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originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Lumenari
Immunity from having it is proving to be around 3 or 4 months. The vaccine is showing promising results now that show it could be permanent, or at the very least 6 months to a year.
The Centers for Disease Control says almost noone who contracted Covid-19 since early 2020 has contracted it again. "Extremely rare" to catch it twice, according to the CDC.
originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
a reply to: carewemust
I'd take a guillotine first.
Maybe even kiss Nancy Pelosi. Maybe.
*shivers and swallows vomit
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Lumenari
It doesn't matter what I post. Your answer will be, "fAkE nEwS", "fAlSe PoSiTiVeS", "sCaMdEmIc", "FlAt EaRtH", "qAnOn", etc...
Immunity from having it is proving to be around 3 or 4 months. The vaccine is showing promising results now that show it could be permanent, or at the very least 6 months to a year.
With all due respect if immunity was just 3-4 for those who have had COVID we would be inundated with reinfections
www.cdc.gov...
Reinfection with COVID-19
Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare.
In general, reinfection means a person was infected (got sick) once, recovered, and then later became infected again. Based on what we know from similar viruses, some reinfections are expected. '
www.theguardian.com...
Is a reinfection likely to be worse or milder than a previous infection?
Again, that is unclear. “Different people will react differently to reinfection, depending on how their immune responses reacted to the first infection, probably,” says Julian Tang, a clinical virologist and honorary associate professor in the respiratory sciences department at the University of Leicester.
For some, a second infection is less severe than the first. According to a study from Qatar, less than 0.2% of people tested positive for Covid at least 45 days after their first positive test, with only about a fifth of these showing strong or good evidence for reinfection. Of these 54 people, just one was hospitalised, and even then only with a mild infection.
A second study from Qatar – yet to be peer-reviewed – supports this, with two-thirds of reinfections only picked up through random or routine testing. Again it suggest reinfection is rare, with just 129 people out of 43,044 followed showing evidence of reinfection over a median of 16.3 weeks.
The PHE study also suggested that reinfection tended to be less severe, with about a third of those who caught Covid for a second time showing symptoms, compared with 78% for first infection
This article was amended on 13 February 2021. The original incorrectly stated that a study about to be published in the Journal of Infection found that of 33 people thought to have caught Covid for a second time, one died, and 12 were hospitalised. It was actually 12.1% (four people) of the 33 who needed treatment in hospital.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: carewemust
Monday, April 5, 2021
In those who have recovered from Covid-19, the body's Covid-19 antibodies have produced a Covid-19 immunity response that is (so far) effective for a longer period of time than the Covid-19 immunity response triggered by the vaccines.
First f%@(>,% paragraph = false.[...]
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
a reply to: carewemust
I'd take a guillotine first.
Maybe even kiss Nancy Pelosi. Maybe.
*shivers and swallows vomit
Unfortunately, our society is now being controlled by "squishy" types. The vaccine or (I hope!) proof of antibodies, will be mandatory in order to do things, like renew your drivers license, board an airplane, enter a sports stadium, and more.
EVIDENCE SUMMARY
There are no specific guidelines for use of messenger RNA (mRNA)vaccines or contraindications to mRNA vaccines.
No large trials of any mRNA vaccine have been completed yet.The only evidence on safety of mRNA vaccines comes from small phase I and phase II trials of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, with follow-up typically less than two months.
Systemic adverse events such as fatigue, muscle aches, headache, and chills are common.
Severe systemic adverse events were reported by 5 to 10 percent of trial subjects. Localized adverse events such as pain at the injection side are common.
Both systemic and local adverse events usually are resolved within one or two days.
The rate and severity of adverse events appears to be higher for the second dose of vaccine than for the first.
Higher vaccine doses appear to increase the rate and severity of adverse events.
Larger trials of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are in progress, with results expected in mid-2021.
There is not sufficient evidence to support any conclusions on the comparative safety of different mRNA vaccines.
Direct evidence on the comparative safety of mRNA vaccines and other vaccines is lacking.
Cause for recall:
increased risk of birth defects, miscarriages, and premature births when used by pregnant women; inflammatory bowel disease; suicidal tendencies
Over 7,000 lawsuits were filed against the manufacturer over the side effects including a $10.5 million verdict and two $9 million verdicts.
originally posted by: carewemust
But there's no money to be made from the 30 million Americans who now have natural immunity.
Memory B cells circulate in the blood stream in a quiescent state, sometimes for decades.[1] Their function is to memorize the characteristics of the antigen that activated their parent B cell during initial infection such that if the memory B cell later encounters the same antigen, it triggers an accelerated and robust secondary immune response.[2][3] Memory B cells have B cell receptors (BCRs) on their cell membrane, identical to the one on their parent cell, that allow them to recognize antigen and mount a specific antibody response.[4]
Where ever that come from, it is way out of date or just plain lying to you.
No large trials of any mRNA vaccine have been completed yet.The only evidence on safety of mRNA vaccines comes from small phase I and phase II trials of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines
There were 74 341 person-months of safety follow-up (median 3·4 months, IQR 1·3-4·8): 175 severe adverse events occurred in 168 participants, 84 events in the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 group and 91 in the control group. Three events were classified as possibly related to a vaccine: one in the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 group, one in the control group, and one in a participant who remains masked to group allocation.
Interpretation: ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 has an acceptable safety profile and has been found to be efficacious against symptomatic COVID-19 in this interim analysis of ongoing clinical trials.
originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Phage
And your links must be trustworthy because vaccine makers never lie. The U.K. crime minister has just announced that two people who have been vaccinated can’t meet indoors. What’s that Bo Jo? The vaccine makers say themselves you can still catch and transmit Covid once vaccinated, it just lessons the symptoms. What’s that? Asymtomatic spreaders much? Forcing Covid to mutate into something far worse perhaps? Some experts think so..
originally posted by: seeker1963
If these governments were so caring and afraid of people dying of this, why are they allowing so many outsiders in?
If these governments were so caring and afraid of people dying of this, why are they allowing so many outsiders in?