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UK finally NAMES an AstraZeneca vaccine fatality - for whom the Benefits did NOT outweigh the Risks

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posted on Apr, 8 2021 @ 10:16 PM
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[NB: I was initially against the experimental Covid vaccines, then supported them, but then began resisting them again - in particular ONE vaccine, AstraZeneca, as soon as the UK began boasting about the vastly higher number of antibodies it was providing compared to our own natural immune system. And I have NO family members or friends or acquaintances who share my concerns, which is slightly alienating!]



Neil Astles, aged 59, is the first publicly named person in the UK who has died from taking the UK/Sweden-developed AstraZeneca vaccine. The solicitor suffered headaches and loss of vision before dying just ten days after taking his first dose. Another 18 people have died from a total of 79 suffering complications linked to AZ in the UK alone, but Mr Astles’ death strikes more of a chord because this time we have a name, and a photograph.




As we know, Stalin famously described one death as a tragedy, but a million as just a statistic. Astles’ sister, Dr Alison Astles, calls him “extraordinarily unlucky”, but despite his family being "furious", they want people to carry on taking the vaccine because "fewer people will die".

I find that reaction extraordinary. The cynical side of me wonders if she was 'leaned on' to say that as a member of the medical profession. Or, with respect, is she basically throwing Mr Astles to the lions as just a “statistic” for the perceived greater good of humanity based on an experimental vaccine that is using the entire world’s population as its Phase IV guinea-pig run after emergency approval was granted long before long-term side-effects are known? (How the vaccines work against the more potent variants is one of my biggest concerns, especially AZ's cocktail of foreign antibodies that sets it apart from the other vaccines, in particular how they will affect our own natural immune system.)

There is a sense of tragedy attached to this particular death that is a step apart from the masses who have sadly died from Covid-19. He didn’t perish because of a pandemic or associated recklessness on his part - no, he died because the State recommended an experimental vaccine for his own safety. Despite the emerging reports in Europe of deaths and severe illness due to AstraZeneca, he no doubt believed the vaccines were safe because the State declared... (shall we sing the next bit as a chorus?) ...

The Benefits Outweigh The Risks(tm).

The obvious flaw being that we don’t KNOW all the risks yet.

Indeed, how many victims (whether deceased or seriously injured) of the vaccine are an 'acceptable number' as the months roll by and the second shots are distributed, followed by 'boosters' in the autumn?

500? 5000? 50,000? 500,000?



PS: Forgive me for going off on a tangent, but I just had a thought. As for AstraZeneca themselves, I find it curious that their Phase III UK clinical trials in 2020 began with six thousand volunteers wandering around the County of Kent. As reported on 28th August 2020 (and you'll be hard pushed to find this info anywhere else):


Almost 6,000 people across Kent have signed up to take part in Covid-19 vaccination trials since registration opened just over a month ago.

Volunteers will be among the first invited to take part in large-scale testing in the search for protection against coronavirus
which is expected to start in the autumn, according to The National Institute for Health Research (NIHR).... There are two national coronavirus vaccine studies approved by NIHR in the UK, run by the University of Oxford and Imperial College London.

www.kentonline.co.uk...

What started in Kent obviously didn't stay in Kent. Just as the virus was beginning to diminish last Summer, were the AZ profs (for the good of mankind, remember) unconsciously and recklessly inviting the virus to mutate into the Wuhan-topping Kent Variant that is currently ravaging the globe? Other 2020 Phase III clinical trials for AstraZeneca took place in… South Africa and Brazil. AZ’s own site boasted about it on 20th July 2020:



Late-stage Phase II/III trials are currently underway in the UK, Brazil and South Africa and are due to start in the US. Trials will determine how well the vaccine will protect from the COVID-19 disease and measure safety and immune responses in different age ranges and at various doses.



This is just a sudden hunch of mine regarding AZ's potential blame for three variants - I've not seen it discussed anywhere; could be deluded rubbish but I'll leave it here as food for thought. If it has been debunked, feel free to shoot me down in flames and spit in my eye.



PPS: Meanwhile, the UK government has today declared that people under thirty years of age will be offered alternatives to AstraZeneca - which is no comfort to my mate's 18-year-old daughter who was given the AZ vaccine two weeks ago (due to underlying medical conditions).


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posted on Apr, 8 2021 @ 10:51 PM
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Back in April 2020, I wanted not a single human being to die due to the forced vaccines that were in our near future.
But after many reports about deaths and injuries started to pop in alternative AND mainstream media, I came to terms with he fact that some people are just not meant to "wake up" and that you're practically not using your brain at all if you decide to ignore all of this and STILL take the jab because the government and it's doctors know what they're talking about. At that point, you deserve your death because you decided to follow the herd instead of doing your OWN research
It's funny how when I mention these kinds of things to someone in a youtube comment they go "well where's all yur proof" when its The Washington Post or CNN themselves reporting the side effects and suspicious deaths. It's sad what humanity has turned into. No one in the government will stop this either, Puppet Trump didn't stop it and Puppet Biden sure as hell won't and thats just for the US. All world leaders are in on this agenda.
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posted on Apr, 8 2021 @ 11:50 PM
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"Oops, my bad!"

