PORN As Mind Control and Weapon

a reply to: LABTECH767

Sounds like a rather a ""specialised category"" to me LABTECH767.

I don't think the Monkeys had Broadband.

I would have thought the trick world be to pick your nose with finesse and eat it.

Or is that cake, anyhoo let them eat Bananas, or play with them as the case may be.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Irishhaf

Rough sex is abuse, it is only learned from abusive childhood's or warped mind's sorry but fact, you treat others as you wish to be treated yourself not as objects.

I do not Judge I just make my opinion known on that point BUT I have since removed that part of the quote AND I have to say that I accept my opinion is something some would find unadventurous but that is just my opinion not the law or anything so take it or leave it.

Got news for you bub, you call someone warped for doing what they want to do to achieve orgasm is actually judging someone.

Period dot end of discussion you are judging people for doing things that nobody is forcing you to do.

a reply to: andy06shake

I am a Christian but I can live with or without evolution it does not affect my beliefs and either way is from the dust of the earth (Excuse me a moment while I dispose of this bugger).

Adaptation does happen but the concept of evolution goes against the conservation of energy, it is like water flowing up a water fall.

I mean a pool of chemical soup one day decides to start to reproduce and puts on a cell wall then decides to work in a team and make itself into something more interesting then on and on.

The universe may itself be conscious for all we know and beyond that it may itself also be a creation of some higher being.

I Believe in God so am coming at it from that angle but I respect agnostics because they are not decided the only ones I have a problem with are Atheists because they believe AGAINST a God and have even less evidence on the whole than believers do in fact they have NO evidence to deny the existence of a God only there opinion and personal sense of isolation to go by.

In an infinite universe all things are possible and indeed PROBABLE even the vaunted room full or gorillas typing up Shakespeare's collected work's so the existence of a God is more or less Definite but in a finite universe the argument then becomes how did it begin out of nothing so there must be a creator whom is the embodiment of source of the causative effect that gave rise to a universe, nothing can not spontaneously become something so something has to come before something.

originally posted by: LABTECH767


Alright I will be serious, I personally think the ape to man theory as holes and don't ascribe to it though I do see the vast genetic similarity and that some species of apes are all too human like for comfort such as Chimp's.
However I believe that long before chimp's were supposed to exist something too much like a modern human for chance seems to have existed based on out of place artefact's such as these.

The problem is species do not stop evolving, and so last about a million years picking any point in time. What this means is whatever was human 1 million years ago would be so different we could not breed with them. Modern man is about 250k years old which means we could still breed with him, but would they would still be different. Most likely short, harry and ugly as hell to us. There are some ocean creatures that have had a much slower genic change and so may exceed 1 million years, but land creatures have so many environmental factors to include the radiation of the sun we have a lot of changes rather quickly on the evolutionary scale of quickness. What this means is whatever you think might have been around in the past, it wasn't human. Chimps are close to us, about 4 or 5 million years. Orangutans are much more distant cousin to the Chimp than we are at about 8 to 10 million years even though they look more similar to them than we do, maybe its the hair.

What you see in that picture was a natural formation and not something humans made. BTW why do we always get inspired with raw stone as some measurement of advance civilization? In the end, no matter how fancy it maybe it is still raw stone being worked and that is not very advance.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I'm on the fence LABTECH767.

I'm Christened a protestant all the same.

I believe further study is required, put it that way, or at least today i do.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

Are you an atheist? I wonder what you would think of this short video?

Well no I'm not, but the problem is all you creationist keep mixing up the "why" with the "how". Evolution explains the how, and not the why. Evolution doesn't care if life started out as an intelligent design, or was purely random act of chemical processes in our universe. It doesn't touch on how life starts, so the whole Creationist vs Evolution is total BS and is like comparing apples to oranges.

Here is a hint...Evolution can be the work of God as it would just be the method on how God created life, or did he wave a magic wand 6,000 years ago and poof! all life was instantly created?

