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originally posted by: Chadwickus
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: TheResidentAlien
Here’s a page with the list broken down...
www.pagadiandiocese.org...
And this is the actual database page..
www.adrreports.eu...
And a page on understanding reports
www.pagadiandiocese.org...
This stands out:
The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, in other words, effects that have been observed following administration of, or treatment with, a medicine. However, these suspected side effects may not be related to or caused by the medicine.
You do know the definition of the word "may" , correct ?
No ?
Here ya go :
may :
1. expressing possibility.
Defs by Google.
Yes.
That’s why I’m pointing it out.
Maybe you should mention it to the OP, and perhaps Alex Jones.
originally posted by: TheResidentAlien
a reply to: Klassified
www.adrreports.eu... appears to me to be fictional - no contact details available. No, I do not believe for one second It official.
The ONLY 100% legitimate website within any of the links provided is www.ema.europa.eu... This is actually a EU website.
And the only reason its linked is because one of the other websites claims to be operated by them (to give it credibility?):
"This website was launched by the European Medicines Agency in 2012 to provide public access to reports of suspected side effects (also known as suspected adverse drug reactions). These reports are submitted electronically to EudraVigilance by national medicines regulatory authorities and by pharmaceutical companies that hold marketing authorisations (licences) for the medicines."
The European Medicines Agency is also the only site that does NOT have any of this supposed data.
The fact is, that It's unfortunately an extremely trivial task to build any number of websites that claim to be owned or operated or set-up by a large organization. And it's exactly why people keep falling for Phishing Scams and Fake news.
I call bull***t when the three or four sites are linked together and the ONLY actual legitimate one among them has no information pertaining to the matter at hand. Pair that with the fact that none of the others have any proper contact information. And draw your own conclusions.
A simple phone call to the European Medicines Agency would probably clear up the misinformation and authenticity of the provided links.
originally posted by: 2Faced
Look, OP, as much as I find Phage annoying, specially because he’s right so often it’s damn irritating, he often robs people of their fantasies and illusions like a criminal, and he prevents many unsubstantiated claims from taking flight, with his damned heavy insights. But by putting the info on a “forum” (a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged) you kinda invite others to make comments and ask questions.
Sure, he’s a bit persistent, and if resisted, or he doesn’t get what he wants, he doesn’t shy away from being a frustrated grammar nazi, or using Carren-commenting on unrelated matters like the shape and color of your avatar, as if to say: “if I can’t debate you, i’ll point out some other “flaw” to get a response I can live with”, it is almost like he’s a flawed human being like the rest of us.
Peace!
originally posted by: panoz77
So unlike how they report COVID deaths, i.e. any death of a person who is suspected to have COVID or had a positive test for COVID is definitely counted as a COVID death.
But how do they report deaths that follow the vaccination? If a person dies hours, days or weeks following the "vaccination", is it counted as a "vaccination death"? HELL NO!
www.cdc.gov...
"FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.
Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.
CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.
To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.
CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines."
Marvin Hagler died days after being vaccinated, he was in good health, but the vaccine TOTALLY had nothing to do with it.
Hank Aaron died days after being vaccinated, but the vaccine TOTALLY had nothing to do with his death.
www.newsweek.com...
Here is the spin "There are hundreds of reports of people having died after getting a COVID vaccine, but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine was the cause."
Nothing to see here.
Not really. It looks like 2050 died after receiving the vaccine. Not the same thing at all.
Looks like 2050 people have died in the USA from the vaccines so far.
While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I've had just about everyone i know tell me they experienced symptoms from the vaccine, some severe. Yet to meet a single person who's had ANY symptoms from Covid.
I would not agree. It's just as possible that the numbers are understated (the number of infections most certainly is). They provide an indication of the extent of the infection. They cannot be considered to be absolutely accurate.
Would you agree that the figures for Covid deaths the media like to report are also artificially inflated?
Here the cause of death is determined by a physician or coroner. If there was a positive COVID test it is noted on the death certificate as such. If COVID is determined to have been the cause of death, that is stated. If the cause of death was traumatic injury, that is stated.
Not sure how the statistics are presented over in the states but here the CFR is calculated on any death within 28 days of a positive test irrespective of comorbidity or circumstance.
Not here it isn't. But the positive test would be noted.
If you test positive then fall in the shower and crack your skull resulting in death its registered as an official Covid death.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: vonclod
I had no symptoms after my first. Not even a sore arm.
A review of how deaths from coronavirus are counted in England has reduced the UK death toll by more than 5,000, to 41,329, the government has announced.
The recalculation is based on a new definition of who has died from Covid.
Previously, people in England who died at any point following a positive test, regardless of cause, were counted in the figures.
But there will now be a cut-off of 28 days, providing a more accurate picture of the epidemic.
This brings England's measure in line with the other UK nations.