Patent #060606

a reply to: MrBuddy

Thank you for helping the community.
Have a happy Easter.

This was another thread that turned into "everyone against Phage"... Surprise!

This board would be # without Phage, and we all know it Even though we don't always agree with him, we still love him Just wanted to say.

Happy Easter ATS

I wish I could tell everyone that this thread was just an April 1st joke. Unfortunately it is all true. No need for April fools day, when every day is evermore as bizarre as the next.

a reply to: pslind69

Playing devils advocate for the sake of it, playing with words like this,... no, I'd call it trolling to escape boredom.

Btw Bates didnt speak about higher life standard of living (being fat, watching TV instead of making babies) In his mind Healthcare means 40 million abortions as in the US and being close to sterile from vaccines, drugs and nasty chemicals in water, food and everywhere else.

It's clear. This coincidence fits into puzzle. Kushner's 666 Fifth Avenue was no coincidence either. The liberal culture is so full of this crap. They are not hiding it. It's ridiculous and it's a religion. Mostly based on the Bible btw. Could he be even more honest without going to jail forever? The audience laughed. They got it. He wasnt joking tho. He did a terrific job with the Polio vaccine spreading Polio through Africa. I wouldnt take a sealed bottled water from him.

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand

Also, where was Bill quoted in this

"First, we've got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent."

Stating ANYTHING about population growth....

He is literally saying decrease population, by 10-15% using health care and vaccines.....

...how does one REDUCE population with a vaccine besides sterilization or death?

The most significant impact of vaccines has been to prevent morbidity and mortality from serious infections that disproportionately affect children. So although in the short term they increase populations, in the long term, together with other improvements in health care, they lead to lower birth rates.


As a result of vaccination healthy and economically successful populations have lower fertility rates and smaller families (Sah, 1991; Andre et al., 2008). With improved health and therefore life expectancy, there is a wider effect on families who may choose to invest more money in their future, for example to enhance their education or through savings (Jit et al., 2015). Overall, vaccine programs should be viewed as an investment in human capital, providing enduring impact on economies worldwide.

Impact of Vaccines; Health, Economic and Social Perspectives

Charlene M. C. Rodrigues and Stanley A. Plotkin

a reply to: EvilAxis

There's a good chance that vaccines do nothing except being toxic magical potion zombifying you from day one. What about the Amish community avoiding all vaccines? Do they breed like rabbits with every other child dying early? No. It's the clean water and nutrition

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ
Seems like living in a 1st world country with modern medicine available helps them, even if they stay away from the vaccines. It isn't just clean water and nutrition.

Study: Low vaccination rate in Amish children linked to hospitalization

Amish children were hospitalized for vaccine-preventable diseases (VPD) at significantly higher rates than other children, researchers found.

a reply to: daskakik

No big deal. Hospitalization doesnt equal death or even severe illness. Nothing close to Africa. You see that the vaccinated ones were hospitalized too? How's that possible? You should see twice as much - 100% or even 1000% more hospitalizations. They also live closer to the nature, avoiding chemicals, digging in dirt and dealing with animal waste everyday. So it's bogus. Where's their Polio and other stuff? Almost like it doesnt exist

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
No big deal. Hospitalization doesnt equal death or even severe illness. Nothing close to Africa. You see that the vaccinated ones were hospitalized too? How's that possible? You should see twice as much - 100% or even 1000% more hospitalizations. They also live closer to the nature, avoiding chemicals, digging in dirt and dealing with animal waste everyday. So it's bogus. Where's their Polio and other stuff? Almost like it doesnt exist

They also live more isolated and, yes, it doesn't equal death because they have modern medicine available to them, which was the main point.

They avoid it in the form of vaccines but use it in the form of hospitalizations.

ETA: They also don't have to breed like rabbits because the society they live in has a better standard of living. Comparing their situation, and their mindset, to that of people in 3rd world countries is apples and oranges.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
a reply to: EvilAxis

There's a good chance that vaccines do nothing except being toxic magical potion zombifying you from day one.

I must certainly be zombified then. I had several vaccines as a child, and more recently had a tetanus jab after being bitten by a cat. Ironically, she bit me because I was restraining her while she was vaccinated... Most recently, I had a Covid jab.

So I'm a perfect subject to test your hypothesis. No doubt the vaccines are somewhat toxic (like most medicine), but I'm still alive and well. But we need to define 'zombified'. Presumably we're not talking cannibalistic flesh lust? I've retained my largely vegetarian diet throughout. I often feel slightly zombified, but put this down to other factors. Certainly compared to most zombies I've seen in films, l'm reasonably high functioning. I'm still able to type things on the internet. Whether or not it's coherent, you will have to be the judge.

Which gets to the crux of the matter. If we're talking high functioning zombies, what test would prove to me or you that I'm not a zombie? If these vaccines are as sophisticated and devious as some suppose, a clear symptom would be arguing on the internet that vaccines are efficacious and safe. That would be part of the program, wouldn't it? And for this to work, it would make sense that I believe it.

Then again, if I believe something, I'm not really a zombie. I have an interior monologue and what seem to me like considered opinions. I believe that by and large vaccines do much more good than harm. I also believe I understand why some people don't think this.

