Revealing Facts About Slavery - Thomas Sowell.

a reply to: ketsuko

Right this is relevant only to the UK were you and I are from.

What a terrible argument, have you never had to work just to eat, have you never known empty cupboards, have you never had to wear shoes with holes in the soles or pant's that were torn or a shirt that was giving out at the armpit's I seriously suspect not or else you would definitely see the flaws in that argument.

They are NOT willing they have NO choice, a government that penalizes them for being unemployed, forces even the sick to undergo inhuman demeaning interview and to sit in cold library's all day looking at a computer screen or face being sanctioned, that is no money so no means of survival, even if they eat out of food bank's half stale food and feel like they are making a show of themselves for having to go there and beg for food they stand a bloody more than odd's on chance of losing there home while sanctions so are essentially homeless from that point on which work's to the Tory's plan of making them disappear from the unemployment statistics since without a home they have no address, without an address they find it next to impossible to claim any financial help and also next to impossible to get a job.

Retraining is not always an option either.

The Tory's whitewash this as SMALL GOVERNMENT which is a nice way of packaging what is essentially vile hooray harry antic's and anti working class sentiment among many of them, not all I will warrant the Tory's are not what they used be at the grass root's level but move a little higher in there organization and you will soon run into the damned bastards that GOD himself curses to hell and damnation for there anti Christian antics and hatred of the very people he told them to look after.

I swear some folk's heads are like a block of stone, you just can not get them to see the truth even if you wave it in front of there nose.

Sorry Ketsuko I am not picking on you but I swear sometimes it is so annoying trying to get someone whose view point is diametrically opposed to see what to me is actually common sense reason.

white people always try to justify trans atlantic chattel slavery. go for it if that makes you feel better sitting in a land named after a culture white people exterminated lol

a reply to: magnetik

Strange America takes the name of Amerigo Vespucci.
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Almost EVERY white person with ancestors back to the 16th century has some native ancestry, look at DNA test videos, one were a very white looking guy in his 60's or 70's explains his shock and disbelief that HE has native American ancestry comes to mind.

White people are NOT a separate species to YOU, you could marry a white spouse and have children with them not that I would recommend any white or any other ethnic person marry someone with entrenched racism like yourself.

The Native nations had many names for the Americas and it is possible that they traded with Africa and even as far as Egypt in the past in some lost and perhaps deliberately obfuscated history, Columbus who got no further than Haiti as it is called now was NOT a racist but those that came after him were conquerors fresh out of war with the Arab's (and had more than a fraction of Arab blood in themselves, these Spaniards and Portuguese conquerors were the first to establish colonies in the Americas and many native peoples were extinguished by there wave of conquest and the plagues they took with them BUT the native peoples themselves already wiped out entire nations of there own such as the mysterious disappearance of the Anasazi or the many people that the Aztec's and Inca's had wiped out)..

Columbus SAW native ocean going vessels that apparently traded between the island he called Hispaniola, other islands and the mainland he never actually got to see further west, the native people of the island sadly died out though some modern Haitians possibly may have a tiny fragment of there genes if any did survive into the African population that were later kidnapped to fill the void left by the death of the native people that had been enslaved and died mostly of disease.

There are mysterious Olmec Heads in the Jungles of the mainland that may suggest previous transatlantic trade did occur, they they look a lot like native American people they also look a lot like the features of sub Saharan African people.

There was a ROMAN Galleon complete with Amphora found in the bay of Rio De Janeiro, the Brazilian Navy buried it by dumping gravel and boulders over the site as it was a threat to there official history.
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There have also been rumours of Phoenician inscriptions in stones in the Amazon and Legends of White people that were not the later Europeans.

Cuneiform writing found on a bowl in Bolivia.

It is a phonetic script in which the patters represent sounds much as our modern letters do but all the letters of that ancient alphabet are made up of assembly's of intended triangles to form each letter, that mean's it is probably something in the lost native language of the people that used it but written in an alphabet imported from far, far away.

There is Cocaine and Tobacco in some Egyptian mummy's which also suggests a trade route and either trans Atlantic or trans pacific trade (or BOTH).

Racism STINK's especially anti white racism.

