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I'm Not Taking The Vax---PERIOD!

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posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm a biomedical engineer.


Wouldn't that make you a man trained extensively in... wait for it... science!?!?! How can this possibly be when you're clearly supporting conspiracy theories!?!?



You can be a scientist and supporting conspiracy theories.

Look at what website this is.




posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: fencesitter85
You clearly know nothing about how mrna vaccines work. It wasn't created as a brand new thing from the ground up. Think more like putting a new engine in a car, rather than inventing the car.


I know about mRNA vaccines. The technology has been studied for a decade or so, but they've never been approved for use on humans, nor studied at large scale. At this scale you can all it experimental. They are "new" even according to the CDC.

"mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases."
www.cdc.gov...

Your engine analogy is not accurate at all. Yes it was created from the ground up, it is a new vehicle. They had to create new mRNA instructions so your cells can create coronavirus proteins. They don't just inject virus proteins anymore, they turn your body into a virus protein factory.

You are putting your faith in some man-made mRNA instructions that can expire, mutate, get damage in transit to your blood stream, then tell your cells what ungodly and artificial and possibly unintended proteins to make in your body.


originally posted by: fencesitter85
If you're dumb enough not to take it while millions and millions of people do (and are unaffected other than a sore arm, like me) then that's on you - but just know you're a part of a movement which has existed in one way or another throughout history, and it never ends well for you.


If you're dumb enough to blindly take an experimental drug or medicine, that's on you - but just know you're part of a group which has died, and or become permanently ill, and even called the phone number on the law office commercials asking if you've taken a specific drug and want to take part in a class action lawsuit. It never ends well for you.


edit on 17-3-2021 by More1ThanAny1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm a biomedical engineer.


Wouldn't that make you a man trained extensively in... wait for it... science!?!?! How can this possibly be when you're clearly supporting conspiracy theories!?!?



You can be a scientist and supporting conspiracy theories.

Look at what website this is.



But you said

originally posted by: Soulece
You're either on the side of science or on the side of conspiracy theories.


My God, next thing you're gonna backtrack on is vaccinations themselves. Please don't go full Karren on us, ya?



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm a biomedical engineer.


Wouldn't that make you a man trained extensively in... wait for it... science!?!?! How can this possibly be when you're clearly supporting conspiracy theories!?!?






If it's a choice between trusting politicians and their pundits or scientists whom dwelve into the fringe. . . .



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm a professional Civil Engineer with several degrees...



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm a biomedical engineer.


Wouldn't that make you a man trained extensively in... wait for it... science!?!?! How can this possibly be when you're clearly supporting conspiracy theories!?!?



You can be a scientist and supporting conspiracy theories.

Look at what website this is.



But you said

originally posted by: Soulece
You're either on the side of science or on the side of conspiracy theories.


My God, next thing you're gonna backtrack on is vaccinations themselves. Please don't go full Karren on us, ya?


I did. But there is a special time where those two, do in fact, meet. I have to admit that.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm a professional Civil Engineer with several degrees...


You're an engineer.

You think like an engineer.




posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Soulece

If your definition of an "outlier" is someone who is not being paraded on TV by the CDC or the major news outlets, then I feel sorry for you.
Here's a few more:



Anericas Frontline Doctors (Banned by YouTube for "your own good" because they are so helpful).
edit on 3 17 2021 by underpass61 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


You have no freedom to infringe upon the rights of others.

If you want to be naked in front of children, I hope they arrest you.

I will always argue for individual rights and freedoms as long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others.

Anyone who argues against me will always be arguing for fewer freedoms. A difficult position to hold.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?


Because its a freedom. You're saying you arent getting a vaccine because its your freedom. Its a silly logic that people use because they want to be the new age snowflakes.

And if you dont get it, you will have unfortunate things happen like maybe you wont be able to travel.

There's a price to pay for freedom. Nobody is forcing you to take it. But things will not be allowed, maybe, if you don't. I repeat, there is a price to freedom.
edit on 17-3-2021 by Soulece because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?


Because its a freedom. You're saying you arent getting a vaccine because its your freedom. Its a silly logic that people use because they want to be the new age snowflakes.

And if you dont get it, you will have unfortunate things happen like maybe you wont be able to travel.

There's a price to pay for freedom. Nobody is forcing you to take it. But things will not be allowed, maybe, if you don't. I repeat, there is a price to freedom.


No.

There's only a cost to freedom that anti-freedom individuals are trying to impose.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?


Because its a freedom. You're saying you arent getting a vaccine because its your freedom. Its a silly logic that people use because they want to be the new age snowflakes.

And if you dont get it, you will have unfortunate things happen like maybe you wont be able to travel.

There's a price to pay for freedom. Nobody is forcing you to take it. But things will not be allowed, maybe, if you don't. I repeat, there is a price to freedom.


