Former Intelligence Chief: 'Quite a few more' UFOs Detected Than Public Knows

Hey, a good old fashioned UFO thread.

How much you want to bet they "classify" everything good or just don't release it at all now that Trump is gone.



www.washingtonexaminer.com...

And when we talk about sightings, we are talking about objects that have seen by Navy or Air Force pilots, or have been picked up by satellite imagery that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain. Movements that are hard to replicate that we don’t have the technology for. Or traveling at speeds that exceed the sound barrier without a sonic boom."

The disclosure is expected to happen sometime between now and June 1, according to Bartiromo.

The panel's directive stipulates the report must identify, among other things, any threats posed by unidentified aerial phenomena and whether they may be attributed to foreign adversaries. "The report shall be submitted in unclassified form, but may include a classified annex," the committee wrote.

I don't think it has anything at all to do with Trump, who wasn't particularly interested in the topic. This is just more of the same alluding to the report due in June. Anyone who has at all paid attention to this topic knows there are many more sightings and a great deal more information. Here is a government that very likely has retrieved crashed saucers, attempted to back-engineer them and may even have had dealings with the occupants (I don't know for sure, of course.) and they will come out and say, "Yeah, we've had a few more sightings that we've talked about. There, that's your Disclosure." That's my suspicion of how this is going to go down. Nothing to see here, folks. Please move along.

originally posted by: schuyler
I don't think it has anything at all to do with Trump, who wasn't particularly interested in the topic. This is just more of the same alluding to the report due in June. Anyone who has at all paid attention to this topic knows there are many more sightings and a great deal more information. Here is a government that very likely has retrieved crashed saucers, attempted to back-engineer them and may even have had dealings with the occupants (I don't know for sure, of course.) and they will come out and say, "Yeah, we've had a few more sightings that we've talked about. There, that's your Disclosure." That's my suspicion of how this is going to go down. Nothing to see here, folks. Please move along.

I tend to agree, the US and Russia have likely had the whole enchilada and we continue to get spoon-fed baby-sized bites. they likely throw out crumbs like this as misdirection and subterfuge. While thinking our governments isn't necessarily evil, I believe they lie to the public all the time about a lot of things, especially UFO's

Considering the us and Russia have been studying the phenomena for at least 70 years there's probably tons of evidence that the public has not seen.

UFO’s that ‘crash’ on earth do not speak to me of super advanced aliens. The whole thing suggests to me that we are dealing with something likely only a few thousand years more advanced, if that. Certainly advanced enough that we struggle with their technology.

Unless physics is wrong and Einstein mistaken then I simply cannot see how it is possible to achieve faster than light travel. Without it the distances are too great to navigate in any reasonable time span, and we seem inundated with UFO’s/UAP’s. So they’re coming from somewhere.

Faster than sound but no sonic boom suggests they move within their own generated field. Explains a lot. If you have a separate field generated by your craft are you still bound by physics as we know it?

I think we are dealing with either the remnants of a precursor race or something similar bound within this solar system. I just cannot see aliens from across the galaxy turning up here and their probes or craft just slamming in to the ground due to any sort of malfunction.

a reply to: ARM1968

I think we are dealing with either the remnants of a precursor race or something similar bound within this solar system.

I think we're talking about people who see things and they don't know what they are.
It's a common phenomenon, not exclusive to military personnel.

Videos from the Navy were released last year through the Freedom of Information Act that showed UFOs moving at incredible speeds and performing seemingly impossible aerial maneuvers.

Except the videos in question showed no such thing.

a reply to: Phage

Exactly.

We are told they displayed anomalous manoeuvres, however the video snippets we were shown, display none of the 5 observables.
Take a video of a balloon using the same equipment, same distance, same size, and I don’t think we will see much difference between the two.

originally posted by: ARM1968
Unless physics is wrong and Einstein mistaken then I simply cannot see how it is possible to achieve faster than light travel.

Einstein was probably one of them.


TCB

If one bothers to really explore the evidence that has been amassed by careful, credible people for over 70 years from every country and every kind of observer in the many thousands of instances, adding the extreme measures by authorities who have not only confiscated detailed photos and film and reportedly threatened both witnesses and people looking into it and include the records that escaped suppression along with reports of landings of seeming mechanical craft that leave traces and people reportedly getting taken and the retrieved materials that have the wrong isotope counts for normal local materials, then it becomes very evident that not only do they exist in some manner and are, in fact, relatively common but certain credible official witnesses have acknowledged that they're commonly seen and detected on radars entering the atmosphere at tens of thousands of miles per hour since the 1950's ... but now more people are taking notice because the news isn't officially laughing anymore.

