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# Johns Hopkins: U.S. Death Rate Remains NORMAL Despite COVID-19

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posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:07 AM

It's not 16%...because the population increased by 3 million people. Do you not understand basic math?

Death increase means nothing if population increase is ignored.

More people means more deaths overall.

What matters is the percentage of deaths.based on total number of people.

Which have not increased.
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posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:07 AM

originally posted by: dug88

Yes...which have not increased by any statistically significant amount based on total population over the last year.

You have started a separate thread which shows that deaths have dramatically increased even after population growth.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:09 AM

Death increase means nothing if population increase is ignored.

What was the population increase in 2019? Was it 16% lower than 2020? No? How much lower then?

What matters is the percentage of deaths.based on total number of people.
Okay.

with an increase of 15.9% compared with 2019, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population.

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posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:10 AM

originally posted by: dug88

Yes...which have not increased by any statistically significant amount based on total population over the last year. Which is what all the bull# we've endured is supposedly based on.

That can’t be true

cNn says there is a pandemic

Therefore: tHeRe’S a PaNdEmiC

I’m pretty sure if you don’t believe cNn pundits that means you’re racist or something so, there ya have it.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:11 AM

That can’t be true

You're right. It isn't.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:18 AM

I'm not a deep thinker, so putting 2+2 is easier for me than it is for the brainy types.

Forget the rocket science. Think human nature.

1. March 2020 - Congress passes a \$2.2 Trillion Covid assistance plan. \$120 Billion was set aside for medical personnel and medical facilities who treated Covid patients.

2. April 2020 - The CDC tells medical personnel and coroners that they can "guess" and "presume" a person died with Covid-19 in their system. That person is then tagged as a Covid-19 death, generating a Covid \$\$\$ payment for the facility.
The same for hospitalized patients who didn't die, if Covid-19 was listed as a condition in the patient's file.

The CDC Director (Dr. Redfield) told Congress in July 2020 that this "gouging" was occurring, but Congress didn't ask him what was being done to stop it.

Bottom Line: As Dr. Deborah Birx admitted in June of 2020, many Covid-19 deaths were fabricated. The actual number was quite a bit lower. Satan's assistant Dr. Fauci took Dr. Birx out of the public eye after she revealed the truth. None of the MSM outlets (but FoxNews) reported her bombshell reveal.

Some people at the top of the CDC made a lot of money from their medical friends, after enabling them to fabricate as many Covid-19 deaths as they wanted to.

I suspect some at the FDA are getting kickbacks from the lucrative vaccine contracts as well.

Both the CDC and FDA are divisions within the Health and Human Services Department. Joe Biden put a nutjob girly-man in a top position at HHS last month.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 01:34 AM

That person is then tagged as a Covid-19 death, generating a Covid \$\$\$ payment for the facility.
False.

As Dr. Deborah Birx admitted in June of 2020, many Covid-19 deaths were fabricated.
Also false.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 02:03 AM

sent pm to avoid thread drift.

(since the mail icon does not turn white anymore I hope this message is acceptable for Mods)

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 02:20 AM

originally posted by: carewemust

There was increase in Covid19-releated deaths and a decrease in accidental deaths.

More people under age 70 lived, instead of dying due to an accident outside the home. (Lockdowns saved these lives)

More older people with health issues died a few years sooner, due to Covid-19 pushing them over the cliff.

Pretty much this in a nutshell.

People are staying at home more, so there are fewer accidents. If you're not commuting then you can't get involved in a pileup on the freeway. If you're not walking to school you can't get hit by a bus on your way there, and if you're not out drinking then you're not going to end up a DUI statistic.

There are also fewer sports injuries because people are playing less sport, and fewer injuries on construction sites because there is less construction. Fewer people are swimming so fewer people are drowning.

This doesn't mean that Covid isn't killing people, it just means that some causes of death are being decreased.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 02:28 AM

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse That person is then tagged as a Covid-19 death, generating a Covid \$\$\$ payment for the facility.