-Bill Gates

This on top of the recent orange county school news, Nuremberg sounds fitting.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Wow, how many doses of COVID-19 vaccine were administered for these 18 to have fatal complications? - Apparently 37 million doses in the UK alone.

And how many have already died of COVID-19 in the UK? 127,000?

Hmm...

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posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 12:41 AM
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The Kent, Brazil and South Africa varients support what Geert Vanden Bossche has been saying. He works for the vaccine industry, designing vaccines, and he is dead against these vaccines being given during the pandemic as there are creating mutating viruses which will be vaccine resistant and be like super bugs. He explains how escape immunity works and how dangerous it is for humanity as a whole.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 01:02 AM
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127000 - false

The numbers are fake. The virus is not Ebola.

Ignore

The

Media


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posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 01:21 AM
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originally posted by: CthulhuMythos
The Kent, Brazil and South Africa varients support what Geert Vanden Bossche has been saying. He works for the vaccine industry, designing vaccines, and he is dead against these vaccines being given during the pandemic as there are creating mutating viruses which will be vaccine resistant and be like super bugs. He explains how escape immunity works and how dangerous it is for humanity as a whole.


The odds of Covid variants randomly breaking out where phase 3 trials of vaccine were being tested are a billion to one. Related? Absolutely. This would make Vanden Bossche correct about his statement that the drivers of mutation were in the vaccine. The vaccinated become mutation factories and asymptomatic spreaders simultaneously. Double whammy.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 01:26 AM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
127000 - false

The numbers are fake. The virus is not Ebola.

Ignore

The

Media


Any evidence its fake or is it just your feeling?
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posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 01:29 AM
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I had covid and ended up in hospital in Wolverhampton with deep vein thrombosis and a pulmonary embolism. I nearly died. So I very much resent the idiots on here saying it doesn't exist.
I had no underlying conditions and am quite fit as a former British soldier who ran and went to the gym most days so didn't see it coming!

I know this is a conspiracy site and I am worried now because I'm now a blood clot risk and took the astazeneca first jab a month ago. I'm ok folks



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 01:42 AM
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a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Yet literally hundreds of other experts disagree with Vanden Bossche.

I'm no expert but it seems to me some people are just seeking their 15minutes.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 01:58 AM
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The Kent online story is reporting on the ammount of people in the Kent region who volunteered for Phase III trials, a significant portion were selected from there to analyse the Kent variation. Over 20,000 people in the UK took part in the AZ phase iii trial with 60,000 worldwide. Do you not remember the calls for volunteers to apply?

The blood clot evidence is pretty shaky still. It was the one recomended as lowest risk by UK neurologists in an enhanched review before people in the top priority group could get it. Mine is one of the top profs in the country and my consultant neuro specialises in strokse and both recomended it as Moderna and Pfizer have higher incidence rates of blood clots in the brain.

CIST is the biggest cause of strokes in young people with average age of mid 30s, twice as many women get it as men, the contraceptive pill seems to cause it and the background incidence rate is two to five major cases per million people per year.

The worst case scenario is less than one in 10 mil risk compared to the 1 in 100 risk of having a stroke from Covid as strokes occur in 1.8% of covid patients.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 02:05 AM
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Those who deny that Covid isn't dangerous/is a hoax say it has only killed the same amount of people as a seasonal flu (its killed a lot more - 127k in the UK, 560k in the US, 2.9m workdwide) and therefore no one should be worried about it

Those who claim the vaccines are dangerous are now saying so because 7 people in the UK out of 30 million vaccinated have had blood clots.

The best advice I think anyone can give on ATS is not to take medical advice from threads on ATS



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 02:10 AM
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originally posted by: EvanB
I had covid and ended up in hospital in Wolverhampton with deep vein thrombosis and a pulmonary embolism. I nearly died. So I very much resent the idiots on here saying it doesn't exist.
I had no underlying conditions and am quite fit as a former British soldier who ran and went to the gym most days so didn't see it coming!

I know this is a conspiracy site and I am worried now because I'm now a blood clot risk and took the astazeneca first jab a month ago. I'm ok folks

YOU'RE okay. The many who have died and been injured were not okay. Your results don't apply to everyone, just like with Covid.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 02:12 AM
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originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
[NB: I was initially against the experimental Covid vaccines, then supported them, but then began resisting them again - in particular ONE vaccine, AstraZeneca...


They are not experimental vaccines. They are in use.


The Benefits Outweigh The Risks(tm).
The obvious flaw being that we don’t KNOW all the risks yet.


The statistics are in the public domain. We know the risks. It’s a a one in a million chance for the age groups in question that you will form a rare blood-clot, something which may happen without the vaccination anyway.

Besides, everything carries risk anyway. You have a greater chance of dying from Covid than dying from a possible (because it's not definitively proven, but now seems likely) link between Covid and rare blood clots. As has been reminded elsewhere, you have a greater chance of blood clots using the contraceptive pill.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
127000 - false

The numbers are fake. The virus is not Ebola.

