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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phage
We're in the minority in that we actually research and analyse the data from multiple sources in order to make conclusions regarding the severity of the virus, efficacy of treatment and reliability of the science.
Unfortunately the majority of people will simply see our registered deaths from Covid as 127,000 in the UK. This figure is completely outrageous and far from a true reflection or indication of the situation. Regardless of the cause of death we report ALL deaths within 28 days of a positive test as Covid.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot
BS.
Registering ALL deaths that happen within 28 days from a positive Covid test is not an accurate reflection of how many of these deaths were a direct result of Covid. To suggest this would result in under-reporting is ridiculous. Your confirmation bias has been demonstrated time and time again on this subject. There's no consideration for actual cause of death, if you've tested positive it's added to the figures regardless of clear and obvious suicide, overdose, murder, accident etc.
The lockdown will have caused many more of these other types of deaths which will be hidden behind the virus.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot
When did i mention or reference the ONS data at any point? I was using the Public Health England measurement.
If you think 135k people died directly due to Covid over the last year then you're entitled to that opinion, it could well be a contributing factor in a lot of those deaths.
"Number of deaths of people whose death certificate mentioned COVID-19 as one of the causes. The data are published weekly by the ONS, NRS and NISRA and there is a lag in reporting of at least 11 days because the data are based on death registrations."
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot
You don't think its strange that the number of deaths registered with Covid as the cause is higher than the number of people who've died within 28 days of a positive test? When you consider all hospital and care home patients are tested regularly i think that in itself tells a story.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot
The BS is suggesting the figures are under reported. The healthcare industry is one of the few with everything to gain from inflation of the figures, it also happens to be the industry responsible for those very numbers.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot
Total Deaths 2020: 695,800
Covid Deaths 2020: 135,000
That means deaths from other causes in the UK in 2020 totalled roughly 560,000 which is way below the 10 year average.
Now i'm sold on lockdown, locking us all up clearly increases quality and length of life and decreases all other causes of death despite the degradation of healthcare and society. I wonder what happened to all those extra suicide and overdoses etc. Not to mention the DNR orders issued during the early stages of the pandemic and the massive reduction in surgeries. Clearly these things all stop death contrary to what logic tells us.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot
Funding, increase budgets, upgraded equipment, extra staff, beds, pay rises etc etc.
Was it a 4% rise the nurses in Scotland received this year?