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originally posted by: oloufo
ask some heavy guy to push his knee with all his strength on your neck. for 8 minutes. afterwards i would be interested in your experience report, if you can do that from heaven.
the man died because the officer did exactly that. whether his heart was already weak or he was under drugs makes no difference, i think. and as far as i know, this 'method' is officially forbidden. someone died and the question is why? in the end, the court will decide.
originally posted by: oloufo
i agree with you that the officer sometimes puts less pressure on floyds knee. but i'm not a doctor. surely floyd was also panicking and scared. you can't seriously believe that his death had nothing to do with this treatment?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: LSU2018
Witness is saying she saw Chauvin put his knee on Flyod's neck so hard that Chauvin's other foot came off the ground, lol. Wow.
But there was no tissue damage to his neck, no bruises etc, so what does that say?
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Dude was saying he can't breathe the whole time....do you see the irony in that? If you don't then you should think harder. I bolded the important part so you have a small hint.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Either way
The officer has THOUSANDS of arrests under his belt and ZERO accusations of racism or discrimination
But now, ALL OF A SUDDEN, he decides “I’m a racist now, even though my wife and my partner are people of color”
And then he intentionally kills a violent criminal (knowing cameras are on him too no less) for no other reason than.........you guessed it......rAciSm
Anyone who believes that crap is a fool
This is most definitely NOT a racial issue
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: oloufo
i agree with you that the officer sometimes puts less pressure on floyds knee. but i'm not a doctor. surely floyd was also panicking and scared. you can't seriously believe that his death had nothing to do with this treatment?
How much of what happen is on Floyd? He did everything wrong to include massive drugs of different types. Then in the end we want to blame his death on a knee? Floyd could have done 100 things differently and that knee would never had been there.
Floyd was far from non-violent and non-threatening, and they didn't try to kill him, and we do not even know what effect the subdue move added to his death. Maybe it was because he was on his chest mostly. Didn't that happen before where a cop has someone on their chest and they died by their own weight?
originally posted by: BrokenCircles
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Dude was saying he can't breathe the whole time....do you see the irony in that? If you don't then you should think harder. I bolded the important part so you have a small hint.
He wasn't just saying it. I think the last witness actually said he was yelling that he couldn't breathe.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Xtrozero
Floyd was far from non-violent and non-threatening, and they didn't try to kill him, and we do not even know what effect the subdue move added to his death. Maybe it was because he was on his chest mostly. Didn't that happen before where a cop has someone on their chest and they died by their own weight?
No argument here about Floyd. But I wasn't speaking to the Floyd case specifically when I made that point.
My point is that the same laws and regs and training that will acquit Chauvin would likewise acquit the officer (?) who shot Ashli Babbitt. Just like the officer who shot Danny Shaver was acquitted.
It does not matter what someone does or does not do. It only matters what the officer "believes" or "fears" that person "might" do.