So to return to your hypothesis, either:

1. You are wrong - vaccines do not zombify - and I have (as I suppose) a mind.
2. You are correct - I have no mind and am programed to spout pro-vaccine propaganda.
3. You are correct - and although I still have a mind, it has been infected with pro-vaccine propaganda from the vaccines.

Some alternative hypotheses:
I'm employed by the powers that be to spout pro-vaccine propaganda (possibly in exchange for not having any zombifying vaccines myself).
I am a pro-vaccine AI bot.

I can see that it looks bad that only one out of five of these possibilities does not implicate me as an agent of the evil pharmaceuticals. But I believe we commit a logical fallacy by letting that ratio influence the conclusion.

Of course, I still have an opinion in this matter, but am open to suggestions of how I could possibly prove to you (and myself) that I am not zombified and, by inference, vaccines don't zombify.

a reply to: EvilAxis

Well, a comparison to movie zombies is not fair. How'd you describe single, lazy dumb person absorbing hypnotic brainwashing from TV all day? Taking a pill for each mood swing. I was speaking about the rest of the chemo too. Yet the tens of vaccines child gets during the first week and month leaves a mark forever.
There's known side effects. There's stuff they deny like the boom of autism. And then there's rabbit holes.
You may know that national socialists in Germany found through medical experiments on humans that fluoride makes people docile, compliant and dumb. Several international studies to date have demonstrated that fluoride added to water is causing numerous health complications, including reduced IQ ratings among children. Iodine deficiency has similar effect. Combine the two and you rule over a dumb, weak bunch of sheep.
Then add thousands of chemicals in food, water, on crop, in the fabric of your clothes, in drugs, heavy metals, endocrine disruptors lowering your testosterone, nano-sized adjuvants in vaccines crossing the blood brain barrier. Once the aluminium makes it into brain it's there to stay. Western men are slowly approaching sterility.
It goes on and on. You obviously chose to ignore most of what's disturbing your blue pill happy ignorance state. Maybe it's a side effect too🙂 In fact, you have no idea how much better would your brain or genitals function without all of it. I had my childhood vaccine rape too btw. You dont know what's in there. Not even doctors do. You simply trust their word. Or you dont but you are too afraid to disobey. There's doctors and top scientists shaking head and warning us about these. Why is there jelly fish DNA, luciferase and other weird stuff and DNA? Why would they use various unclean things to grow it on like aborted fetuses, the oldest cancer cell culture etc? That's what they dont tell you even in the insert. It's a secret. There's stuff they dont tell anyone. I tried to dive into the basic science behind it. It looks legit to a layman. It also looks like a magic spell to me. You know, just like the witches used to cook potions from the weirdest stuff "Take goat lard and when the moon is new, add Datura, frog's ass and bat's ears to get a gel of oblivion"😊
Common vaccines, including those for chicken pox, hepatitis and rabies, are also propagated in cells originating from legally aborted human fetuses, according to the FDA. There were experiments with chemicals and possibly a vax able to turn off centers of spirituality in the brain. Depression was a cover as far as I remember. How'd you miss something you've never experienced then? Is it operational? I dont know. Do you? I'd rather take my chance being natural. Maybe some vaccines are ok but I dont have a lab to test it before taking. We must fight this big business. What used to be 10 vaccines is now 30,50. It's out of control. I believe it's a major tool of eugenics, money cow and a control tool.

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Respectfully..because I understand where you are coming from. I think that is just a cop out, for all our collective failing, social media, and the technology that surrounds it, I'm not anti tech, but it has changed us.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
Well, a comparison to movie zombies is not fair.

Seeing that zombie means walking corpse, the movie zombies are the best fit.

You would be the one taking liberties in how you are using it.

I had my childhood vaccine rape too btw.

And you are not a zombie, which pretty much debunks your claim.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

Well, a comparison to movie zombies is not fair. How'd you describe single, lazy dumb person absorbing hypnotic brainwashing from TV all day?

Bored... lost... demotivated... Was this colloquial use of the term 'zombified' what you had in mind? I haven't watched or owned a TV for years, preferring to avoid its low-informational content.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

Yet the tens of vaccines child gets during the first week and month leaves a mark forever.

They're supposed to have a lasting effect, otherwise they wouldn't work.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

There's known side effects.

As with all medicines. I worry more about unknown side effects, and the known diseases the vaccines prevent.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

There's stuff they deny like the boom of autism.

Vaccines have received more scrutiny that any other speculated cause of ASD, and the great majority of scientists, physicians, and public health researchers have come to the conclusion that there is no association between vaccines and autism.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

And then there's rabbit holes.
You may know that national socialists in Germany found through medical experiments on humans that fluoride makes people docile, compliant and dumb. Several international studies to date have demonstrated that fluoride added to water is causing numerous health complications, including reduced IQ ratings among children. Iodine deficiency has similar effect. Combine the two and you rule over a dumb, weak bunch of sheep.

