Why they are coming for the guns

originally posted by: sprockets2000
It’s pretty obvious to me we all know there is no white boogey man but if they ban lots of popular guns the kind of guns one might use to fight a revolution it’s going to radical a bunch of people they’ll have their domestic war but what they have not thought of is this

They sent a generation off to war myself included and now they are going to send a new generation to kill that previous generation but I don’t think it’s going to go as smoothly as they think that new generation doesn’t have twenty years of combat experience

Or or or.. none of this happens and we see these conspiracies as they are, crazy.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: slatesteam
Your maybe not old enough to remember what the likes of Thomas Hamilton did to a Dunblane Primary School near Stirling, the deadliest mass shooting in British history.

Or a nation coming to here senses and changing her gun laws.

The gun laws in Britain were already strict enough to stop the likes of Thomas Hamilton ever owning a gun. Hell, there was enough allegations against him to stop him running boys clubs. Alledgedly his own paedo ring, providing little boys for the masons around that area. The same masons/police that got him that handgun because he was a well known nut.

That case has dirt all over it, how many years have the files been locked away for? 50 years?

a reply to: Debunkology

Not anywhere near 50 years, only about 25 years ago it happened.

en.wikipedia.org...

Think most people who reside on the island are pretty sorted with the stance and tact we have in where our gun control laws are concerned.

We don't want nor require firearms available to the masses in the same or similar manner to the USA, they are simply not required.

As to the weapons Hamilton used in the horrendous incident, im not sure who it was the precured them for the nasty wrong'yin if im honest.

originally posted by: Debunkology

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: slatesteam
Your maybe not old enough to remember what the likes of Thomas Hamilton did to a Dunblane Primary School near Stirling, the deadliest mass shooting in British history.

Or a nation coming to here senses and changing her gun laws.

The gun laws in Britain were already strict enough to stop the likes of Thomas Hamilton ever owning a gun. Hell, there was enough allegations against him to stop him running boys clubs. Alledgedly his own paedo ring, providing little boys for the masons around that area. The same masons/police that got him that handgun because he was a well known nut.

That case has dirt all over it, how many years have the files been locked away for? 50 years?

Dirt?

Kind of reminds me of this person: criminalminds.fandom.com...

She claims it was a false flag thing done by the government. She was psychotic. "Truthers" generally are, imo. At the very least delusional.

Just accept back then laws weren't as they were now and people can get away with things.

a reply to: fencesitter85

Ah, the evil NRA accusations finally appear...was wondering when it would.

No, what's driving gun sales is that fact that people are beginning to see a possible need for one. How, you ask?? They look out the window, or watch the "protests" burning down whole sections of cities where they live. Or the very real possibility of someone deciding what's yours is, in reality, theirs, and decide to come and get it--BAMN. Personally, in such a situation, I prefer to have an argument to hand to dispute that claim.

I'm driven because I can, certainly not because of anything the NRA says, or does. My membership lapsed years ago, and I've no interest in re-joining anytime soon.

NRA driven?

I could just as easily say your opinion is driven by the Brady Anti-gunners.

a reply to: sprockets2000



Well then, that Decides It . War It Is ...........

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Debunkology

Not anywhere near 50 years, only about 25 years ago it happened.

LOL, I know when Dunblane happened, I know people that were in the school when it happened.

I wrote how many years have the files been locked away for? 50 years?. Not "when did it happen?"

Are you not aware that the files have been sealed from public view?

It's actually 100 years. None of the public are allowed to see the official files relating to the case until 2096.

originally posted by: andy06shake
As to the weapons Hamilton used in the horrendous incident, im not sure who it was the precured them for the nasty wrong'yin if im honest.

Rumours in dunblane that he had a whole arsenal of weapons, which he acquired off his freemason police buddies. Thomas Hamilton was a known pervert and weirdo.

originally posted by: andy06shake
We don't want nor require firearms available to the masses in the same or similar manner to the USA, they are simply not required.

Dunblane is surrounded by estates were people shoot deer and pheasants. The same people that owned Rifles and shotguns back then still do now. Yet talk to the common folk and they think that all guns are banned, which is totally not true.

