Forced, or Coerced Vaccines/Passports Are They Illegal or Legal? – US Federal Code of Regulations

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

This is a watershed moment.

What freedoms do we actually have?

Our nation was established and molded so that everyone is able to be free with limited reasons for restrictions on their true freedom. Not to have more and more restrictions on common accepted freedoms like breathing air thru our mouths without a mask unless we want to wear one.
You and xuenchen are spot on from my own observations to ask and realize that we have less freedoms. Just where does it stop? When we have had enough and it seems we are getting there now. If this continues at the pace of lunacy seen lately, then I am sure we won't be free to discuss the freedoms pretty soon. Not without getting a Psch evaluation dialogue going on CNN, FOX and the BSNBC's for those selfish freedom lovers who think that way.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pteridine

None of the ones in everyday use protect against viruses.

The primary purpose is not to protect the wearer.
Why do you think surgeons wear masks? It's not to protect themselves.

I thought surgeons wore masks to look cool.
Masks can't stop anything in either direction of flow unless they are sealed tightly against the face. Fauci was an author on a paper that said a large fraction of the Spanish flu deaths were a result of bacterial pneumonia from wearing cloth masks.

Predominant Role of Bacterial Pneumonia as a Cause of Death in Pandemic Influenza by David M. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, and Anthony S. Fauci.

Conclusions

The majority of deaths in the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic likely resulted directly from secondary bacterial pneumonia caused by common upper respiratory–tract bacteria.

Prevention, diagnosis, prophylaxis, and treatment of secondary bacterial pneumonia, as well as stockpiling of antibiotics and bacterial vaccines, should also be high priorities for pandemic planning.

Didn't find any mentions of masks in this particular paper but discusses alot on bacterial pneumonia.

And it is a logical fact that wearing a mask make it so your bacteria are captured on the masks within seconds of breathing. The pretense that these facts on masks are safe is BS. IF you don't wear a space suit, then you don't stay free of viruses or bacteria in your lungs. Do we see many wearing space suits outside of the WuHan flu Dr's? Do they still wear those now?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

This is a watershed moment.

What freedoms do we actually have?

DC,

That is a valid question.

The issues I have with this absolute civil-rights/constitutional rights infringement:

Currently, the only people that lose rights to travel, work, vote, and similar are criminals with a felony.


So have we committed a crime?, if so have we gotten our due-process. See where I'm going with this?


Where exactly would the Covid-Passports begin, and end? If the Passports are allowed, who is to stop it at just Vaccines.

Perhaps mental health issue people added to the passport and then force meds? Or maybe we deem alcohol users a risk, because they kill themselves and other people, at a rate of 100k per year in the USA.

I could go on, but I think I made a valid point here.

a reply to: Realtruth

I am lucky. I'm "essential" personnel. So I get a pass on not being able to take the vaccine. I have nice and official letters for 3 states Dept. of Public Health departments. I could literally go maskless and run naked (ew) through the streets and all I have to do is show the letters.

But I ask, and ask constantly, about those who aren't as fortunate as myself. And I've yet to get an answer.

We're developing a situation where we'll have our own caste system.

And it's disturbing.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

I have nice and official letters for 3 states Dept. of Public Health departments. I could literally go maskless and run naked (ew) through the streets and all I have to do is show the letters.

When they start saying "Show us your papers"...you're all set.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

I have nice and official letters for 3 states Dept. of Public Health departments. I could literally go maskless and run naked (ew) through the streets and all I have to do is show the letters.

When they start saying "Show us your papers"...you're all set.

Sadly, I'll be one of the privileged, until I say something wrong or they find my ATS account.

Voluntary one or emergency one thing, but forcing it is another. If the virus already ran it course, it will be no less dangerous then common cold. And the one after that, an the one after that.

Not too mention the other 18 strains no one gives a crap about, almost like everyone forgot what happened to the Aztecs.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

We're developing a situation where we'll have our own caste system.

And it's disturbing.

What is a "caste system"? Sounds really bad.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

I have nice and official letters for 3 states Dept. of Public Health departments. I could literally go maskless and run naked (ew) through the streets and all I have to do is show the letters.

When they start saying "Show us your papers"...you're all set.

Proof of Vaccine or Proof of Antibodies should carry the same weight in those "papers".

a reply to: carewemust

The system of governance in Hindu areas. True segregation based on. . . . . Wait for it. . . . Privilege.....

I guess this is why America has the second amendment. Resistance to oppression.
When the unvaccinated are unable to shop or socialise or travel just remember why you cherish that amendment.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

No, I didn't.
Because vaccinations have been around for ages and stuff like there being no recommendation to do so. I didn't give it a lot of thought.

I'll maybe put more thought into it next season, if masking requirements for COVID go away. The practices instituted for COVID seem to have had a major effect on flu transmission. Seems like social distancing and masks nearly nearly eliminated transmission. Also, more people got flu vaccinations. Awareness of something can often affect behavior, if one is not in denial.

There are UV masks available now for those who want to protect themselves.
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I know some people who will continue to do car side pickup

originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Realtruth

This is a watershed moment.

What freedoms do we actually have?

DC,

That is a valid question.

The issues I have with this absolute civil-rights/constitutional rights infringement:

Currently, the only people that lose rights to travel, work, vote, and similar are criminals with a felony.


So have we committed a crime?, if so have we gotten our due-process. See where I'm going with this?


Where exactly would the Covid-Passports begin, and end? If the Passports are allowed, who is to stop it at just Vaccines.

I would think in terms of ebola or aids spreading like covid. Hopefully the UV mask technology makes this a mute point, if someone wants to protect themselves, go ahead.

Perhaps mental health issue people added to the passport and then force meds? Or maybe we deem alcohol users a risk, because they kill themselves and other people, at a rate of 100k per year in the USA.

I think some cars have had breath testers in them. People get their licenses pulled all the time.