What would your goals be?

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Some may be convinced they have some inner secret knowledge of how reality works and what the universe is. But at the end of the day its just what they believe, rather than know.

Its not really much different to a fanatical christian, whose convinced themselves the bible has all the answers.

I think this is total BS. What more and more people are convinced
of everyday. Is that we have been lied to on many levels for
centuries. To the point we don't even know who we are anymore.

And whole groups of the lied to are fine with that. Because they're
lazy and afraid the actual truth will mean they can no longer be
an un Godly, ungrateful, spoiled little bastard, know it all. Parroting
the same lies they've been told by others. That also have a problem with
the Creators rights to his own creation. And thereby not with holding
over his authority. We are so much more than people like you.
Completely forget the lies you've been told. They're the wax that
shines stupidity. You know nothing of who you are and you never will
as long as you're in denial. Fanatical is believing the most obvious lie out
there because it just makes life more convenient for ya. Don't work like
that at all. Ever.

Of the many conspiracies in popular culture and on abovetopsecret , how many do you people think are about the occult /religion/spirituality/non natual aliens/est ?

I think that most of them.
And the few that are not , are either misinfo and ignorance based or real (snowden , mk ultra est).

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Some may be convinced they have some inner secret knowledge of how reality works and what the universe is. But at the end of the day its just what they believe, rather than know.

Its not really much different to a fanatical christian, whose convinced themselves the bible has all the answers.

I think this is total BS. What more and more people are convinced
of everyday. Is that we have been lied to on many levels for
centuries. To the point we don't even know who we are anymore.

Not at all BS. Pretty much right on. If you encounter someone who says he has the answer, he's very likely wrong. His evidence is anecdotal and interpreted by himself. Calling someone a liar assumes he knows he is lying and that somehow you know he is. I doubt it. The problem is people you call ignorant think you are.

a reply to: schuyler

The problem is people you call ignorant think you are.

No that isn't a problem. Because I'm not ignorant enough to paint
a whole swath of people as "Fanatical". Just because they don't
think like I do. But on the other hand we're all ignorant enough to
be lied to. And we have been. Some just catch on quicker. While others
are quite comfortable believing the lies they've been told. No two ways
about it.

a reply to: schuyler

On a grand scale, we know what we are subjecting ourselves to, before we incarnate here. That’s the point of memory loss on arrival. There would be no point otherwise.

This reality, which houses our very short lives, is meant to be polarizing on every level. What do you learn from an easy paradisiac lifetime?

I know it’s controversial, but the ‘Hidden Hand - Window of Opportunity’ thread, really opened my eyes to this, when I read it in 2012.

Before that, I was full of so much hatred and discontent for the world I believed ‘TPTB’ created. It helped me understand that life is a journey. One that’s meant to have obstacles.

If we didn’t have this oppression on us, I truly believe the world would be a much easier place. But hey, it’s what we came for — the roller coaster ride. We just don’t believe we have our seatbelts on in this one; and it feels too real.

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: schuyler

The problem is people you call ignorant think you are.

But on the other hand we're all ignorant enough to
be lied to. And we have been. Some just catch on quicker.

Generally... I just assume that anybody who claims they have all the answers are full of s# and quite possibly a “fanatical”.

But what would I know? You’re obviously far more woke than I could ever hope to be.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

But what would I know? You’re obviously far more woke than I could ever hope to be.

Man I gotta tell ya amigo. That really stunk. lol Oh wait let me
do what I do!

Gee do you really think so?

Cmon lighten up.

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

But what would I know? You’re obviously far more woke than I could ever hope to be.

Cmon lighten up.

Mate, i’m Already light! Totally light... light as a feather even!

Everybody knows.. lol.

a reply to: Randyvine

Imagine yourself privy to the whole world as it lay docile before your
power.

Okay.

Now imagine the only people you can trust are those who have
also gained such immense power.

How do you know you can trust them? Is this like a script for a crime-drama-mystery piece?

Would you hesitate to form an alliance with others that share your unique fortune in life?

Yep! Because my unique "fortune" is UNIQUE, and I believe in it. Why would I need to trust them?

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Hey don't go float'n away on me!

a reply to: VeeTNA

How do you know you can trust them? Is this like a script for a crime-drama-mystery piece?

Are you being obtuse or you really can't imagine a single reason?

Perhaps you're familiar with the concept of having an ally?

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: schuyler

The problem is people you call ignorant think you are.

No that isn't a problem. Because I'm not ignorant enough to paint
a whole swath of people as "Fanatical". Just because they don't
think like I do. But on the other hand we're all ignorant enough to
be lied to. And we have been. Some just catch on quicker. While others
are quite comfortable believing the lies they've been told. No two ways
about it.

How do you know? From where did you get this knowledge that you've been lied to? You are sounding pretty "fanatical" to me. I just wonder why you are so sure of yourself. Why have you "caught on quicker"? Is this a special ability those of us who are more ignorant just lack?

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: schuyler

On a grand scale, we know what we are subjecting ourselves to, before we incarnate here. That’s the point of memory loss on arrival. There would be no point otherwise.

I'm inclined to agree with you. At least, that's the party line. But I don't have to like it! :-)

a reply to: schuyler

Is this a special ability those of us who are more ignorant just lack?

Negative, I already answered that.

How do you know?

You having to ask this question makes it impossible for me to tell
you.

From where did you get this knowledge that you've been lied to?

Well it all started in 1963. And I've been seeing lie after lie my
whole life ever since. But I'm not gonna hold your hand and show
you a bunch of arguing points. Not when you have to pay attention
and find out for yourself anyway. Far as I'm concerned you can choose
to be blind or a seeing eye dog either one. It's up to you.

I hope it's okay if not everybody sees the world like you do?

I'm inclined to agree with you. At least, that's the party line. But I don't have to like it! :-)

Wha my good man I absolutely hate it!

a reply to: Randyvine

Are you being obtuse

No.

or you really can't imagine a single reason?

A reason to trust people in positions of power equal to mine?
Yes, I can easily imagine a reason: My own experience would be compared to anyone else's idea of what we should do..

Perhaps you're familiar with the concept of having an ally?

*sigh*

No, I'm only eight years old. School-yard bullies are my friends.

a reply to: VeeTNA

Well then how about you answer the question I posed in
the heading? For the sake of nothing more than manners?

a reply to: Randyvine

Imagine yourself privy to the whole world as it lay docile before your
power. Now imagine the only people you can trust are those who have
also gained such immense power. Would you hesitate to form an alliance
with others that share your unique fortune in life? Or would you begin to
consider the possibilities of your obscene fortune along the same lines
as any Godless human being?

To what point would amassing a gigantic fortune result in you searching out
first immortality? And second a world populated by only those you can trust?
And would you not look to minimize the threat against you? By eliminating the
need for those who you deem only necessary for yourself and those like you?

Thru automation and AI I think anyone would. Do you see how the timing of
everything is coming together all at once. We are becoming obsolete exponentially.
We face no greater threat than the wants and desires that manifest in the human
heart. Because far to much is never enough. Life extension and security would
definitely be on the agenda. Wouldn't you agree?

No. I wouldn't agree.

a reply to: VeeTNA

No. I wouldn't agree.

Easy peasy

a reply to: Randyvine

So...you're satisfied with that answer?

originally posted by: VeeTNA
a reply to: Randyvine

So...you're satisfied with that answer?

Well what do you want another question? What would your goals be?

a reply to: Randyvine

What would your goals be?

If I had immense power and could see everything?? My goal would be to convince everyone to treat others the way they want (or would want their beloveds) to be treated.

Roof, food, shelter, clothing, clean water, health care, education.