The establishment can do what it wants, it's the law abiding common citizens that take the hit.

originally posted by: Soulece
Dirt?

Kind of reminds me of this person: criminalminds.fandom.com...

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Ha. Why don't you come to Dunblane and ask about the Dunblane massacre. I bet you 99% say it was a coverup.

Also, 99% of people that live in Dunblane are nice people. But it does make me laugh, the internet is a strange place. People like yourself not having a clue about this area.

I also find it strange that a member of a conspiracy forum would call "truthers" delusional. haha You're on the wrong forum buddy.

originally posted by: Debunkology

originally posted by: Soulece
Dirt?

Kind of reminds me of this person: criminalminds.fandom.com...

.

Ha. Why don't you come to Dunblane and ask about the Dunblane massacre. I bet you 99% say it was a coverup.

Also, 99% of people that live in Dunblane are nice people. But it does make me laugh, the internet is a strange place. People like yourself not having a clue about this area.

I also find it strange that a member of a conspiracy forum would call "truthers" delusional. haha You're on the wrong forum buddy.

I am on the wrong forum. I used to come here when I was 21, a decade ago. I was very into conspiracies. Then I realized I was a dumbass. Now watching how this site has devolved and the iq has begun dropping, I just meme now.

a reply to: Debunkology

Probably best not top start off with "LOL, I know when Dunblane happened" then given the very tragic nature of the massacre.

There are always going to be the need for guns on places like country estates and farms, for pest control and game keeping purpose, but these weapons are generally stored properly, and under lock and key, when not in use, or they are supposed to be.

That don't mean we need them any where near our housing estates, or anywhere else, in our towns, or on our streets, where law abiding common citizens reside or otherwise imho.

Christ, just imagine the queue for the Kebab shop, after the Pubs come out at the weekend?

Cagney & Lacey would be scraping them off the streets by the 1000s.

We don't need more guns over here, we canny behave as it is ffs.

a reply to: andy06shake

Anyone who thinks that US like Second Amendment Rights would be good for the UK must be an absolute, stark raving lunatic and have no understanding at all of UK culture, society and life.
Even the vast majority of criminals have no desire whatsoever to own guns.

Its equally true that UK style gun control laws would be a total disaster in the US and would only result in carnage the length and breadth of the nation - that's not to say that something doesn't need to be done about the level of gun related deaths, exactly what I have no idea.

As for Dunblane; I've always understood the 100 year D-Notice had to do with Hamilton's links to high profile nonces in Scotland?

a reply to: Freeborn

I'm not sure about the D-Notice Freeborn but i don't imagine your reasoning to be to far off the mark.

Certainly something they wish to remain hidden surrounding his connections to other nefarious high profile wrong'yins further up the ladder.

a reply to: sprockets2000

Why? Because you can't gain complete control over the deplorable's without them first being disarmed. Ask Hitler.

originally posted by: Soulece
Then I realized I was a dumbass.

Well you said it.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Probably best not top start off with "LOL, I know when Dunblane happened" then given the very tragic nature of the massacre.

Oh please

originally posted by: andy06shake
There are always going to be the need for guns on places like country estates and farms, for pest control and game keeping purpose, but these weapons are generally stored properly, and under lock and key, when not in use, or they are supposed to be.

That don't mean we need them any where near our housing estates, or anywhere else, in our towns, or on our streets, where law abiding common citizens reside or otherwise imho.

Dunblane is a town, quite a few people own shotguns and rifles. And long barrelled pistols. Like I said before the law was strict enough already to stop the likes of Thomas Hamilton owning a gun in the first place. The new laws just squeezed the common law abiding citizens owning certain guns even more.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Anyone who thinks that US like Second Amendment Rights would be good for the UK must be an absolute, stark raving lunatic and have no understanding at all of UK culture, society and life.

Of course the USA is a different country altogether than the UK in that regards. They also have the First Amendment, which we don't.

The handgun ban applies to England, Scotland, Wales, but not Northern Ireland.