This has little bearing on the subject of vaccines, beyond a general 'they're out to get me' mind set.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

Then add thousands of chemicals in food, water, on crop, in the fabric of your clothes, in drugs, heavy metals, endocrine disruptors lowering your testosterone, nano-sized adjuvants in vaccines crossing the blood brain barrier. Once the aluminium makes it into brain it's there to stay. Western men are slowly approaching sterility.
It goes on and on. You obviously chose to ignore most of what's disturbing your blue pill happy ignorance state.

On the contrary, I agree the modern world has brought us many ills (apart from the 'nano-sized adjuvants', which don't scare me), including some more harmful and pervasive than those you mentioned, like particulates and other pollutants from industry, air, sea and road traffic, and other man-made combustion. The tobacco, sugar and junk food industry have also been disastrous for public health. Then there's the indiscriminate and inappropriate use of antibiotics and opiates. Carbon dioxide is acidifying the sea which is awash with plastic and atmospheric radiation was raised by rampant nuclear bomb testing during the Cold War...

But again, none of this has much to do with vaccines.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

You dont know what's in there. Not even doctors do.

It's not a doctors' job to know what's in it, nor usually to administer it. The nurse probably doesn't know what's in it either.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

You simply trust their word.

To a large extent, yes. Without trust, life is difficult and hazardous. The crucial thing is determining who you can trust. I trust the nurse to put the needle in the right place and trust the maker of the vaccine to know what's in it. I would be ill qualified to judge, from the ingredients, whether it was safe or effective.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

There's doctors and top scientists shaking head and warning us about these.

Very few, and none that I'm aware of have made a credible case against the vaccines. There are also a bunch of patently unqualified anti-vax crackpots making absurd, unscientific and self-contradictory claims.

It appears the AstraZeneca vaccine may confer a very small risk of blood clots. I was aware of that when I opted to have it. I could have held out for a different jab, but the risk was small enough not to worry. After all, my leisure activities regularly entail much greater risks. Yours probably do too.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

Why is there jelly fish DNA, luciferase and other weird stuff and DNA? Why would they use various unclean things to grow it on like aborted fetuses, the oldest cancer cell culture etc? That's what they dont tell you even in the insert. It's a secret. There's stuff they dont tell anyone.

I don't know what to make of that word salad. Why is there jellyfish DNA? Jellyfish couldn’t do without it. Luciferase? There is no luciferase in the vaccines, but why would it worry you if there was? Because Satan cleans his teeth with it?

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

I'd rather take my chance being natural.

And I'd rather use modern medicine when appropriate. My ancestors took their chances being natural. They had no choice, on average their lives were shorter, and they died of diseases that are now preventable or treatable.

a reply to: EvilAxis

You sound like a liberal woman. As if being gullible is a virtue. Getting your daily dose of MSM programming makes you vaccinated against the truth. They make you feel like a member of a "team sane" as long as you live forehead deep in their well constructed lies.

To a large extent, yes. Without trust, life is difficult and hazardous.

Yes, if you are a dog.

AFAIK You are not getting a simple harmless spike protein but a synthetic mRNA sequence programming your cells like a virus.
There were independent researchers analysing it as a computer code and they found weird stuff, parts of animal genomes... I didnt have time to dive deep into it to school you and look nerdy, or a need to because I'll never take that #. You one the other hand should because not only you take it but you advertise it to others as safe when you have actually no idea but trust

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Trueman


I also don't think unicorns exist.

They exist in our hearts.

🦄😒

I think you'll find that is anatomically impossible.

What about microscopic or even quantum unicorns?

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ
You are placing the same kind of trust in the people that told you independent researchers analyzed it and what they said they found.

Just another case of pot meet kettle.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

You sound like a liberal woman.

I'm not, but don't object if it helps to picture me that way.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

As if being gullible is a virtue.

Which, of course, is how I picture you.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

Yes, if you are a dog.

Pets have little choice who they trust. As highly social animals, we evolved big brains so that we can work out which other humans to trust. Our survival and ability to procreate has often depended upon getting this right. A strategy of not trusting anyone is not intelligent or adaptive, and as daskakik said, you clearly do trust the scaremongerers you've been listening to.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

AFAIK You are not getting a simple harmless spike protein but a synthetic mRNA sequence programming your cells like a virus.

If you just injected the spike protein, there would minimal immune response. So yes, some of the latest vaccines use synthetic mRNA that is used by your immune cells to replicate the spike protein in your body. Other immune cells start making antibodies and the mRNA and spike proteins are destroyed. Indeed, this is 'like a virus', but it is more refined, effective and adaptable than old school vaccines which are viruses (often attenuated).

The trouble is, As Far As You Know, when it comes to vaccines, is not far enough to know when you're being bamboozled by anti-scientific quackery, as evidenced by some of the confusion in your previous post.

Again, what is it about jellyfish DNA and luciferase (that's used to test, but not as an ingredient of vaccines) that worries you?

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ

There were independent researchers analysing it as a computer code and they found weird stuff, parts of animal genomes...

Could you at least name the 'independent researchers'. They sound fascinating...

a reply to: EvilAxis

True, I'm guilty of trusting those people without being able to verify their work.
I trust them more than the other group with bad record and because it's closer to my own understanding. It's good enough to take a restrained stance which is after all our natural state.