No.

There's only a cost to freedom that anti-freedom individuals are trying to impose.


Because we care about others. If you have covid and you get anywhere near my family, I dont care about your freedoms. You get the **** from us or I will make it happen. And that's that. Freedom only goes so far. You have the right to refuse a vaccine. I will never say you have to take it. However, its a foolish way to think, but its your life. And you can be refused service for your choice. Be willing to accept that because that will be your future.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?


Because its a freedom. You're saying you arent getting a vaccine because its your freedom. Its a silly logic that people use because they want to be the new age snowflakes.

And if you dont get it, you will have unfortunate things happen like maybe you wont be able to travel.

There's a price to pay for freedom. Nobody is forcing you to take it. But things will not be allowed, maybe, if you don't. I repeat, there is a price to freedom.


Except that the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that Americans have a right over their own bodies and discrimination is illegal, so you'd be wrong here. I can't refuse to hire or fire someone because they had an abortion, despite the fact that I am opposed to abortion... why? Because they have the Right over their own body and I cannot discriminate against them for exercising that Right. The same will manifest itself where this influenza "vaccine" is concerned. It will have to be demonstrated in court that an individual's job makes the vaccine a necessity (which will be nearly impossible outside of the medical and institutional venues of employment) and blocking people from traveling across state lines or shopping without the vaccine will be a total non-starter. The Constitution actually guarantees the right to cross state lines so long as one is not in a pending criminal trial or on parole and no, there aren't exceptions made for cases where the government is trying to protect people from viruses made in Chinese laboratories.

The price to freedom has long ago been paid by all the soldiers who fought and died to secure it... if our freedom takes your life because we, the unvaccinated masses infect your feeble carcass with the Chinapox while out buying groceries, then oh well... it's not like the body count that pays for freedom must be paid by the military alone, ya? If you're that afraid of it, perhaps stay home.



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?


Because its a freedom. You're saying you arent getting a vaccine because its your freedom. Its a silly logic that people use because they want to be the new age snowflakes.

And if you dont get it, you will have unfortunate things happen like maybe you wont be able to travel.

There's a price to pay for freedom. Nobody is forcing you to take it. But things will not be allowed, maybe, if you don't. I repeat, there is a price to freedom.


No.

There's only a cost to freedom that anti-freedom individuals are trying to impose.


Because we care about others. If you have covid and you get anywhere near my family, I dont care about your freedoms. You get the **** from us or I will make it happen. And that's that. Freedom only goes so far. You have the right to refuse a vaccine. I will never say you have to take it. However, its a foolish way to think, but its your life. And you can be refused service for your choice. Be willing to accept that because that will be your future.


So you believe that your freedom is more important than mine.

hmmf.

Sounds a lot like some are more equal that others. . . .



posted on Mar, 17 2021 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soulece

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Soulece

So I am still free to travel and shop, correct?

Or must I mask forever?


Only tin foil hats wearing people think we will wear masks forever.

This isnt the case.


It's a freedom issue, a rights issue and a medical issue.

I'm a biomedical engineer. I've been at ground zero of this since the start. I know entire teams of respiratory therapists who refuse the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses who also refuse the vaccine.

I refuse to sacrifice my freedoms for ginned up fears brought on by the media and politicians.

And before you go on about 500,000 American deaths, I'd question the numbers because most rational people already are.


Muh freedumbz!


If your only reply is to mock freedom, individual liberties, something our very nation was founded on, then you are no American.


I am going to go walk into a store without wearing any clothes. I better not be arrested because MAH FREEDUMBZ


Again, mocking freedom.


lolz

Keep digging that hole.


Well that is essentially what you're saying. Its my freedom to be naked. Am I allowed to do this?


How does being naked, which is a natural state, relate to the right over your own body to refuse a vaccination?


Because its a freedom. You're saying you arent getting a vaccine because its your freedom. Its a silly logic that people use because they want to be the new age snowflakes.

And if you dont get it, you will have unfortunate things happen like maybe you wont be able to travel.

There's a price to pay for freedom. Nobody is forcing you to take it. But things will not be allowed, maybe, if you don't. I repeat, there is a price to freedom.


No.

There's only a cost to freedom that anti-freedom individuals are trying to impose.


Because we care about others. If you have covid and you get anywhere near my family, I dont care about your freedoms. You get the **** from us or I will make it happen. And that's that. Freedom only goes so far. You have the right to refuse a vaccine. I will never say you have to take it. However, its a foolish way to think, but its your life. And you can be refused service for your choice. Be willing to accept that because that will be your future.


Also, as I said earlier in this thread, if it reaches the point where service is dependent on showing a certificate of vaccination, it isn't like such a certificate won't be readily available for a reasonable price in any black market across the country. Problem solved and you'd be none the wiser.



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