Scotland is the worst of all countries in the UK in terms of a socialist nightmare. Needing a gun licence to even own an airgun. Not allowed to buy alcohol before 10am and after 10pm. Sugar tax, the added alcohol tax which laughably makes alcohol drinks more expensive in Scotland than the rest of the UK, even though it's already too expensive compared to other countries. Scotland really is pathetic in this regards. The same Scots who want independence love these draconians laws. Yet they want to be "FREE", haha pull the other one.

a reply to: Debunkology

I dont love all those taxes and i want independence.

So theres that theory right up in the air. LoL

Dunblane may well be a town where quite a few people own shotguns and rifles, surrounded by farm lands after all, but they will have licence for such and good reason for ownership.

What's your problem with Scottish people or freedom for that matter Debunkology?

The place is what it is, good and bad points, like every where else.

Put it this way i would rather be considered a socialist than a Tory, so there's that. x

Edit: Should probably add needing a gun licence for an airgun is indeed somewhat overkill, on par with the likes of requiring a TV licence for instance, mad bastards that we are. LoL

originally posted by: Debunkology

originally posted by: Soulece
Then I realized I was a dumbass.

Well you said it.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Probably best not top start off with "LOL, I know when Dunblane happened" then given the very tragic nature of the massacre.

Oh please

originally posted by: andy06shake
There are always going to be the need for guns on places like country estates and farms, for pest control and game keeping purpose, but these weapons are generally stored properly, and under lock and key, when not in use, or they are supposed to be.

That don't mean we need them any where near our housing estates, or anywhere else, in our towns, or on our streets, where law abiding common citizens reside or otherwise imho.

Dunblane is a town, quite a few people own shotguns and rifles. And long barrelled pistols. Like I said before the law was strict enough already to stop the likes of Thomas Hamilton owning a gun in the first place. The new laws just squeezed the common law abiding citizens owning certain guns even more.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Anyone who thinks that US like Second Amendment Rights would be good for the UK must be an absolute, stark raving lunatic and have no understanding at all of UK culture, society and life.

Of course the USA is a different country altogether than the UK in that regards. They also have the First Amendment, which we don't.

The handgun ban applies to England, Scotland, Wales, but not Northern Ireland.

Scotland is the worst of all countries in the UK in terms of a socialist nightmare. Needing a gun licence to even own an airgun. Not allowed to buy alcohol before 10am and after 10pm. Sugar tax, the added alcohol tax which laughably makes alcohol drinks more expensive in Scotland than the rest of the UK, even though it's already too expensive compared to other countries. Scotland really is pathetic in this regards. The same Scots who want independence love these draconians laws. Yet they want to be "FREE", haha pull the other one.

That was a meta comment based on the conspiracy nutcases on this website. I'm suspicious you may fall into that category but I don't know you well enough yet.

originally posted by: Soulece
That was a meta comment based on the conspiracy nutcases on this website. I'm suspicious you may fall into that category but I don't know you well enough yet.

In truth.

I believe Dunblane was a massive coverup based on people I know.

As for other conspiracy theories, I believe 9/11 was an inside job. Absolutely. Building 7 being the smoking gun.

I'm with you about this forum falling apart though, it became way too political. Content itself has become poorer.

originally posted by: Debunkology

originally posted by: Soulece
That was a meta comment based on the conspiracy nutcases on this website. I'm suspicious you may fall into that category but I don't know you well enough yet.

In truth.

I believe Dunblane was a massive coverup based on people I know.

As for other conspiracy theories, I believe 9/11 was an inside job. Absolutely. Building 7 being the smoking gun.

I'm with you about this forum falling apart though, it became way too political. Content itself has become poorer.

Okay, I like you now. You're aware. I would like to see why there would be any cover up with the Dunblane situation. It does not seem big enough to need any covering up. The guy was mentally unhinged and completely sick with a side of being pure evil.

a reply to: Debunkology

Ile entertain the notion there was more to 9-11 than meets the eye, Building 7, indeed being rather a large point of contention.

It's been done to death all the same around these here parts and will only bring about arguments that cannot be proven.

Must be something more to the Dunblane massacre hence the D-Notice, what's your thoughts there, based on what the people you know have said?