Texas loves socialism when it comes to weather

a reply to: mikell

Unlike Northeastern states where the unions pushed the assistance out because the assisting linemen weren't unionized, most southern and midwestern states will take the help from wherever it comes from.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: JAGStorm
thats not really socialism, socialism is about the means of production, not receiving help for a situation you aren't prepared for.

Like healthcare? Nobody plans on getting cancer, but in America it's usually a bankrupting situation.

It's called having insurance.... but government regulations have so perverted the industry that many can't afford it, it is inefficient, and lacks innovation.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: JAGStorm
thats not really socialism, socialism is about the means of production, not receiving help for a situation you aren't prepared for.

Like healthcare? Nobody plans on getting cancer, but in America it's usually a bankrupting situation.

That's why you carry health insurance. I know it's not fun to pay for, but if you do, it will generally cover. Funny how my mom, who is by no means wealthy, has had cancer twice now and has not gone bankrupt.

I'm pretty sure disaster relief has nothing to do with worker control of the means of production (what socialism actually is).

As long as power is coming back on, people are warm, and people support the infrastructure and grid workers. A solution can be addressed after.

Is this is a socialist thing? It's tough to say, reaching out to a governing body that is filled with corrupt crony capitalists wanting a state to come crawling to them to fix their problem isn't very socialist. In a socialist society the state of Texas would have their own emergency fund, the feds wouldn't need to dangle relief infront of their face.

Lots of hard working people in Texas, whom I am sure know an obvious solution to what has caused this. Maybe if the end of the Keystone pipeline didn't end at the gulf of Mexico to be refined and shipped elsewhere; were to take that energy and shift it inwards, the resources back to it's own people, this mess wouldn't be an issue.

a reply to: JAGStorm

here's some food for thought for you, America is a mixed economy and has been since before socialism was even a thing

a reply to: strongfp

Keystone Pipeline? What is this Keystone Pipeline you speak of? It was canceled.

I suppose there is also this to consider - since a good portion of this "socialism" comes in the form of mobilized Nat. Guard and the like, other countries also appreciate our "socialism" when they have natural disasters too since we end up sending our military disaster relief teams overseas to dig out people from earthquakes and every other manner of natural disaster ... just like we end up helping our own.

a reply to: ketsuko

Only the part that makes money for Biden's handlers is allowed. The XL portion needs to be corrected towards the West coast.

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

I am a guy that tries to stay prepared, not full doomsday prepper but weather or power issues I am good for quite a bit of time.

The news media likes to portray anyone that preps as a nut case, they routinely talk about how nothing bad is going to happen, Joe biden wont lie to us, the electrical grid is fine etc.

Lot of folks get off work and turn on the news and eat it up, so when the system breaks (lets be honest how often does south texas get snow and ice? even a prepper probably was caught off guard) it breaks hard.

a reply to: Irishhaf

lets be honest how often does south texas get snow and ice?

Often enough to know that it's a possibility and even likely every couple of years.

Do people think it's just hot year round here? Texas has winters. Yeah they aren't Chicago winters... but they can be pretty gnarly. And yeah, people are generally unprepared for it.

That's been the story for decades. Hasn't changed. No amount of climate change articles and reassurances from politicians is going to drastically change the normal patterns around here.

So once again... people need to wake up.


How many people have a Panini press and a Vitamix blender collecting dust in their cabinets?

vs

How many people have a generator or water and food stores?


Excuses excuses. I'm not even close to being a "prepper" but you won't catch me with my pants down in the Texas winter.

my question is what do you call it when the feds hand out billions upon billions of aid to OTHER COUNTRIES...not a member of the United States?
Seems since the US states fund the feds, they can get help when needed...other countries? Do they fill the fed coffers?

a reply to: Zrtst

what do you call it when the feds hand out billions upon billions of aid to OTHER COUNTRIES

Aid... it's called aid.

Your response is a big reason as to why I think climate controlling technology is extremely important not just on Mars but here as well. I didn't elaborate in my post on another thread but if we create technology to reduce warming through what is essentially atmospheric terraforming we need to also have the ability to increase warming. If we can also manipulate local weather there's a good chance we could reduce global hunger and regional conflicts rather than creating a system of dependency on handouts. It would be interesting to see all of Africa and the middle east made plentiful and a lush green.