Black people are still enslaving one another in Africa to this very day, Islam even calls Black people FOR SLAVERY, England is the only Nation in the worlds history to actually go to war with pretty much everyone to FREE slaves though it was initially involved in the Atlantic slave trade, The EAST Africans including nations that once Raided Europe FOR slaves became the TRADING PARTNERS of the slave ship captain's or did you think the Europeans just invaded captured entire villages of armed men, woman and children then loaded there ship's up without losing there far less numerous crew members, many east African nations that already had slavery as a way of life and sold to the Arab's and Berbers whose religion they mostly shared got just as rich as the Europeans did from that slave trade though they later rued the day as the Europeans later took them over during the colonial period.

The Barbary Pirates were a rag tag bunch of Islamic pirates that operated out of North East and Northern African port's and kidnapped European men, woman and child to the tune of MILLIONS of people sometimes leaving entire coastal town's empty and burning as there fleet's sailed away.

The Turk's raided Europe and enslaved millions there as well, many more million's died at there hand's.

India has a CASTE system it protects as part of it's religious traditions, it is basically slavery of the lower cast by the upper caste and there are many castes.

Need I go on and on and on or will you never learn the truth.

Hate all you want but GOD is watching YOU.

I understand bitterness, you are not the only people that have suffered and not the only ones that learned to hate but you have made it a tradition and paint every person of a particular skin colour as your enemy when in fact that is not the case, well it is actually they just don't know it but if they knew that YOU were THERE enemy then they WOULD be your enemy, except the good Christian soul's among them that would fight that reaction in themselves and pray for you.

Now let's look at something, I have a religious hatred for the concept of slavery, that hatred of that bondage of another human being comes out of Christian moral tradition and belief that are actually ingrained in western society.

Though for a long time Europe had it's own caste system, the freemen, the Nobles above them, the Bondsmen below them both and the Serf's the common people that were to all intent's and purposes SLAVES below them, that was overthrown by of all thing's the Reformation though it took a long time before it was completely overthrown and people started to actually read what God had said, that Jesus came to Set YOU FREE.

Even up to the 1970's before they were stopped due to a lack of money the British Royal Navy performed anti slavery patrol's and was REGULARLY stopping boats full of people in chains being shipped from Africa usually Somalia to Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

The British Royal Navy SANK US, FRENCH, SPANISH, DUTCH and many other nation's SLAVE SHIP's to put an end to the transatlantic slave trade, because of Christian reformists finally having gained control of our nation we set about slow reforms at home (very slow the poor suffered her very much well into the 20th century and are now destined to head back into that poverty unless we regain our Christian morality which is sorely lacking in either the Current ruling party or there current rival's whom are so unlike the better men that came before them) and more aggressive military reforms over seas.

The concept of the WHITE MANS BURDEN Was invented, this was that we had to Christianize the rest of the world, to give them education, good government, road's, school's and teach to live civilized and under this the native populations of country's that were part of the British Empire (Except the awful crimes of Australia were the native people were hunted like animal's much to our eternal shame) grew exponentially and we maintained peace between otherwise hostile faction's.

With the end of empire and the withdrawal from those nations these faction's that had been at peace under our rule erupted into sectarian wars and blood flowed.

In India the great JEWEL of the empire broke apart into three Nations, Islam and Hinduism being there division.

There were many bad things that the empire did bit over all it did far more good except for the wrongs down to the native Australians and to the Chinese but that latter was also the US, French (opium wars), we were for a time the world's drug dealer along with those other nations.

The Chinese imperial government tried to protect it's people against this but were outgunned and technologically outdated so lost, another shameful stain on our history, as was the Boar War but that was against fellow Europeans in South Africa (And the Boars remain probably the most fearsome enemy's the British ever had who only lost because of dirty tactics (putting there people into concentration camp's) and being outnumbered.

There were many massacres during the empires existence but all paled to those that occurred when the empire withdrew and no longer kept the peace, when that happened brother killed brother and ancient pre-colonial feud's long dormant reignited.

There is no excusing the crimes of the past but your people are every bit as guilty as my people and if you think otherwise you are sorely deluding yourself, we are all descendants of victim's.

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