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Otherwise, I'm perfectly content going in circles forgetting/re-learning until we get it just right.
originally posted by: iammrhappy86
Below are a few of the states of existence which I would consider fitting of the title of Hell, depending on One's point of view.
Earth.
I promise you, if one were to look across our universe at all existing worlds, if one was aware of the complexity and intermingling of dimensions of life, then it's clear to see why we depict Hell as so terrifying. For a Spiritual Being to live as a Human on Earth in this Day, is painful and mind numbing.
The Spirit Realm
All things are possible in this Realm; we live that which we create for ourselves. After countless cycles of incarnations on earth, a soul can become 'broken' or 'disconnected', and create a veritable Hell for themselves.
Lower Dimensional Worlds
I know little of these, but I can see how this can be considered a Hell of sort. To be limited in existence and in capability of expression, to be witness to the material yet 'live' only through its inhabitants as an influence, insomuch as they allow.
Negatively Polarized Higher Dimensional Realm
I do not wish to speak much on this, as I know little of it. I am aware however that in higher dimensions, there is a 'split' in existence between "Positive/Negative" or "Love/Non-Love". Veritably then, the darker path could be considered a higher (or lower, depending on your point of view) level of Hell.
Personally, I'm not afraid of any and all Hells. I have found my faith and strengthened it in Gold, and I look forward to the Day of Judgment; if such thing exists!
Otherwise, I'm perfectly content going in circles forgetting/re-learning until we get it just right.
Or, maybe, I'm just a Fool and it's all in my head; to ashes we fall, and that is all. So be it then! Come what may!
For now, I live, as we all, and I choose to entertain such thoughts!
I encourage you to share what you believe "Hell" to be, if you even believe in such things.
I love a Good Story, so share as you please.
And have a Lovely Day!
I love you all.
^_^
originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: iammrhappy86
You know what would be the ultimate hell for me?
Imagine the following scenario.
You go to heaven, and you realize that your neighbors for eternity are the two guys who killed your teenage child, but not before brutally torturing her for hours. They accepted Christ as their saviour hours before receiving the death penalty.
Your daughter had the average rebellious, finding herself through mistakes type teenage life but she took a split from religion as young people sometimes do. Besides that she still did charity work and she basically had a good heart so you were sure that it was just a phase.
However she is now burning in Hell for all eternity while you have to march hand in hand with her murderers for infinity to the daily heavenly worship sessions proclaiming how awesome your god is.
That would be the ultimate hell for me.
originally posted by: Freth
a reply to: iammrhappy86
One only needs to look at the word used for hell in Revelation to see what it means.
Strong's G86
: the grave
This becomes evident when in Revelation 20:14 death (sleep) and hell (the grave) are destroyed in the lake of fire at the time of judgment, because they are no longer necessary. Sin is being done away with. Death is the wages of sin. Hell is the waiting place for resurrection, either unto life or unto destruction in the lake of fire.
originally posted by: iammrhappy86
originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: iammrhappy86
You know what would be the ultimate hell for me?
Imagine the following scenario.
You go to heaven, and you realize that your neighbors for eternity are the two guys who killed your teenage child, but not before brutally torturing her for hours. They accepted Christ as their saviour hours before receiving the death penalty.
Your daughter had the average rebellious, finding herself through mistakes type teenage life but she took a split from religion as young people sometimes do. Besides that she still did charity work and she basically had a good heart so you were sure that it was just a phase.
However she is now burning in Hell for all eternity while you have to march hand in hand with her murderers for infinity to the daily heavenly worship sessions proclaiming how awesome your god is.
That would be the ultimate hell for me.
Fortunately, this is much too barbaric and wrong for our Father.
Everything He creates is perfect.
There is no wrong.
Definition: The world empire of false religion, embracing all religions whose teachings and practices do not conform to the true worship of Jehovah, the only true God. Following the Flood of Noah’s day, false religion had its beginning at Babel (later known as Babylon). (Gen. 10:8-10; 11:4-9) In time, Babylonish religious beliefs and practices spread to many lands. So Babylon the Great became a fitting name for false religion as a whole.
What evidence points to the identity of Babylon the Great, referred to in Revelation?
It could not be the ancient city of Babylon. Revelation was written at the end of the first century C.E. and describes events that would reach down to our day. The Encyclopedia Americana says: “The city [Babylon] was taken by the Persians under Cyrus the Great in 539 B.C. Later Alexander the Great planned to make Babylon the capital of his eastern empire, but after his death Babylon gradually lost importance.” (1956, Vol. III, p. 7) Today the city is an uninhabited ruin.
In the symbolism of Revelation, Babylon the Great is referred to as a “great city,” a “kingdom” that rules other kings. (Rev. 17:18) Like a city, it would have many organizations within it; and like a kingdom that includes other kings in its domain, it would be international in scope. It is described as having relations with political rulers and contributing much to the wealth of men in commerce, while itself being a third element that “has become a dwelling place of demons” and a persecutor of “prophets and of holy ones.”—Rev. 18:2, 9-17, 24.
Ancient Babylon was outstandingly noted for its religion and its defiance of Jehovah
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Ancient Babylonian religious concepts and practices are found in religions worldwide
“Egypt, Persia, and Greece felt the influence of the Babylonian religion . . . The strong admixture of Semitic elements both in early Greek mythology and in Grecian cults is now so generally admitted by scholars as to require no further comment. These Semitic elements are to a large extent more specifically Babylonian.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (Boston, 1898), M. Jastrow, Jr., pp. 699, 700.
Their gods: There were triads of gods, and among their divinities were those representing various forces of nature and ones that exercised special influence in certain activities of mankind. (Babylonian and Assyrian Religion, Norman, Okla.; 1963, S. H. Hooke, pp. 14-40) “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato’s] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
Use of images: ...
Belief regarding death: “Neither the people nor the leaders of religious thought [in Babylon] ever faced the possibility of the total annihilation of what once was called into existence. Death was a passage to another kind of life.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, p. 556.
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FACT:
At death a person ceases to exist
“LOOK out,” wrote the apostle Paul to Christians living in the latter half of the first century C.E. What was he warning against? “Perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men.”—Colossians 2:8.
Despite Paul’s warning, from the middle of the second century C.E., some Christians began using concepts borrowed from ancient philosophers in order to explain their beliefs. Why? They wanted to be accepted by the educated people of the Roman Empire and thus make more converts.
Justin Martyr, one of the most famous of these Christians, believed that God’s Spokesman had manifested himself to Greek philosophers long before the arrival of Jesus. According to Justin and like-minded teachers, the contribution of philosophy and mythology to Christianity made this form of religion truly universal.
Justin Martyr’s form of Christianity became very successful in gaining converts. However, the adoption of one myth led to the creation of others and produced what is now commonly believed to be Christian doctrine. To expose these myths, compare what the following reference works say with what the Bible actually teaches.
A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said, “Lord, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like. “The Lord led the holy man to two doors.
He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew which smelled delicious and made the holy man’s mouth water....
originally posted by: iammrhappy86
The Old Empire is symbolized by the Snake.
Its remnants are scattered and crumbling, but its advocates yet rule.
Far too long we have been kept in the dark from the nature of our True Selves; we are immortal spiritual beings.
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originally posted by: whereislogic
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Christendom: almost 2.4 billion adherents
Islam: 1.9 billion
Hinduism: almost 1.2B
Buddhism: 500M
Chinese traditional religion: almost 400M
They all teach it. So how are they kept in the dark again regarding this myth? I'd say they're kept in the dark about the fact that it is a myth/false story that spread out from Babylon and therefore a defining clue for determining which religions are part of Babylon the Great.