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EU Reports 3,964 Killed by Covid Vaccines, 162,610 Injured

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posted on Mar, 28 2021 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: TheResidentAlien

Here’s a page with the list broken down...

www.pagadiandiocese.org...

And this is the actual database page..

www.adrreports.eu...

And a page on understanding reports

www.pagadiandiocese.org...

This stands out:


The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, in other words, effects that have been observed following administration of, or treatment with, a medicine. However, these suspected side effects may not be related to or caused by the medicine.




You do know the definition of the word "may" , correct ?
No ?
Here ya go :

may :

1. expressing possibility.


Defs by Google.


Yes.

That’s why I’m pointing it out.

Maybe you should mention it to the OP, and perhaps Alex Jones.

But what comes after may ?
May not .



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 02:07 AM
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a reply to: Klassified

www.adrreports.eu... appears to me to be fictional - no contact details available. No, I do not believe for one second It official.

The ONLY 100% legitimate website within any of the links provided is www.ema.europa.eu... This is actually a EU website.

And the only reason its linked is because one of the other websites claims to be operated by them (to give it credibility?):

"This website was launched by the European Medicines Agency in 2012 to provide public access to reports of suspected side effects (also known as suspected adverse drug reactions). These reports are submitted electronically to EudraVigilance by national medicines regulatory authorities and by pharmaceutical companies that hold marketing authorisations (licences) for the medicines."

The European Medicines Agency is also the only site that does NOT have any of this supposed data.

The fact is, that It's unfortunately an extremely trivial task to build any number of websites that claim to be owned or operated or set-up by a large organization. And it's exactly why people keep falling for Phishing Scams and Fake news.

I call bull***t when the three or four sites are linked together and the ONLY actual legitimate one among them has no information pertaining to the matter at hand. Pair that with the fact that none of the others have any proper contact information. And draw your own conclusions.

A simple phone call to the European Medicines Agency would probably clear up the misinformation and authenticity of the provided links.
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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 02:20 AM
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Someone posted a link to an article quoting the same 'report' in this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I made this post in response.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Apparently we are supposed to believe that these vaccines cause everything from the runs, mental and social problems, urinary infections, chest pains, heart attacks, strokes, cramps, muscle problems, toe nail infections, circulation problems blah blah blah.
Basically the list covers more or less every ailment found in a medical journal.
And they kill people, at an 'alarming' rate.

I know what I think of this 'report'.

I'll let others make their own minds up.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: TheResidentAlien
a reply to: Klassified

www.adrreports.eu... appears to me to be fictional - no contact details available. No, I do not believe for one second It official.

The ONLY 100% legitimate website within any of the links provided is www.ema.europa.eu... This is actually a EU website.

And the only reason its linked is because one of the other websites claims to be operated by them (to give it credibility?):

"This website was launched by the European Medicines Agency in 2012 to provide public access to reports of suspected side effects (also known as suspected adverse drug reactions). These reports are submitted electronically to EudraVigilance by national medicines regulatory authorities and by pharmaceutical companies that hold marketing authorisations (licences) for the medicines."

The European Medicines Agency is also the only site that does NOT have any of this supposed data.

The fact is, that It's unfortunately an extremely trivial task to build any number of websites that claim to be owned or operated or set-up by a large organization. And it's exactly why people keep falling for Phishing Scams and Fake news.

I call bull***t when the three or four sites are linked together and the ONLY actual legitimate one among them has no information pertaining to the matter at hand. Pair that with the fact that none of the others have any proper contact information. And draw your own conclusions.

A simple phone call to the European Medicines Agency would probably clear up the misinformation and authenticity of the provided links.

Thank you for this bit of detective work. This is part and parcel of what ATS is about. I think it merits further investigation.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: 2Faced
Look, OP, as much as I find Phage annoying, specially because he’s right so often it’s damn irritating, he often robs people of their fantasies and illusions like a criminal, and he prevents many unsubstantiated claims from taking flight, with his damned heavy insights. But by putting the info on a “forum” (a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged) you kinda invite others to make comments and ask questions.

Sure, he’s a bit persistent, and if resisted, or he doesn’t get what he wants, he doesn’t shy away from being a frustrated grammar nazi, or using Carren-commenting on unrelated matters like the shape and color of your avatar, as if to say: “if I can’t debate you, i’ll point out some other “flaw” to get a response I can live with”, it is almost like he’s a flawed human being like the rest of us.

Peace!



Heavy insights? Not really. He’s just pretty good with google and often just posts links himself. Rarely does he ever come up with anything constructive in his posts, just acts like a petulant child whenever anyone tries to challenge him. It’s obvious what Phage’s role is on ATS.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 04:26 PM
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This is why Alex Jones is amazing at being controlled opposition. Soon as OP mentioned his name people dismissed the information as false because his name is attached.
People are dying and I'm not basing this off Confrolled Opposition Puppet Alex Jones. I'm basing this off people's first hand accounts about family members either dying or getting injured after the jab. You will find news reports of no autopsy being performed on a person who died after the jab. You have to ask yourself why they deny an autopsy.
There's the VAERS database but people will dismiss that as false too since it's been "fact checked" for us.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: panoz77
So unlike how they report COVID deaths, i.e. any death of a person who is suspected to have COVID or had a positive test for COVID is definitely counted as a COVID death.

But how do they report deaths that follow the vaccination? If a person dies hours, days or weeks following the "vaccination", is it counted as a "vaccination death"? HELL NO!

www.cdc.gov...

"FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.
Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.
CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.
To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.
CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines."

