New theory how capitol police officer Brian Sicknick died

originally posted by: Bloodworth
3 capital officers dead. 2 suicides...something isnt right.

And who is the puppet master in all this , the Democrats.

That BLM who was on tape speaking to some girl.

She tells him, you were right, you were right.

He said I couldn't speak about it.

That is evidence of prior knowledge.

Yes,,the Democrats made people storm the place..DERP

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Bloodworth
3 capital officers dead. 2 suicides...something isnt right.

And who is the puppet master in all this , the Democrats.

That BLM who was on tape speaking to some girl.

She tells him, you were right, you were right.

He said I couldn't speak about it.

That is evidence of prior knowledge.

Yes,,the Democrats made people storm the place..DERP

Why was a BLM member leading trump supporters?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: panoz77

What matters and what you should be asking yourself is would this guy have died that day if it weren't for all the Special Olympians who rioted and stormed the Capitol. If the answer is 'no' then someone(s) are culpable for homicide.

It looks like he died of a blood clot. And there zero correlation between blood clots and mace.

So........ no. Nobody is culpable.


This is from the mudpit thread.

originally posted by: MetalThunder
More Questions than Answers thats for sure ....

‘This political climate got my brother killed’ — Family of police officer and military vet killed in Capitol riot demands answers

“He texted me last night and said, ‘I got pepper-sprayed twice,’ and he was in good shape,” said Ken Sicknick, his brother, as the family drove toward Washington. “Apparently he collapsed in the Capitol and they resuscitated him using CPR.”

But the day after that text exchange, the family got word that Brian Sicknick had a blood clot and had had a stroke; a ventilator was keeping him alive.

“We weren’t expecting it,” his brother said.

As apparently premature news of Sicknick’s death spread in law enforcement circles, the U.S. Capitol Police Department remained silent, including no response to an early request for confirmation from ProPublica on Thursday evening. The family learned from reporter phone calls that something was wrong.

“We have not gotten any calls,” Ken Sicknick said when first contacted. Brian Sicknick was the youngest of three siblings, all boys. “We’re kind of overwhelmed right now. You guys are getting reports of his death before I even got anything.”

Larry Schaefer, who spent 34 years on the force before retiring last year and knew Sicknick, said Wednesday’s breach of the Capitol was unfathomable until he saw it on his TV screen.

“We handle demonstrations on a regular basis,” Schaefer said. “We’re prepared for this kind of stuff. We hold people back in a perimeter. We’re set up for mass arrests, to load buses of people away.”

He said he blames department leaders for the tragedy. Under pressure from congressional leaders, Chief Steven Sund of the Capitol Police and two other security officials have resigned.

And the coroner has clearly stated that blunt force trauma played no role.

www.cnn.com...



There is really nothing to hang this on, apart from coincidence.

(Unless you're a conspiracy theorist and think he might have been assassinated in order to drive the narrative. ... On ATS of all places!)

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

He got the Covid vaccine just prior to dying.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
It looks like he died of a blood clot.

You have a link to the ME's report?

Are the two Capitol Police officers who ...er...killed themselves afterwards also considered as part of the death toll?

Another DC police officer commits suicide after Capitol riot

nypost.com...

CNN article all the way back on Groundhog Day admits that investigators were having trouble making a criminal case because they have no proof that the officer was even injured at the Capitol. They don't even have proof that he was maced.

Investigators are struggling to build a federal murder case regarding fallen US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, vexed by a lack of evidence that could prove someone caused his death as he defended the Capitol during last month's insurrection. Authorities have reviewed video and photographs that show Sicknick engaging with rioters amid the siege but have yet to identify a moment in which he suffered his fatal injuries, law enforcement officials familiar with the matter said.

But, even though they have no evidence, they opened a Federal murder investigation...

Soon after Sicknick died on January 7, prosecutors in Washington opened a federal murder investigation, dedicating a team inside the US attorney's office to build out a case, authorities have said.

But all the news media were telling us that he had been murdered immediately after the man died.
Seems a bit fishy to me.

One possibility being considered by investigators is that Sicknick became ill after interacting with a chemical irritant like pepper spray or bear spray that was deployed in the crowd. But investigators reviewing video of the officer's time around the Capitol haven't been able to confirm that in tape that has been recovered so far, the official said.

They went to mace because there were instances of it being used there.
There was a woman shot inside the building, so there were guns there too.... maybe they want to try that next... no wait, he had no injuries.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: alphabetaone

Firstly EVERYONE will die anyway, at some point. So stupid rebuttal on your part #1.