I don't really support either side in the climate debate but I do see where the technology to alter the climate is extremely valuable and more productive than just simply producing green tech with dirty sources.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: JAGStorm

Hey so much for global warming, the planet has been getting warmer for century's ever since we came out of the little ice age.
en.wikipedia.org...

Before that for century's the climate had been much warmer, so warm in fact it sparked a population boom in Scandinavia and brought about he Viking age, but just before that there was a cold spell around the latter years of the Roman period.

We are in a period GEOLOGICALLY called the Quaternary Glaciation, in other words the whole planet is actually IN AN ICE AGE and has been for about 4 million years according to those in the know (or so they claim - though there whiskers don't look white enough for me to fully believe them).

This is divided between warm (interglacial like today) periods and cold (Glacial) periods that we wrongly call the Ice Ages (We the whole thing is one big ice age the Quaternary).

But supposedly we are OVERDUE for going back into an ice age but here is the question, it was WARMER than today before the last major glaciation began and we still have some heating up to do before we match that and that warming probably stopped the ocean circulation system that regulates global temperature back then when nearly all the ice melted into the seas and made them less salty, this in turn made the northern hemisphere colder as the warm ocean currents that usually warm us up in winter were no longer circulating and this in turn meant glaciers suddenly grew, very fast and it got so cold the snow no longer melted in summer until much of Europe and North America were under about 2 miles and more of ice.

The ocean got saltier as all that fresh water was now frozen on the land, were we live today was cold, too cold and people moved to were the sea side then was hundreds of feel lower in land that is now under water and the ocean currents began to circulate again until something triggered the end of the last Glaciation and put us into this warm period.

We now know that the sun goes through hot and cold periods, solar maximum's and solar minimum's and that the sun has a weather system were sun spots can also affect it's output of energy and heat.

It all really boggles the mind but to my mind the carbon points scheme is a scam, global warming is being blamed on current economy's so as to milk them for money and control the global finances AND the only real damage we are doing is CFC's and other Ozone depleting chemicals and all that plastic crap we are pouring into the ocean's but CO2 is not really the problem it has been made out to be, more CO2 actually triggers more tree and plant growth - though it can also lead to algal bloom's on the sea which are toxic to sea life.

(in other words that Guy you had over there what was his name - Trump - was right about protecting your Job's and economy and the only real problem is chemical and especially plastic waste - oh and Monsanto crap washing into the water table and into the sea is really - really bad but the greenhouse gas argument, sorry I am on the side of the climate sceptics there, yes there is Global warming and yes people DO contribute but not as much as we are being accuse of it is other pollutions that are the real problem)

a reply to: JAGStorm

Same thing happens when hurricanes hit Texas. It's called Americans looking out for each other.

originally posted by: Zrtst
my question is what do you call it when the feds hand out billions upon billions of aid to OTHER COUNTRIES...not a member of the United States?
Seems since the US states fund the feds, they can get help when needed...other countries? Do they fill the fed coffers?

That’s foreign aid isn’t it? A bit of a sweetener before their resources are raped in most cases.

a reply to: LordAhriman

if America adopts universal healthcare it'll be a disaster, might work elsewhere but not here, its something no one will understand until they see it themselves, Americans are cheapskates and love exploiting people and legal loopholes to find a profit anywhere they can, we'll find a way to make free services not so free eventually.

Might have something to do with people being complacent their entire lives.

Bury major utility lines. #, pine trees have been moving further and further north for the last couple of decades.

We've had years of evidence that things need to change in our infrastructure to meet changing environment demands, but nope. Just cry on Twitter when you're power lines collapse during to high winds and freezing rain.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Its a once in 30 year event - foolish and wasteful to buy and maintain equipment or spend mega bucks to upgrade grid for such rare events.

Premise of socialism is misdirected and doesn't meet food for thought level, not even close.

a reply to: Phoenix

According to Global Warming ... it shouldn't have happened at all.




Btw, look upon what Biden's "green energy" future will bring to us and weep. At least part of this need for disaster aid is because of wind turbines being too frozen to work.