Roman Catholicism, a seperate demonination of Christianity, or is it an apostate church? ROMAN Catholicism started in the 200’s AD when the Bishop
of Rome began to change ORIGINAL church doctrine.
But wait …..didn’t the church start earlier? YES MUCH EARLIER
Within the thread you will find references to many initial ROMAN Catholic “Popes” who refused to follow the ancient Catholic church bylaws and
teachings that were set by the apostles, the church elders in Jerusalem which included the seventy Christ sent out two by two.
According to the Apostles and the church leaders in the first century (known as ancient church fathers) taught we must all obey the Scriptures and no
one has a right to change the teaching of the bible. If anyone does, even if he leads a large church they must be ignored.
NOTE: This includes dates and times of events!
One of the main false teachings that set Rome apart was the idea that Peter was the first pope, or bishop of Rome. One of the church fathers,
Eusebius, reveals a list of the popes, showing first pope was Linus and the Roman Catholic Church agrees, yet they put Peter as the first pope before
Linus. (Roman Catholic doctrine). Let’s see what the ancient church fathers said and how Peter was never thought of a bishop of Rome or pope.
EUSEBIUS, AD 325: Ecclesiastical History Vol. 3.2
After the martyrdom of Paul and Peter, Linus was the first to receive the episcopate of the church of Rome.
IRENAEUS, AD 177: Against Heresies Vol. 3.3.3
The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the church, committed into the hands of Linus, the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus,
Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy, to him succeeded Anacletus, and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted
EUSEBIUS, AD 325: Ecclesiastical 3.13
After Vespasian had reigned ten years, Titus, his son, succeeded him. In the second year of his reign, Linus, who had been bishop of the church of
Rome for twelve years, delivered his office to Anencletus.
In the first two centuries, the head of the church was called a bishop. In the second century the term pope began to be used to refer to the leader of
a patriarchate. There were FIVE cities that were patriarchates: Rome, Jerusalem, Alexandria, Antioch and Constantinople. Each patriarchate was
responsible for planting churches in its area. Rome’s jurisdiction was Europe, while Alexandria’s was Africa. In the correspondence between
Cyprian of Africa and the bishops of Rome referred to each other as pope because they all headed their own patriarchate. So….. we have Pope Cyprian
of Africa corresponding with Pope Stephen of Rome. After the fall of the other patriarchates, the only pope left was the one in Rome.
The idea of papal authority is this: Peter was the first pope and Jesus said He would build His church on Peter alone and give him the keys to the
kingdom. So if Peter alone could bind and loose and the gates of hell could not prevail against Rome, then the bishop of Rome must be infallible.
Hence all churches must obey the pope.
What Christ meant when telling Peter “He would build His church on Peter alone and give him the keys to the kingdom.” It is built upon Peter’s
confession as to who Jesus was… the Christ (The Messiah)
Peter confessed that Jesus is the Christ and therefore the Son of God. Jesus says on this truth I will build my church. Roman Catholic dogma states
Jesus was saying HIS church would be built on Peter’s authority, not on his confession. By this they (catholics) mean Peter and his successors would
be in charge of the whole church. In fact, Jesus gave the power of binding and loosing to all twelve apostles whenever two or more agreed in prayer.
This did NOT apply to Peter alone.
The words of Christ:
“Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven. Again I say unto you, That if TWO of you shall agree on as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my father which
is in heaven.”
And Peter answered and said, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, blessed art thou
Simon Barjona; for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter and
upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Then he charged his disciples they should tell no man that he was
Jesus the Christ. Matthew 16:16-20
The ancient church fathers (prior to 200AD) stated that the “ROCK” Jesus will build his church on was not on Peter, but the STATEMENT OF FAITH
that Jesus is the Messiah.
ORIGEN, AD 240: Commentary on Matthew 16
If you should think that the whole church was built by God ONLY on that one, PETER, what will you say to John or each of the apostles?
Augustime, 378 AD – Retractationes
I have somewhere said, concerning the apostle Peter, that the Church was founded on him, as a petra, or rock, but I know that I have since very often
explained that our Lord meant Peter’s CONFESSION of him.
Similar statements were made by St. Hilary, bishop of Poitiers in his second book on the Trinity, St. Chrysostom in his 53rd Homily on St. Matthew and
Tertullian, 212 AD: On Modesty 21
Peter said, “Why are you tempting the Lord, concerning the imposition of a yoke that neither we nor our fathers were able to bear? This proclamation
both “loosed” those parts of the law that were ababdoned and bound those that were retained. Hence the power of binding and loosing given to Peter
had NOTHING to do with the moral sins of believers.
ORIGEN, 230 AD: Commentary on Matthew 12.11
The promise of the keys to the kingdom was given NOT to Peter alone, but to all the disciples of the church.
NOTE: The “church” referenced here is not the Roman Catholic Church. The “church” are those believers who are bound under the guidance of the
ORIGINAL Catholic Church , (Notice there is no Roman in front of Catholic) in Jerusalem.
NOTE: Also I use commentaries ONLY from those ancient (original apostles and their known disciples) sorry no 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th or 20th century
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