No, my point was that he may have had some other underlying medical condition that would have killed him anyway. A ticking time bomb, so to speak. Untreated high blood pressure, arteriosclerosis or a blood clotting issue.

Secondly, because of your assertion, were that to be argued in a court of law, then the onus is on the lawyer making the claim that "he would have died anyway" to prove that on that day at that time, he would have died. So, stupid rebuttal #2.

In the United States, the onus is on the prosecutors to prove to a jury that a defendant is guilty. The defense saying that the decedent may have died of some other underlying cause could be backed up by presenting the cop's health records, whether he was overweight, etc... for the jury to look at when making their decision. It would be to create doubt in the jury that the defendant (which there isn't one) killed the cop.
Funny that, no person is accused at this point, and the cause of death was a stroke that was NOT preceded by a blow to the head.
As it is now, there is no cause for the stroke that he suffered. People have strokes. My uncle died of one years ago, he was sitting at the breakfast table and keeled over backwards... with no imaginary fire extinguisher hitting him in the head, as in the way this story began.

Lastly, what the actual hell are you talking about? Hospital?

For this one, you would have needed to read the post to which I was responding.

Yeah. In order for manslaughter or any kind of negligent homicide to be charged, there has to be some way you could possibly foresee the outcome.

If I push someone 10 feet back from where they are standing, and then a small meteor falls from the sky and kills them while they're standing there, the fact I moved them 10 feet doesn't make it my fault.

(The odds of getting hit by a meteor would be the same if I hadn't moved them. It's only in hindsight that the place they were moved to is known to be less safe than the place they were initially.)


Mace has no track history of causing blood clots.

Yes or no, did one of the rioters among the crowd use or deploy bear spray against DC capitol police?

That individual, by letter of law used a chemical weapon against law enforcement. They should be charged.

Eta...

There's for sure one dead body, a homicide (babbit), that absolutely occurred amongst the commission of many crimes, multiple cases of assault and battery against officers, and attempted murder against officers( the kid with a bat and beating the cop with a flagpole).

There should be a few long sentences given. Everyone there wasn't a terrorist but some were.
All because they believed a New York billionaire.

originally posted by: panoz77
It appears the first "suspect" is no longer the "murderer". Remember the fireman who hit Sicknick with the fire extinguisher? Yeah, that was BS.

According to CNN this morning, they are now "narrowing down suspects" and think he had an adverse reaction to bear spray. Now, recorded deaths due to bear spray, mace or pepper spray are extremely rare and usually only if the person has some sort of breathing condition like severe asthma. There is NO indication of blunt force trauma. So now, it was bear spray that killed Sicknick. LOL, yeah OK


www.foxnews.com...
"Exactly one month since rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, fallen Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick’s official cause of death has not been released and no one has been charged with his death. "

www.dailymail.co.uk...
"How Capitol cop Brian Sicknick's death remains a mystery as FBI re-examines footage - amid rumors he had reaction to bear spray"

So it appears since the autopsy results showed no blunt force trauma, they need to find another "reason" that Sicknick died and fast. Maybe he was struck by lightening caused by Trumps "storm".

2.27.2021

Even to this day, officer Sicknick's cause of death is still being determined.

Capitol Police Statement yesterday: twitter.com...

Coverup being attempted? This is reminiscent of Jeffry Epstein's alleged death.

originally posted by: panoz77
It appears the first "suspect" is no longer the "murderer". Remember the fireman who hit Sicknick with the fire extinguisher? Yeah, that was BS.

According to CNN this morning, they are now "narrowing down suspects" and think he had an adverse reaction to bear spray. Now, recorded deaths due to bear spray, mace or pepper spray are extremely rare and usually only if the person has some sort of breathing condition like severe asthma. There is NO indication of blunt force trauma. So now, it was bear spray that killed Sicknick. LOL, yeah OK


www.foxnews.com...
"Exactly one month since rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, fallen Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick’s official cause of death has not been released and no one has been charged with his death. "

www.dailymail.co.uk...
"How Capitol cop Brian Sicknick's death remains a mystery as FBI re-examines footage - amid rumors he had reaction to bear spray"

So it appears since the autopsy results showed no blunt force trauma, they need to find another "reason" that Sicknick died and fast. Maybe he was struck by lightening caused by Trumps "storm".

Monday, April 19, 2021

There was another Democrat-generated theory of hope declaring that officer Sicknick was killed by a flag-pole, in addition to a fire-extinguisher, along with Bear spray.