Ignore

The

Media


Any evidence its fake or is it just your feeling?


Look around

The virus isn’t ‘fake’, nobody is claiming that. But it’s certainly not anywhere near as bad as is being made out, certainly not bad enough to literally shut the world.

It’s not smallpox



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 02:29 AM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
127000 - false

The numbers are fake. The virus is not Ebola.

Ignore

The

Media


Any evidence its fake or is it just your feeling?


Look around

The virus isn’t ‘fake’, nobody is claiming that. But it’s certainly not anywhere near as bad as is being made out, certainly not bad enough to literally shut the world.

It’s not smallpox


So you think the UK covid deaths are fake based on personal observation?

Unless you are going round UK mortuarys doing 5 bar gates on a clip board I am not sure that's really a thing...



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 04:45 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
127000 - false

The numbers are fake. The virus is not Ebola.

Ignore

The

Media


Any evidence its fake or is it just your feeling?


Look around

The virus isn’t ‘fake’, nobody is claiming that. But it’s certainly not anywhere near as bad as is being made out, certainly not bad enough to literally shut the world.

It’s not smallpox


So you think the UK covid deaths are fake based on personal observation?

Unless you are going round UK mortuarys doing 5 bar gates on a clip board I am not sure that's really a thing...



How many deaths would normal flu (or any illness) boast if it included everyone who had had the virus within 28 days of dying? A lot more.
With the figures we have the covid deaths seem to be 6.5 times higher than normal flu.
112,000 deaths in England. Usual flu is about 17,000.
Excess deaths in U.K. is 80,000 for last year.

How many have died because of cancelled hospital appointments? Who knows.

But on the assumption that 70,000 excess deaths in England happened last year, even if we say they are all solely the result of covid, it means it’s 4 times deadly than normal flu.

Is that enough to destroy the economy and have business close for good? I’m not sure.

Is it enough to scare people into having a vaccination that doesn’t prevent you from catching it or spreading it? I don’t think so.



posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 04:53 AM
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Your information supports some study reports I've read about "immune escape", how the vaccines push the virus to mutate into more contagious and deadly forms vs the natural immune response to the "wild" virus.


Dr. Bossche warns the world is creating an “uncontrollable monster” and turning vaccines into “a bioweapon of mass destruction”
Here’s an actual quote from Dr. Bossche: One could only think of very few other strategies to achieve the same level of efficiency in turning a relatively harmless virus into a bioweapon of mass destruction.
As Dryburgh.com explains: Dr Bossche believes that vaccinologists, clinicians, and scientists are only focusing on short-term results at the individual level and not the consequences at the global population level, which he believes will soon become evident. Evident in the form of having transformed “a quite harmless virus into an uncontrollable monster”. His concern rests on ‘immune escape’. For those needing an quick introduction to the topic, read Jemma Moran’s article Mutant variations and the danger of lockdowns.


www.naturalnews.com


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posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 04:59 AM
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originally posted by: MazMaric

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
127000 - false

The numbers are fake. The virus is not Ebola.

Ignore

The

Media


Any evidence its fake or is it just your feeling?


Look around

The virus isn’t ‘fake’, nobody is claiming that. But it’s certainly not anywhere near as bad as is being made out, certainly not bad enough to literally shut the world.

It’s not smallpox


So you think the UK covid deaths are fake based on personal observation?

Unless you are going round UK mortuarys doing 5 bar gates on a clip board I am not sure that's really a thing...



How many deaths would normal flu (or any illness) boast if it included everyone who had had the virus within 28 days of dying? A lot more.
With the figures we have the covid deaths seem to be 6.5 times higher than normal flu.
112,000 deaths in England. Usual flu is about 17,000.
Excess deaths in U.K. is 80,000 for last year.

How many have died because of cancelled hospital appointments? Who knows.

But on the assumption that 70,000 excess deaths in England happened last year, even if we say they are all solely the result of covid, it means it’s 4 times deadly than normal flu.

Is that enough to destroy the economy and have business close for good? I’m not sure.

Is it enough to scare people into having a vaccination that doesn’t prevent you from catching it or spreading it? I don’t think so.





The ONS uses death certificate data, not the 28 day rule that is used on the daily government dashboards. The ONS still shoes about 80k deaths from covid last year in England and Wales.

The overall excess deaths shows a 14% increase in expected deaths.

You are comparing the deaths from covid with the mitigation measures in place with the deaths from flu in a normal year. The value of the measures can't be measured by how many people did die, but by how many might have died if they weren't introduced. That would not only be direct deaths from covid but the knock on impact of the hospitals being overwhelmed by covid cases and staff shortages.




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posted on Apr, 9 2021 @ 05:06 AM
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So the Government are now backed into a corner/shot themselves in the foot.
If adverse and death figures keep going up at the rate they are, can you imagine the outrage if they stopped all vaccination 'due to concerns', from all the people who have had the jab? 'Devil they do and devil if they don't' is right here and right now.
it's a FUBAR situation currently.

Rainbows
Jane




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