Question - New World Order or One World Government Any Difference

When I consider the apparent fact that our Republic is turning commie and that the Chinese government is largely responsible, I have always reached a little further and ask, "who is behind China?"

Perhaps it was big daddy Bush who helped me give more weight to the idea that some shadow government somewhere was pulling the strings when he talked about a "New World Order".

Lately I've been looking at the whole New World Order or One World Government idea from a number of angles.

1. Does any government of any kind, shadow or otherwise, have any control at any level? Is everything out of control with no one at the wheel?

2. Is the goal of world domination the ultimate goal of any and all governments or people with political power? Is this "I'm the King of the World" type syndrome common among world leadership?

3. Is there a struggle for the control of our planet and everything in it's gravity well with a winner takes all end plan or is that struggle over now with only one government calling the shots?

4. Is there a need for some covert supranational secret shadow government to have control, or is this plot to take over the world plainly the effort of the usual suspects like China and Russia?

We've always had the usual suspects to place in a line up for identification, it gives us a feeling of confidence. You have the big banking cartel and/or the aristocratic bloodlines as those suspected to be behind the NWO curtain, so that continues to be in the mix.

Bottom line here is, regardless of who or what is behind the New World Order, if it really exists and they succeed (or have succeeded), it is still a One World Government with no self ruling individual nation states. What that government will be called after it is realized may be communist, fascist, technocratic, but I doubt it will be a United Republic of nation states and have any real civil rights or some form of democracy (perhaps in name only).

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Expat here, China has nothing to do with whats happening in US politics right now it is entirely domestic

Biden and AOCs policy don't remotely resemble China's policies, and so long as there are few trade barriers the Chinese government couldn't care less what happens in Washington.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yes, an excellent post. Doesn't China and Russia have enough on their plates?

On the other had, there are a number of reports that plainly show Chinese communist influence in media, politics, corporations, etc. I'm sure they'd love to see the U.S. go the way of socialism and then full blown communist.

ETA: There is the conspiracy theory that has China playing the "long game" and the communist "change from within" strategy. Of course, with the change from within plan, we do it to ourselves.

A New World Order, run by a One World Government.

Everything will be clear once we enter in war with Russia.

originally posted by: Trueman
Everything will be clear once we enter in war with Russia.

Yeah, vodka prices will soar and soon after found to be a cure for all COVID variants.

originally posted by: Kromlech
A New World Order, run by a One World Governement.

Exactly my point in a one liner, any NWO will be a One World Government, so what's the difference who is behind the curtain? The question then becomes what type of government will it be?

ETA: I forgot to include a theocracy in my NWO one government mix, except the religious along with the useful idiots will likely get slaughtered.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
We have American vodka.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
We have American vodka.

Sure, Smirnoff maybe, then you got Mohawk and Skyy Vodka.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yes, an excellent post. Doesn't China and Russia have enough on their plates?

On the other had, there are a number of reports that plainly show Chinese communist influence in media, politics, corporations, etc. I'm sure they'd love to see the U.S. go the way of socialism and then full blown communist.

ETA: There is the conspiracy theory that has China playing the "long game" and the communist "change from within" strategy. Of course, with the change from within plan, we do it to ourselves.

That's just it, people keep saying "Communist", which is extremely inaccurate. China is authoritarian, but it's barely even socialist these days. Whenever you hear communist this or communist that you know that the person speaking doesn't understand modern China.

Why would China want the US to be communist or socialist?

It makes no sense, China wants the US to be wealthy and prosperous and Capitalist because that means Americans will buy more Chines products. Communists don't buy a new big screen TV every year. And the so called media influences is all about marketing and money, not political ideology. China isn't the NWO, it's the shopping channel.

China prefers Biden to Trump because Trump didn't understand trade or economics, and because he might start a shooting war which is bad for business.

If this were Star trek China would be the ferengie, not the Romulans.

America's political problems are domestic in nature and are due to people with victim mentalities looking for revenge, not die to anything that China is doing. Division is bad for sales.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
Incredibly short sided thinking when dealing with a nation/culture that has existed thousands of years
and plans things well in advance of taking action.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

originally posted by: Kromlech
A New World Order, run by a One World Governement.

Exactly my point in a one liner, any NWO will be a One World Government, so what's the difference who is behind the curtain? The question then becomes what type of government will it be?

ETA: I forgot to include a theocracy in my NWO one government mix, except the religious along with the useful idiots will likely get slaughtered.

Christians have been watching for this for 2000 years.
It is being run by a being that doesnt care about Humanity because it is not apart of Humanity, and hates its creator and Humanity with a vengeance. Its a Seraphim. Super powerful serpent type creature, that is so powerful, that Michael the Arc Angel does not chance tangling with it. Instead, he says " I rebuke you in the name of God".