FINALLY THE TRUTH IS FORCED INTO PUBLIC VIEW

The medical coroner finally released Brian Sicknick's cause of death today...approximately 45 days after he died.

Sicknick died of NATURAL CAUSES: www.cnbc.com...

Congress may have set a precedent by shutting down to attend the funeral of a Capitol Police officer who died of natural causes.

They (and the liberal News Media) wanted so badly to believe that Brian Sicknick was murdered at the hands of a Trump supporter, to counter the murder of Ashli Babbitt by a (still unknown to this day), Capitol Police Officer.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: panoz77
It appears the first "suspect" is no longer the "murderer". Remember the fireman who hit Sicknick with the fire extinguisher? Yeah, that was BS.

According to CNN this morning, they are now "narrowing down suspects" and think he had an adverse reaction to bear spray. Now, recorded deaths due to bear spray, mace or pepper spray are extremely rare and usually only if the person has some sort of breathing condition like severe asthma. There is NO indication of blunt force trauma. So now, it was bear spray that killed Sicknick. LOL, yeah OK


www.foxnews.com...
"Exactly one month since rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, fallen Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick’s official cause of death has not been released and no one has been charged with his death. "

www.dailymail.co.uk...
"How Capitol cop Brian Sicknick's death remains a mystery as FBI re-examines footage - amid rumors he had reaction to bear spray"

So it appears since the autopsy results showed no blunt force trauma, they need to find another "reason" that Sicknick died and fast. Maybe he was struck by lightening caused by Trumps "storm".

Monday, April 19, 2021

There was another Democrat-generated theory of hope declaring that officer Sicknick was killed by a flag-pole, in addition to a fire-extinguisher, along with Bear spray.

FINALLY THE TRUTH IS FORCED INTO PUBLIC VIEW

The medical coroner finally released Brian Sicknick's cause of death today...approximately 45 days after he died.

Sicknick died of NATURAL CAUSES: www.cnbc.com...

Congress may have set a precedent by shutting down to attend the funeral of a Capitol Police officer who died of natural causes.

They (and the liberal News Media) wanted so badly to believe that Brian Sicknick was murdered at the hands of a Trump supporter, to counter the murder of Ashli Babbitt by a (still unknown to this day), Capitol Police Officer.

State funeral for death by natural causes. Priceless.

Is that "jumping the shark" or "jumping the gun"?

originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

He got the Covid vaccine just prior to dying.

Certain versions of the vaccine actually have been linked to blood clots.

www.nature.com...

originally posted by: carewemust

Monday, April 19, 2021

There was another Democrat-generated theory of hope declaring that officer Sicknick was killed by a flag-pole, in addition to a fire-extinguisher, along with Bear spray.

FINALLY THE TRUTH IS FORCED INTO PUBLIC VIEW

Just in time for the public to have moved on. And not hear about it.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: panoz77

The guy’s own family came out a few days after and said he didn’t die from anything that happened at the Capitol. He didn’t die from being hit on the head and they asked the media to stop saying it.

12.6.2022

For some reason, a medal ceremony was held today for Officers who failed to protect the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

The family of one of the officers who died of "natural causes" the day after the Capitol was breached (Brian Sicknick), refused to shake hands with Senator Mitch McConnell, and Congressman Kevin McCarthy, during the ceremony.

Surreal Awards for Failure: www.cbsnews.com...

Meanwhile, (still) no mention by the News Media or Democrat leaders, of the Air Force Veteran brutally murdered for trespassing on that day. No mention of Pelosi's goon Michael Byrd shooting Ashli Babbit in cold blood, inside the U.S. Capitol building on Jan 6th 2021. The ONLY person murdered on that day.

a reply to: carewemust

That event today was another typical Pelosi/Schumer staged s#tshow to degrade Republicans nationwide. The 2 McC's were unwilling scapegoats sucked in. Democrats seem to be reverting to the old exit tricks like when WH staff removed all the "W" keys from keyboards before Bush moved in 🤡

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: carewemust

That event today was another typical Pelosi/Schumer staged s#tshow to degrade Republicans nationwide. The 2 McC's were unwilling scapegoats sucked in. Democrats seem to be reverting to the old exit tricks like when WH staff removed all the "W" keys from keyboards before Bush moved in 🤡

They should have held the ceremony before Democrats lost the House!

There might not have been a RED WAVE on November 8th, if they had the Medal Ceremony added to Paul Pelosi being traumatized by the hammer-wielding illegal alien, prior to 11.8.