COVID - A Respiratory Disease

Respiratory diseases are leading causes of death and disability in the world. About 65 million people suffer from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and 3 million die from it each year, making it the third leading cause of death worldwide.

In about the last year there have been just over 2.6 million COVID tagged deaths.

As other threads have mentioned if you take all the influenza numbers and all the respiratory disease numbers add them together track and report them, everybody who is sick, everybody who dies, you have an invented pandemic.

Here is just one countries numbers. Used because they have free health care
Here is the death count for Influenza and pneumonia & Chronic lower respiratory diseases, which are all like COVID for Canada for the last 5 years.

2015 - 20,203
2016 - 18,528
2017 - 20,243
2018 - 21,509
2019 - 19,716

2020 COVID deaths 19,664

Same number of deaths, that is not pandemic numbers, we are all being played.

Don't worry someone will come along and point out how those can't be the actual numbers blah blah blah…

Lots of Us know/have known since the beginning but its been made impossible to even question it.

originally posted by: ATruGod
Don't worry someone will come along and point out how those can't be the actual numbers blah blah blah…

Lots of Us know/have known since the beginning but its been made impossible to even question it.

And... if you post the numbers on social media, they either censor it or add a tag that your numbers are BS.
They have control.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Respiratory diseases are leading causes of death and disability in the world. About 65 million people suffer from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and 3 million die from it each year, making it the third leading cause of death worldwide.

In about the last year there have been just over 2.6 million COVID tagged deaths.

As other threads have mentioned if you take all the influenza numbers and all the respiratory disease numbers add them together track and report them, everybody who is sick, everybody who dies, you have an invented pandemic.

Here is just one countries numbers. Used because they have free health care
Here is the death count for Influenza and pneumonia & Chronic lower respiratory diseases, which are all like COVID for Canada for the last 5 years.

2015 - 20,203
2016 - 18,528
2017 - 20,243
2018 - 21,509
2019 - 19,716

2020 COVID deaths 19,664

Same number of deaths, that is not pandemic numbers, we are all being played.

You are comparing 2 different figures.

What are the total deaths for influenca, pneumonia and respiratory conditions for Canada in 2020?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Numbers are too “low” for an “estimate”.... here in the USA the CDC stopped tracking influenza on April 4th 2020

NOTE: April 4, 2020 was the last week in-season preliminary burden estimates were provided. The estimates below are not the final 2019-2020 cumulative season burden estimates. The preliminary cumulative burden estimates for the 2019-2020 season have been released. In-season preliminary burden estimates are scheduled to resume for the 2020-2021 season this winter. Update as of December 3, 2020: The model used to generate influenza in-season preliminary burden estimates uses current season flu hospitalization data. Reported flu hospitalizations are too low at this time to generate an estimate.

I would imagine Canadians numbers are equally skewed

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

We just gotta keep spreading the “truth” about the virus... so it becomes “viral” and makes it disappear

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Numbers are too “low” for an “estimate”.... here in the USA the CDC stopped tracking influenza on April 4th 2020

NOTE: April 4, 2020 was the last week in-season preliminary burden estimates were provided. The estimates below are not the final 2019-2020 cumulative season burden estimates. The preliminary cumulative burden estimates for the 2019-2020 season have been released. In-season preliminary burden estimates are scheduled to resume for the 2020-2021 season this winter. Update as of December 3, 2020: The model used to generate influenza in-season preliminary burden estimates uses current season flu hospitalization data. Reported flu hospitalizations are too low at this time to generate an estimate.

I would imagine Canadians numbers are equally skewed

The metric given for the last 5 years was influenza, pneumonia and respiratory conditions. Unless you compare the same metric its impossible to draw any conclusions from that data.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

it seems the point is, if you look at all of those factors, and crunch the numbers for each year, you find that with Covid added in, the numbers don't change, you just replace some numbers with Covid deaths. If the data shows that to be untrue, it will be easy enough to prove. Just show your numbers.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

it seems the point is, if you look at all of those factors, and crunch the numbers for each year, you find that with Covid added in, the numbers don't change, you just replace some numbers with Covid deaths. If the data shows that to be untrue, it will be easy enough to prove. Just show your numbers.

The OP is the one making the claim. He is comparing two different metrics so that shows us absolutely nothing at all.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

it seems the point is, if you look at all of those factors, and crunch the numbers for each year, you find that with Covid added in, the numbers don't change, you just replace some numbers with Covid deaths. If the data shows that to be untrue, it will be easy enough to prove. Just show your numbers.

The OP is the one making the claim. He is comparing two different metrics so that shows us absolutely nothing at all.

If you want to prove him wrong, you will need more than opinion. What is being said is that they used Flu numbers to pad the Covid numbers to make it seem worse than it really is. All you need to do is prove the numbers are not correct. he used Canada.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

it seems the point is, if you look at all of those factors, and crunch the numbers for each year, you find that with Covid added in, the numbers don't change, you just replace some numbers with Covid deaths. If the data shows that to be untrue, it will be easy enough to prove. Just show your numbers.