Your only chance is to receive a more powerful spirit, so that you will be able to proudly proclaim, " Greater is Him who is within me, that he who is within the world".

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
We have American vodka.

Sure, Smirnoff maybe, then you got Mohawk and Skyy Vodka.

We have Tito's too. Texan vodka.

www.titosvodka.com... 96138&kw=tito%27s%20vodka&pmt=e&pdv=c&gclid=e7dadf15f90110f85b8abf798023b628&gcl3p.ds&&utm_content=&mkwid=s&pcrid=&pkw=tito%27s%20vodka&pmt=e&pdv=c&pg rid=1147890825403434&ptaid=kwd-71743702956289:loc-190&msclkid=e7dadf15f90110f85b8abf798023b628

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

"who is behind China?"

Thought there were some telling remarks about China in this vid from technocrats like Rothschild, Soros, Rockefeller, Kissenger, Brzezinski etc. - also info about China's historical involvement with the Yale S+B cult.

a reply to: Trueman

Is Tito Russian?

Just a Thought

Once you figure out that we've been living under a One World Government - You'll stop fighting to Keep it under the illusion of a bigger boogieman comin to get ya -

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: Trueman

Is Tito Russian?

Nope, but he's stealing Russia's thunder with that juice.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yes, an excellent post. Doesn't China and Russia have enough on their plates?

On the other had, there are a number of reports that plainly show Chinese communist influence in media, politics, corporations, etc. I'm sure they'd love to see the U.S. go the way of socialism and then full blown communist.

ETA: There is the conspiracy theory that has China playing the "long game" and the communist "change from within" strategy. Of course, with the change from within plan, we do it to ourselves.

With China and Russia it would behove you to realise that in the same way the left and right are two sides of the same coin domestically in the USA, thus communism and capitalism on the world stage.

Although both appear to be antithetical to the other there are threads on this very site, as I am sure you are aware, outlining how communism was established in China and it was through players from the USSA.

Divide and conquer operates within a broader scope and is more closely entwined at inception then is commonly realised.

I don’t know what conclusions to draw from these facts but it is indicative of the manipulation coming from a single source IMO. What do you think?

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yes, an excellent post. Doesn't China and Russia have enough on their plates?

On the other had, there are a number of reports that plainly show Chinese communist influence in media, politics, corporations, etc. I'm sure they'd love to see the U.S. go the way of socialism and then full blown communist.

ETA: There is the conspiracy theory that has China playing the "long game" and the communist "change from within" strategy. Of course, with the change from within plan, we do it to ourselves.

With China and Russia it would behove you to realise that in the same way the left and right are two sides of the same coin domestically in the USA, thus communism and capitalism on the world stage.

Although both appear to be antithetical to the other there are threads on this very site, as I am sure you are aware, outlining how communism was established in China and it was through players from the USSA.

Divide and conquer operates within a broader scope and is more closely entwined at inception then is commonly realised.

I don’t know what conclusions to draw from these facts but it is indicative of the manipulation coming from a single source IMO. What do you think?

Yes, the microcosm is like the macrocosm, as below so above. But cannot this yin yang dynamic be natural?

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Overall, it does seem that it is a historical pattern for power structures to grow their influence and establish "staying power" over time.

When that happens seems to be determined by the current state of technological advancement. It kind of builds up to a point where it bursts through a weak point in the checks & balances that have been built previously.

China is obviously a major player in the world, and maybe they are acting entirely autonomously.. But it seems there are certainly inklings, at the very least, of more obfuscated power structures.

For deeper connections, its probably good to look into associations regarding money, and who/what they associate with. Meaning, someone like Bill Gates has his fingers in an enormous amount of pies. Someone like Fauci has some very interesting connections to China, particularly funding, research, and a certain lab in Wuhan.

So much of it seems to go back to Agenda 21, including the propaganda that gets dispersed in the most common information channels. Basically just a series of crises (manufactured or otherwise) that require "acting now!"

The "Rio Declaration on Environment and Development" was signed onto by the vast majority of nations in 1992. So, whatever that actually is, most of the world is "officially" on board.

We know from history that we always need to be on the lookout for tyrannical systems taking over. We also know from history that how that manifests changes according to the context of the time and the tools available.

Id say that looking into the goals is enough to suggest some serious comprehensive ambition. The tracking of this progress is much more advanced than many realize, and pretty in-depth tools are on offer as well.

All the marketing around this sounds great! It literally targets all of the major woes of the world. Issues that I believe people are sensing we can actually address effectively for the first time in known history. We are told that we really can do it too, if you only do what you are told & give money, authority, and influence to these specific organizations. With the decades of duplicity, disingenuousness, and outright manipulation though.. Its probably prudent to question the wisdom of continuing to go down that road.