And to the "they're all balloons" crowd ... I suppose they could be if we'd developed trans atmospheric super sonic balloons back in the Korean war era.

originally posted by: Baddogma

And to the "they're all balloons" crowd ... I suppose they could be if we'd developed trans atmospheric super sonic balloons back in the Korean war era.

The objects in the video were not necessarily moving at supersonic speeds.

I posted this video (below) before in another thread about the tic tac video, but it gives an example of how something called "video parallax" can make a mundane object appear to be moving fast against a background.

Video parallax results when a moving camera zooms into, and locks onto, a foreground object (such as the head of the statue in the video below) with a background farther behind it. This creates a false sensation that the foreground object is moving quickly against the background, when in reality the object might be moving more slowly than it appears to be, or even not moving at all.

Watch between the :15 to :30 to see a great example of the video parallax effect. The head of the statue at the :17 mark and the people on the stairs/platform at the :25 mark seem to really be zooming past the background:

In the tic tac video, the moving camera on the plane was zoomed into the object in question with a parallax motion of the sea and sky in the far background, making the object appear to be fast moving. Add the gimbal movement of the camera and the changes from one camera type to the next, and that explains much of what was seen in those videos.

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: ARM1968
Unless physics is wrong and Einstein mistaken then I simply cannot see how it is possible to achieve faster than light travel.

Einstein was probably one of them.


TCB

I see what you did there

Regardless of what you think might come out in the coming report, the tone of government officials does seem to have changed a bit lately.

From OPs article:

Ratcliffe isn't the only former member of the U.S. intelligence community to speak out about UFOs in recent months.

Former CIA Director John Brennan said on a podcast with U.S. economist Tyler Cowen in December that the videos from Navy pilots "are quite eyebrow-raising when you look at them."


Brennan also said he thinks "some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life."

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

The objects in the video were not necessarily moving at supersonic speeds.

Yes, good work and such is appreciated.

Forgive my slight exasperation/sarcasm over a subject that has been largely either ignored, ridiculed and/or over-explained to death... in many cases on careful purpose; but has validity and importance in some folk's opinion.

Great more disclosure. So they have been killing people etc to cover this up for 60 years and know it’s all about disclosures??? Why ? The the real question. What is going on ?a reply to: infolurker

originally posted by: Baddogma
If one bothers to really explore the evidence that has been amassed by careful, credible people for over 70 years from every country and every kind of observer in the many thousands of instances, adding the extreme measures by authorities who have not only confiscated detailed photos and film and reportedly threatened both witnesses and people looking into it and include the records that escaped suppression along with reports of landings of seeming mechanical craft that leave traces and people reportedly getting taken and the retrieved materials that have the wrong isotope counts for normal local materials, then it becomes very evident that not only do they exist in some manner and are, in fact, relatively common but certain credible official witnesses have acknowledged that they're commonly seen and detected on radars entering the atmosphere at tens of thousands of miles per hour since the 1950's ... but now more people are taking notice because the news isn't officially laughing anymore.

And to the "they're all balloons" crowd ... I suppose they could be if we'd developed trans atmospheric super sonic balloons back in the Korean war era.

The people who need to be convinced......shouldn't be convinced. Look at how most people handled Covid. I don't think I want those people knowing whatever truth is out thereabout alien craft and/or life. For as much as we bitch about the military cover-ups and silence, maybe they think that way too. Maybe it's better that not everyone knows. Imagine a member of the Westboro Baptist Church being approached by a bonafide alien. I'll leave it at that.

Look at the number of misunderstandings between cultures in just one county, the U.S., there is. Simple-minded people who hate other people simply because they don't understand the culture of a fellow American should, by all means, be kept in the dark about U.F.O's and extraterrestrial life. Keep that knowledge only to the select few who can handle it.

a reply to: Taupin Desciple

Yes, BUT ( a big flabby one) that sort of thinking leads to a fractured society and zig heils.

Luckily, freakazoids like Westboro don't have much agency because they are freakazoids.

If we want a truly open, free society then secrets, in general, are a no-no.

Admittedly a good education (and re-education) system is veeeery important, but I'm of the opinion that "ufo secrecy" goes deeper and ripples into the future.

So.. . shorter version is secrecy equals fascism. Knowledge is power.