BTW there is over 360,000 species of beetles, so either evolution did it or God really likes beetles....

a reply to: Xtrozero

Right but what if they are already predisposed or programmed to become those other species if the niche is present.

Ever heard of the extinct Rhino's before the Rhino family of today evolved or was created or appeared, there were Many in the last 65 million years alone and also many species similar to cats and similar to wolves so think on this, what if humanity is the goal of all of this, what if there were other humans, not human like but damned near identical long ago, they are there to house sentience, self awareness and creativity.

Perhaps like the cat's and the dog's and the rhino's humans have been before our current race.

The concept of Quantum consciousness also posits the potential that WE exist on a higher level a quantum level beyond our physical realm, if so then if we go extinct on this level and no new children are being born to enrich us there perhaps we or our CREATOR makes a new race to continue the cycle and add new soul's to the family, to the greater man that is formed from all those soul's beyond this level of existence.

Of course I am twisting what I believe and adding some what if's salted with some conjecture but ask yourself, what if?.

I mean were you there to see a Lucy or her species turn into more and more intelligent animal's, to see the day they first learned to say an expletive after dropping a bit of flint on there toe, to learn to count to ten then twenty then a hundred, to learn to manage other less intelligent species instead of having to hoof it after them over massive plain's before finally popping up to us and all in the geological blink of an eye, were you there during the previous four and half billion years to see what came before, do you know what happened to as much as two miles of the entire earths surface when it was ground down by glaciers during the snow ball earth epoch, were you there to see the supposed and now disproved Cambrian explosion (They have found complex life far older now so it did exist before that during the Snow ball earth epoch and probably there were several similar life divergences and perhaps entire ecosystems lost to the fossil record during that time).

No and neither was I and neither was old Charles head on a chimp Darwin.

I believe what I believe because it makes sense to me, I believe in God, I do not limit him to my notion and think there have been MANY worlds (or vineyards and harvests if you like the biblical language) on this world (field), I believe there are sufficient OOPARTS to question human evolution and even thrown the current model completely out of the window but I also note that they have a propensity for vanishing and even being replaced by replicas while the original is probably then in some wealthy collectors private collection.

There may be deliberately ignored evidence both oral and physical that human being's not another race or another evolutionary convergence may be millions of years older than the primates that modern theory claims we come from.

That does not completely however throw evolution out of the window, what about Devolution for that matter, six fingered larger brained giants of the past, base twelve number systems we still use today in marking time, what if we devolved children are often still born with six fingers and toes and there used to be a whole village in Spain were they all had it, these were not just fingers but the complete connections, bone system, nerves and tendon's and they used them as we use our fingers, they were fully human except for this quirk, children are born with them all the time it is one of the most common SUPPOSED birth defects and most western hospitals operate before the child grow's usually as soon as they are born or shortly after to remove the excess bones and digit's.

What about Trans species migration of DNA and RNA through viral propagation, you live with domesticated animal's so long they take on some of your DNA and you there's through virus affecting transfer of genetic material which is then incorporated and can lead to mutations, a pig becomes so human that it is a host for all the diseases that can kill us as well as it for example and pig's are the oldest KNOWN domesticated animal after the wolf.

What about people living with primates in a forest for thousands of even hundreds of thousands of years, transfer of genetic material by failed viral vectors mutating there DNA over that time, surviving children carrying those mutations.

I mean if we are going to play evolution then devolution also has to occur right?.

What if the ancestors of the Apes were human's that just got a bit too inbred, I mean the future of the British royal family (though they look a bit too horse like for that), a bit like Orson Well's Morlock's, what if Neanderthal were just survivors of a nuclear war also gone inbred after escaping the nuclear winter and living in caves becoming more and more uncultured and we only know them from the latter part of there existence before other survivors came and took the land from them?.