Marvin Hagler died days after being vaccinated, he was in good health, but the vaccine TOTALLY had nothing to do with it.

Hank Aaron died days after being vaccinated, but the vaccine TOTALLY had nothing to do with his death.

www.newsweek.com...
Here is the spin "There are hundreds of reports of people having died after getting a COVID vaccine, but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine was the cause."

Nothing to see here.


When it comes to The Rona: Every death counts!
When it comes to the vaccine: Well maybe they were supposed to die anyway, it was just there turn to go and just because it happened right after the vaccine doesn't mean they are in any way related....please take it



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: DarkestConspiracyMoon

I've had just about everyone i know tell me they experienced symptoms from the vaccine, some severe. Yet to meet a single person who's had ANY symptoms from Covid.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:02 PM
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So this software developer put together this cool
Website below that pulls all the data for us so we don’t have to comb through 800000 rows and columns from Excel from a confusing ass fed HHS website. Anyone who has Worked in IT before and for the government or a government contractor knows how much the Feds LOVE Excel. Half the US government still uses Excel for everything.

Here is the cool site that this developer made where you can read about every death and adverse affect fir the past 4 months in the USA from the vaccine:

www.openvaers.com...

Here is the site where the original data comes from:

vaers.hhs.gov...

Here is a description of what VAERS is:

“ Established in 1990, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national early warning system to detect possible safety problems in U.S.-licensed vaccines. VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of adverse events (possible side effects) after a person has received a vaccination. Anyone can report an adverse event to VAERS. Healthcare professionals are required to report certain adverse events and vaccine manufacturers are required to report all adverse events that come to their attention.”

Looks like 2050 people have died in the USA from the vaccines so far.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: Brassmonkey

Looks like 2050 people have died in the USA from the vaccines so far.
Not really. It looks like 2050 died after receiving the vaccine. Not the same thing at all.

Your source:


While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.


Sometimes the phone rings as I'm stepping into the shower. Did stepping into the shower make the phone ring?

In any case, 143 million doses have been administered. That number is 0.001% of that. Not significant. Certainly not an indication of cause and effect.
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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: DarkestConspiracyMoon

I've had just about everyone i know tell me they experienced symptoms from the vaccine, some severe. Yet to meet a single person who's had ANY symptoms from Covid.

My mom was tired for a day..does that count?



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

I had no symptoms after my first. Not even a sore arm.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Would you agree that the figures for Covid deaths the media like to report are also artificially inflated?

Dying with Covid and dying from it are two different things.

Not sure how the statistics are presented over in the states but here the CFR is calculated on any death within 28 days of a positive test irrespective of comorbidity or circumstance.

If you test positive then fall in the shower and crack your skull resulting in death its registered as an official Covid death.

Does this seem consistent and balanced to you? Works both ways.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:56 PM
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a reply to: Grenade




Would you agree that the figures for Covid deaths the media like to report are also artificially inflated?
I would not agree. It's just as possible that the numbers are understated (the number of infections most certainly is). They provide an indication of the extent of the infection. They cannot be considered to be absolutely accurate.



Not sure how the statistics are presented over in the states but here the CFR is calculated on any death within 28 days of a positive test irrespective of comorbidity or circumstance.
Here the cause of death is determined by a physician or coroner. If there was a positive COVID test it is noted on the death certificate as such. If COVID is determined to have been the cause of death, that is stated. If the cause of death was traumatic injury, that is stated.


If you test positive then fall in the shower and crack your skull resulting in death its registered as an official Covid death.
Not here it isn't. But the positive test would be noted.
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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: vonclod

I had no symptoms after my first. Not even a sore arm.

Good!

My mom received her 1st shot of Moderna, 3 weeks ago, with no issues other that tired for a day, she is 74.

Here in British Columbia, they announced today, with the AstraZeneca vaccine, they don't want it used in people younger than 55, a week or two previous, they didn't want it used on people over 65. It's a weird flip flop. I'm sure an overabundance of caution.

We have not been doing great, between 600-900 infections daily, really ramped up about 10 days ago.
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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Do you think listing our mortality ratio based on this information is disingenuous? I can't see any other reason for it other than to cause fear, panic and to push vaccination.

Quoting statistics on the basis of any death within 28 days of a positive test irrespective of circumstance makes me highly suspicious of the data and agenda.



posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: Grenade

I don't see a lot of talk about CFR except from those who would minimize the impact of the pandemic.

I don't think accurate CFR can be determined since the true number of infections cannot be determined. I also think that concentrating on the CFR is a distraction. What matters is keeping hospitalizations under control, a bonus of doing that is that deaths are also controlled.
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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: Phage

We're in the minority in that we actually research and analyse the data from multiple sources in order to make conclusions regarding the severity of the virus, efficacy of treatment and reliability of the science.

Unfortunately the majority of people will simply see our registered deaths from Covid as 127,000 in the UK. This figure is completely outrageous and far from a true reflection or indication of the situation. Regardless of the cause of death we report ALL deaths within 28 days of a positive test as Covid.


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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Grenade

Seems to be an improvement over the previous method.

A review of how deaths from coronavirus are counted in England has reduced the UK death toll by more than 5,000, to 41,329, the government has announced.

The recalculation is based on a new definition of who has died from Covid.

Previously, people in England who died at any point following a positive test, regardless of cause, were counted in the figures.

But there will now be a cut-off of 28 days, providing a more accurate picture of the epidemic.

This brings England's measure in line with the other UK nations.

www.bbc.com...

No deaths today in London. That's encouraging.
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posted on Mar, 29 2021 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Indeed, still hardly an accurate indicator or genuine reflection of the actual death toll.




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