In light of the Capitol Police death from the 6th, has the narrative changed?

It sucks that I need to preface this post with a common sense disclosure, but idiocy makes it that way. All of those who used violence and fear to breach the Capitol were wrong, violence isn't the answer here, and it should not have been then.

But the one death in that mayhem that the media seems to fixate on is that of Brian Sicknik. He was first said to have been beaten with a fire extinguisher, it turns out, that's not the case at all. Yet, we still have those in charge using the verbiage to indicate the officer was killed due to that riot.

"He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again," she said of the Jan. 6 Capitol riots that resulted in the deaths of five Americans, including a Capitol Police officer.

-Nikki Haley
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She was talking about Trump and his actions. That isn't what this is about though. That is another argument.

Once you take away the death of Sicknik, what are we left with? An unarmed woman who was shot, another who was trampled, and two stress related deaths that weren't caused by any ONE individual. It sure makes the events of that day look different.

Perhaps we should pay more attention to this officer's death and also the two other officers who committed "suicide" in the days after the riot.

And the term "insurrection", seems to be a misnomer, due to nobody being charged with that crime to date. It's looking like this was a play on emotion to do one thing, and it failed. What is your opinion on this?

Yes

a reply to: network dude

My opinion, is a faction in the government, populace and even posters on this forum, tried to use a corpse(s) to push their twisted desires.

They've been called out on it and they toss back word salads.

But ultimately, just like those who falsified accusations for the #MeToo movement, no one is punished. Because the ones who should be punished, aren't the targets.

So in the end, I'm left with the bitter taste of a spiteful, abusive spouse, loved one, or significant other back tracking and trying to pin the fault on the innocent.

It does change the narrative.... but when have you ever seen leftist acknowledge their narrative was wrong even in the face of evidence to the contrary?

They will use him as a martyr even if the facts say otherwise.

a reply to: network dude

Yes, the narrative will change now.

The facts never change, unfortunately for the delusional lefties.

Now it'll be the bearspray caused it, but we can't find any evidence of that. Just believe us...cuz insurrection.

Oh the narrative IS changing. Impeachment isn't going to work so they going for a screwed up interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
Oh the narrative IS changing. Impeachment isn't going to work so they going for a screwed up interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

I'm familiar with the 14th....but I can't possibly imagine how they could interpret it to screw Trump.

What's their angle?

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Question for you, Brother: in your other thread, you found numbers that were hard to get. Did you by any chance come across actuary tables for a million randos on any given day?

I recall the crowd estimate being a million or a million plus. There's gotta be a statistic for how many people out of a million die for any random cause.

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My opinion is the media and ruling power now wanted to use this event as a reichstag fire incident to seize absolute power.

I mean this event was used to put Washington D.C. in a military style take over. We need fencing and 25,000 personel to protect us from domestic terrorist.

I ask you now where are all the domestic terrorist?

side question. since al quieda and Isis are not a thing anymore, can we roll back the patriot act, warrantless wire tapping, TSA, NSA, And department of homeland security?

a reply to: Snarl

I never caught that number, but given the cause of 2 out of the 5 being health related deaths, and nothing at all to do with the riots, with 2 of the others related by a crowd stampede, and one being shot while unarmed, and possibly assisted to her death from that one Antifa guy, leaves the one police officer who we were initially lied to about with regard to his COD, and it's not clear we will get a factual COD on him at all.

originally posted by: American-philosopher
a reply to: network dude


My opinion is the media and ruling power now wanted to use this event as a reichstag fire incident to seize absolute power.

I mean this event was used to put Washington D.C. in a military style take over. We need fencing and 25,000 personel to protect us from domestic terrorist.

I ask you now where are all the domestic terrorist?

side question. since al quieda and Isis are not a thing anymore, can we roll back the patriot act, warrantless wire tapping, TSA, NSA, And department of homeland security?

Well said

a reply to: network dude

and it's not clear we will get a factual COD on him at all.

Probably not. And, on top of that, he was cremated before he was laid in honor at the Capitol Rotunda.

They gave him a burial at Arlington Cemetery, too, at the request of Democrat Rep. Elissa Slotkin from Michigan. Here's a little info about her:

Although the congresswoman is a lifelong native of Michigan, she is no stranger to the New York metro region. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which took place during her first week of graduate school at Columbia University, Rep. Slotkin knew that national service would define her career.

She was recruited by the CIA to be a Middle East analyst and has devoted her career to protecting the United States from national security threats. In her role at the CIA, Rep. Slotkin worked alongside the U.S. military during three tours in Iraq as a militia expert.

In between her tours in Iraq, Rep. Slotkin held various defense and intelligence positions under President Bush and President Obama, including roles at the White House and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

www.tapinto.net...


At least his family didn't have to pay the funeral costs.

a reply to: queenofswords

I have no issue at all calling him a hero. And I am glad he got recognized as he did. I wish all fallen officers would. That doesn't change the facts, they remain factual.

a reply to: network dude

What happened to defund the Police?

I'm struggling to keep up with who the "bad guys" are.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: queenofswords

I have no issue at all calling him a hero. And I am glad he got recognized as he did. I wish all fallen officers would. That doesn't change the facts, they remain factual.

These people must think we were born yesterday...

a reply to: network dude

I don't have a problem calling him a hero either. That's not the point.

Something happened to him sometime after leaving the event and the next night around nine o'clock or so.

But, his death was used by the Democrats for political theatre. He was an outspoken Trump supporter, btw.

My question is what did he know about the pre-planning of a staged riot and were Dem power players concerned about what he knew.

Did they arrange for the Rotunda honor and the Arlington burial to cover up something. Those are legitimate questions, not necessarily accusations. They knew he didn't die of blunt force trauma with a fire extinguisher. But, they went with that story anyway to throw off the scent, imo.

a reply to: queenofswords

I think it's called 'Virtue Signalling'.

Insurrection with the only bullets flying by whoever shot Babbit.

Meanwhile they literally faked a crime and faked evidence.

Those are grounds for disbarment and impeachment.