A fossil record is actually a jigsaw puzzle and non of the pieces fit so to make them adhere to the Evolutionary model they have to then conjecture that this fossil has this in common with that one and shows trait's of this one over here so must be related to them both and fit here somewhere between them, this is not of course necessarily true and is actually making the evidence FIT the theory rather than the theory fit the evidence.

And worse they most often approach the fossil with a preconceived notion of where it is supposed to fit into that tree they have constructed but when looked at objectively they have NO evidence just opinion and belief in the model they have constructed.

I am NOT saying it is wrong but I am not going to say it is right either because I believe it IS wrong but that is my belief so I too am not free from approaching the subject with a free mind on the matter.

Double posted hate it when that happens.

originally posted by: LABTECH767

Right but what if they are already predisposed or programmed to become those other species if the niche is present.

Ever heard of the extinct Rhino's before the Rhino family of today evolved or was created or appeared, there were Many in the last 65 million years alone and also many species similar to cats and similar to wolves so think on this, what if humanity is the goal of all of this, what if there were other humans, not human like but damned near identical long ago, they are there to house sentience, self awareness and creativity.

Lots of what ifs there.... I can play what if all day, but there is no factual evidence of any kind so it is fantasy right now. One thing to think about....one of the reasons why much of the animal life we see that looks similar i.e. two eyes, 4 limbs, nose mouth etc about the same internal organs in may cases is life was knocked back to simple life forms except for deep ocean about 600 million years ago with snowball earth, then once we warmed up some life exploded back to what we finally see today, so lots of similarities.

Of course I am twisting what I believe and adding some what if's salted with some conjecture but ask yourself, what if?.

Anything is possible but a what if is not reality...

In the end all I'm suggesting it they were not human in anyway....BTW we are the only species to go to the moon and it seems we are the first to use oil from the ground, or mine diamonds gold etc all those things that could stand the test of time.

What about people living with primates in a forest for thousands of even hundreds of thousands of years, transfer of genetic material by failed viral vectors mutating there DNA over that time, surviving children carrying those mutations.

OK but would be very isolated cases most likely die out...BTW when close spices do have offspring they are sterile such as the mule is, so it stops there, but it seems Neanderthal bred with us at some point since many have about 3% of their DNA, so who knows.

I am NOT saying it is wrong but I am not going to say it is right either because I believe it IS wrong but that is my belief so I too am not free from approaching the subject with a free mind on the matter.

A lot of religious people kind of stop at Darwin and just argue that point, but the realty is we know so much more and Darwin got a lot right, BUT got a lot wrong through it was astounding work for the era. A book to read or listen too is called What Darwin Got Wrong...it might help.

a reply to: Xtrozero

But as I point out there is actually NO evidence FOR evolution, for adaptation certainly but NOT for evolution just interpretation and fitting of evidence TO a theory which is not the same as evidence FOR a theory.

originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Irishhaf

Rough sex is abuse, it is only learned from abusive childhood's or warped mind's sorry but fact, you treat others as you wish to be treated yourself not as objects.

I do not Judge I just make my opinion known on that point BUT I have since removed that part of the quote AND I have to say that I accept my opinion is something some would find unadventurous but that is just my opinion not the law or anything so take it or leave it.

Got news for you bub, you call someone warped for doing what they want to do to achieve orgasm is actually judging someone.

Period dot end of discussion you are judging people for doing things that nobody is forcing you to do.

Actually I do judge folk's like that as Selfish self obsessed narcissistic twits and that is being nice, if one came near my daughter I would castrate him after beating him to a pulp.

Sexual violence is cowardice and only little men (little inside) do that, woman that like it are just odd to my mind and maybe come from coarser stock than we do or something like that, anyway I would not choose to lie with such a woman.

Reaching Orgasm is not love making it is just physical pleasure, if you love someone orgasm comes of it's own accord there is no need for all that nasty behaviour or miss whiplash crap (I used to have a ball laughing a local ice cream van Mr Whippy).

a reply to: LABTECH767

Aside of course from the fossil records, biogeography, comparative anatomy, comparative embryology, and molecular biology.