That sounds plausible on paper, as we all know that some organizations will do whatever they can to maximise their income, but that narrative falls apart once you get outside of the US and into other countries where there is either little or no government support, or where there is a socialized system and the provider gets the support regardless of whether a person had covid or not.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 02:35 AM

Were it not for hospitals earning large chunks of money from Covid-19 "Cares Act" payments, many would have come close to bankruptcy...or gone bankrupt.

In June of last year Medical news publications were lamenting the loss of revenues due to lack of E.R. Injury visits and people putting off non-emergency surgeries, due to Covid-19 fear.

Then word started to spread about the Cares Act Golden Goose. The whining about loss of revenue vanished from the publications.

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posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 02:52 AM

originally posted by: Phage

So the OP is full of crap.
I agree.

You better look in the mirror to find someone full of crap whom always posts false data and misinfo 100% of the time.

The John Hopkins student and the PhD can access more data than is available. I know you always side with the liars, and the disinformation, but enough of your crap. The forum is already too full of your crap. Go crap somewhere else.

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posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 02:58 AM

originally posted by: Phage
Also false.

Like always, you lie...

...
"There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem," she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. "Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

"The intent is ... if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that," she added.
...

Birx says government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as 'COVID-19' deaths, regardless of cause

edit on 2-4-2021 by ElectricUniverse because: correct excerpt.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 03:05 AM

Phage is old now man...at one time he had some common sense...I think his fear of his own mortality has been overriding that...or maybe it's just senility.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 03:10 AM

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Phage
Also false.

Like always, you lie...

...
"There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem," she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. "Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

"The intent is ... if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that," she added.
...

Birx says government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as 'COVID-19' deaths, regardless of cause

I heard last week that Dr. Birx said in a recent interview, "Hundreds of Thousands died needlessly in America due to Trump Administration Incompetence."

Birx came to President Trump's rescue last year by explaining that he got the "Bleach destroying Covid-19" talking point from their task-force brainstorming session.

Here in 2021, Either someone has threatened Dr. Birx, or she's gone to the dark side (been bought).

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 05:28 AM

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Phage
Also false.

Like always, you lie...

...
"There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem," she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. "Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

"The intent is ... if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that," she added.
...

Birx says government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as 'COVID-19' deaths, regardless of cause

Dr. Michael Baden, a Fox News contributor, said it's reasonable to include the death of someone infected with the virus, who also had other health issues, in the COVID-19 body count.

"In the normal course, autopsies would then determine whether the person died of the effects of the COVID virus, whether the person had a brain tumor or brain hemorrhage for example that might be unrelated to it and what the relative significance of both the infection and the pre-existing disease is," Baden told Fox News.

However, the number of autopsies being performed could be low due to the danger of infection, he said.

"Then you will include in those numbers some people who did have a pre-existing condition that would have caused death anyway, but that's probably a small number," Baden said.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 05:30 AM

originally posted by: dug88

Phage is old now man...at one time he had some common sense...I think his fear of his own mortality has been overriding that...or maybe it's just senility.

You may want to check you own maths before accusing someone else of being senile.

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 05:53 AM

Problem spinning web of lies ... Hard to keep straight and many get caught up in them

oh my ... Math

Per CDC ..

Overdose deaths up
Gun deaths up
Traffic deaths up
Ageing population

Not to forget this nugget 1% of population lives in nursing homes

One-Third of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes

While 4 percent of the country’s cases have occurred in long-term care facilities, deaths related to Covid-19 in these facilities account for about 33 percent of the country’s pandemic fatalities.

And some Governors still aren't coming clean

As the World Turns World Population

Could it be true ? THINK

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posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 07:04 AM

Math aside, what was the cause for the increase, birth rates or just population growth in general?

If it was based on births alone, then wouldn't that 3 million be irrelevant?

posted on Apr, 2 2021 @ 07:43 AM

Looks like someone doesn’t know the difference between “population growth and population reduction” lulz

The fact you quote CDC as a trustworthy source, after they literally said to “assume” all deaths are COVID-19 and the fact they removed flu and pneumonia deaths from their site... (not to mention the trillion other disingenuous scams they’ve ran)

You’re on that high horse, but you seemed to have forgot the saddle.

To the OP, for anyone to admit they’ve been lied to for decades is hard to admit, especially when they’ve been programmed since early on. Lol
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