The OP is the one making the claim. He is comparing two different metrics so that shows us absolutely nothing at all.

If you want to prove him wrong, you will need more than opinion. What is being said is that they used Flu numbers to pad the Covid numbers to make it seem worse than it really is. All you need to do is prove the numbers are not correct. he used Canada.

The one making the claim is the one who needs to provide the evidence . He hasn't even provided a link to the source if the numbers.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

it seems the point is, if you look at all of those factors, and crunch the numbers for each year, you find that with Covid added in, the numbers don't change, you just replace some numbers with Covid deaths. If the data shows that to be untrue, it will be easy enough to prove. Just show your numbers.

The OP is the one making the claim. He is comparing two different metrics so that shows us absolutely nothing at all.

If you want to prove him wrong, you will need more than opinion. What is being said is that they used Flu numbers to pad the Covid numbers to make it seem worse than it really is. All you need to do is prove the numbers are not correct. he used Canada.

The one making the claim is the one who needs to provide the evidence . He hasn't even provided a link to the source if the numbers.

then without a counter argument, he wins. YAA!!!!!!!!!! WOOP WOOP!!!!

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

If you die of one of these respiratory diseases, you can't then catch another and die of that one too. So it is to be expected that a rise in deaths of one cause would mean a reduction in deaths of another, so there is that.

... and the things that stop the spread of COVID-19 seem to be even more effective at stopping the spread of influenza. There's that too.

But you are also cherry picking data. Many nations now have the epidemic spread under control, they have 'flattened the curve'. Here in New Zealand, we have had 26 people die of COVID-19 so far, and have all but eliminated the virus within our borders. If you looked at our numbers, you might assume that there is no threat from it. The truth is, we have effectively mitigated against the disease. If we had done nothing, or delayed like in other countries, then we would be as badly afflicted as they are.

Why don't you, instead, look at countries that contribute the most in numbers of infected (and the most numbers of dead), where the numbers of the tested positive infected are in the tens of millions? They are the countries that are showing the full weight of the epidemic.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Dashboard

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe that is why influenza numbers “disappeared”..... so the comparison couldn’t be made.

I believe the OP is stating that the 5 years of flu, looks similar to the Covid numbers.... because....... they probably are one in the same.

The numbers quoted aren't just flu and offer a meaningless comparison unless you also show the same metric for 2020.

it seems the point is, if you look at all of those factors, and crunch the numbers for each year, you find that with Covid added in, the numbers don't change, you just replace some numbers with Covid deaths. If the data shows that to be untrue, it will be easy enough to prove. Just show your numbers.

The OP is the one making the claim. He is comparing two different metrics so that shows us absolutely nothing at all.

If you want to prove him wrong, you will need more than opinion. What is being said is that they used Flu numbers to pad the Covid numbers to make it seem worse than it really is. All you need to do is prove the numbers are not correct. he used Canada.

The one making the claim is the one who needs to provide the evidence . He hasn't even provided a link to the source if the numbers.

then without a counter argument, he wins. YAA!!!!!!!!!! WOOP WOOP!!!!

The counter argument is the OP has failed to offer evidence to support his claim.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

If you die of one of these respiratory diseases, you can't then catch another and die of that one too. So it is to be expected that a rise in deaths of one cause would mean a reduction in deaths of another, so there is that.

... and the things that stop the spread of COVID-19 seem to be even more effective at stopping the spread of influenza. There's that too.

But you are also cherry picking data. Many nations now have the epidemic spread under control, they have 'flattened the curve'. Here in New Zealand, we have had 26 people die of COVID-19 so far, and have all but eliminated the virus within our borders. If you looked at our numbers, you might assume that there is no threat from it. The truth is, we have effectively mitigated against the disease. If we had done nothing, or delayed like in other countries, then we would be as badly afflicted as they are.

Why don't you, instead, look at countries that contribute the most in numbers of infected (and the most numbers of dead), where the numbers of the tested positive infected are in the tens of millions? They are the countries that are showing the full weight of the epidemic.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Dashboard

I heard Gilligan's Island didn't have any cases of Corona. they said your island did it all wrong. Don't hate the messenger, I'm just relaying information. (The Professor validated the findings, so it's really scinecy)

People die from respiratory diseases most often from the interaction of their condition with a virus or fungal infection....sometimes bacterial infections also cause the same problem too. Food intolerances can also cause respiratory disease progression, and that is related to metabolic conditions which also is related to increased reactions with the microbe infections interacting with things.

I have no clue if what I just wrote makes any sense to anyone, it makes sense to me though.

Some of the chemistry they are adding to our foods has not been evaluated properly against long term medical issues because the FDA has not personally done testing on the additives.

Flattening the curve??? Could it be we've reached herd immunity?

a reply to: chr0naut

Given the role of Johns Hopkins School of Public Health in Event 201, I am most skeptical of any data they put forth.

That doesn't make me happy because I used to greatly admire JH, but it appears they are somehow an enabler of the Plandemic.