I mean those five lines of evidence that support the theory evolution.

Evolution is a scientific theory supported by an overwhelming amount of evidence.

Problem being some Christians fear that accepting said theory means rejecting God as creator.

Even there that logic all the same can be considered to be rather sketchy and just does not follow.

a reply to: andy06shake

All life on the earth is related, a banana has more than fifty percent of your DNA but it is not typing a keyboard right now.

Still you are not descended from a banana tree (unless you climbed one at some point in your life).

Comparative simply shows comparison, similarity's and differences it does not prove link, it is interpretation usually based on preconceived notions that gives us cause to link one species to another in that way.

Let me put it this way, I can make a skateboard and a bicycle, they both have wheel's, both move across the ground and both carry people, they have a lot of comparative similarity's and few differences but there biggest link is that they would then have both been made by the same person, they are not the same thing however except in the broadest terms of being vehicular.

And I don't, it would not affect my belief in God, I would just argue he uses tool's and evolution would then be one of his tool's if I can be convinced of Evolution beyond any doubt which I am not, on balance it is the best non religious explanation but even old Darwin had his doubts and he created the theory.
Bit of a long link so maybe won't show, just use the quote function to see it and paste it into the address bar.
www.darwinproject.ac.uk...#:~:text=:%20Charles%20Darwin%E2%80%99s%20own%20statements%20of%20doubt%20a bout,Stephen%20C.%20Meyer,%20Seattle%20Times,%2010%20Jun%202002.)

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Last year or so we were told that sex actually connected us to another human permanently, does anyone remember this?

No, I'm fairly sure you just made that up, this isn't something that happens in reality.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
The male sperm for example actually travels to a Females brain and becomes apart of her.

No, no it doesn't.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Maybe why it is a good reason for two to become one and not add any others to the mix!

Seriously? Where is the fun in that? Clearly you've never been with more than one person at a time? Let me tell you, you are missing out. Before the 1st lockdown me and 2 of my female friends got together every weekend and had lots and lots of fun, the kind of fun you can't have without adding others to the mix.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Well we all know what is going on in the world now with the tremendous amount of child rape, the word abuse seems way to tame.
Perhaps all of this is not just escalating by natural forces and changing times.

Sadly child abuse exists but tremendous amounts? I don't think so.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
I ran across this video and was very surprised by it, it seems the very brain is changed by watching porn and thus the behavior is also changed.
"The Science of Addiction and the Brain", he explains how porn use changes the brain, eventually leading to not being able to perform."

Porn addiction is a terrible thing, the problem is that people fetishize it. The true definition of a fetish is something, without which, you cannot be aroused.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
This man offers a way to help those who have fallen into this bottomless hole along with an explanation of how people get there.
If it could help just one person it is be worth its weight is gold!
nogreaterjoy.org...

I also watched this and it feels connected so am sharing I know this Man has videos on the same subject also and offers a lot of support.

*yawn *

No thanks, I'm not even clicking on those links. What a croc...

a reply to: LABTECH767

"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." Theodosius Dobzhansky

Broadly speaking, evolution is a change in the genetic makeup, and often heritable features of a population over time.

Its very real LABTECH767, even observable to a degree, and happening on a large and small scale all across the planet.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Irishhaf

Rough sex is abuse, it is only learned from abusive childhood's or warped mind's sorry but fact, you treat others as you wish to be treated yourself not as objects.

I do not Judge I just make my opinion known on that point BUT I have since removed that part of the quote AND I have to say that I accept my opinion is something some would find unadventurous but that is just my opinion not the law or anything so take it or leave it.

Sexual objectification is a wonderful thing. I quite enjoy it from time to time, on the receiving end that is.

Bit of a kinky bugger me y'see.

Some of my sexual activities require waiver forms, just in case someone calls the police.

a reply to: andy06shake

That is called Adaptation.

