.
All aircraft, besides those mentioned, depend on thrust technology to keep them airborne otherwise they would fall out of the sky.
And please DON'T come up with " but it's our own secret technology" BS. These vehicles have been seen in the skies for hundreds of years so that don't wash. And as for spying on any fleet by the enemy, one simple question:- do you really think that the enemy hasn't got multiple spy satellites like the US. Or do you really think that they would use model planes for the task, because that is what the real term is for a drone.
originally posted by: Sublant
Warzone claim both, high and low end, and quite frankly it is an insult to US military to think Russia and China are spying on frontline and even developmental assets with balloons and RC toys. On or near US soil even.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Sublant
I'm not sold on a foreign adversary being the source, actually.
It could be our own forces at work, couldn't it? Unannounced drills. Checking out response to spoofing and such like. Air Force vs. Navy.
I know of no attempts to counter the intrusions. Do you? And they certainly were not undetected.
However, that doesn't explain everything, and when anyone -- it doesn't have to be Russia or China -- can penetrate secure airspace with commercial drones, as just one example, that's an extremely serious problem.
There's another angle as far as that goes. You know those patents from that Pais fellow that showed up a couple of years ago? Any chance that's part of a disinfo campaign aimed at our adversaries? "Holy crap! They can do what?"
are calculated to mislead adversaries into the thinking the U.S. is more clueless than it actually is.
What "continued evasion?" Yeah, a few have been arm waving about it since it's been in the news but there is supposedly going to be a report to Congress. I don't expect that the public will hear much about what the military actually does know. But that doesn't mean its aliens. Let's go back to it being our adversaries checking us out. Maybe we've learned a lot about what they can do by observing their toys. Maybe we don't want them to know what we know about what they know. Or maybe the toys are ours. Same thing applies.
That also doesn't justify continued evasion of congressional oversight over UAP and military preparedness.