Also in water supply's fish, frog's and other amphibians, water foul are all being made androgynous and mutated by pollution which is disrupting the natural balance of there body's, oestrogen in water is turning animals gay literally and definitely also affecting human being's, most of it comes from birth control pill's and has entered the water table to now epidemic proportions while there are also microplastics that are also a danger to it.

How do we know that bacteria have randomly mutated to eat plastic, how do we know that they were not already in the oil eating it and just escaped into the environment?.

What about plant's, is Monsanto's GM plant seed and there pesticides that kill the soil and there fertilizers that also do and all of that crap washing into the water not also affecting life.

Some people are immune to disease and there kid's are healthier so they will live on, others will die if they catch a common cold but is that evolution?.

No it's adaptation.

What about selective breeding is that evolution, no it's human tinkering with animals by inbreeding them to bring out certain trait's and suppress others.

And is one dead geneticist whom was not the best in his field and has since been surpassed even by geneticists that do not believe in Evolution supposed to impress anyone.

What if God left a trademark in your DNA?.
www.delightfulknowledge.com...

originally posted by: LABTECH767

But as I point out there is actually NO evidence FOR evolution, for adaptation certainly but NOT for evolution just interpretation and fitting of evidence TO a theory which is not the same as evidence FOR a theory.

The term evolution is just a generic term these days, we are light years past what Darwin wrote about, but then that is typically where creationist start and stop on the subject.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Irishhaf

Rough sex is abuse, it is only learned from abusive childhood's or warped mind's sorry but fact, you treat others as you wish to be treated yourself not as objects.

I do not Judge I just make my opinion known on that point BUT I have since removed that part of the quote AND I have to say that I accept my opinion is something some would find unadventurous but that is just my opinion not the law or anything so take it or leave it.

Sexual objectification is a wonderful thing. I quite enjoy it from time to time, on the receiving end that is.

Bit of a kinky bugger me y'see.

Some of my sexual activities require waiver forms, just in case someone calls the police.

Hiding behind a cushion and hoping not to have nightmares of black latex wearing whip bearing lady's - I mean I am NOT a politician it's those kind that are into all of that especially English public school boy's that love to be punished and use the phrase "I've been a naughty boy punish me" - ever seen the movie Scandal that will put you into the picture on that and no wonder the world is in the mess it is with that ilk in charge of things.

OK joking aside that is what you like just not my cup of tea, oh there used to be a show on very late on Channel 4 on British TV called the word and they used to put really ridiculous but hilarious things on, there was this very wealth new York guy in his 80's that had a mistress in her 60's who would come and the only way he could get it on was for her to use sand paper on his? and jerk him off, literally not lying, I was much younger, much younger indeed when I saw that show and nearly chocked on my late night snack then between laughing and nearly vomiting at the thought of it realized human beings are sometimes EXTREMELY different to me.

Here is the very first episode of the Word, it got progressively more risqué and ducked under the censors until it went too far always with them taking the piss out of some poor sod but it was also funny.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Maybe it is, but what is a creationist someone that think's the earth is just about 5 or 6 thousand years old, they are a minority but they have some excellent arguments in there camp, I interpret it differently I believe the earth is over four and a half billion years old but I believe that there have been MANY worlds on this earth.

There is a tainted but once popular theory called Pre-Adamite theory which was held by many believers but which became twisted by those that wanted to use it to justify slavery and racial superiority much as they did the false science of eugenics'.

But there were NON racist pre-Adamite believers.

So I think it only fair to say there are other camp's and even among each camp there are various schools of thought only the most fundamentalist are unwavering.

It does not mean that I disagree with them it mean's I don't know but I do believe in Christ and that God made everything and I mean everything, every star in the cosmos, did he do it in six day's, is god even inside our time frame and what is a day to him the bible says it is as a thousand years to us but that may be a rough estimate and it could be far, far longer than that.

Is evolution therefore merely the fingerprints left in the clay that was on the potters wheel?.