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China, the Rothschilds and the Global Rise of Communism

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posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 09:28 PM
Like many others have posted, ATS has been pretty muddy in recent years. Rather than complain about it though, i've decided to write the kind of thread that got me into ATS in the first place.

So, this thread's going to be about the funding of the Chinese Communist Party by the Rothschild's, the continuing investment of organizations funded by the Rockefeller's, Rothschilds and other connected families in communist China, the establishment of a Rothschild central bank in China, how this ties into the current us election and current events, and how essentially, the 'cabal of democracy' that, admittedly, played a large role in the results of the 2020 US election is the same cabal currently funding the CCP and is currently trying to engineer yet another conflict where they profit by funding both sides.

To start with, i'm going to say, finding reasonable information about this was hard. Much of it is mixed with some fairly crazy stuff. The only sources I chose for this thread are those that the themselves provide reasonable, verifiable sources and lack any of the afore mentioned 'crazy stuff.'

I also want to say, before it comes up, this has nothing to do with religion. It won't be brought up in this thread, i'd appreciate if anyone commenting on this thread leaves religion out of this. It doesn't matter what their religion is, what matters is this family and their associates have used their unimaginable wealth and political influence over the centuries to shape the world in ways that give them ever more wealth, power and control over humanity.

Part 1 The Rothschilds and the Origins of Communism

The Rothschild connection to communism goes way back. Karl Marx, considered the father of modern communism, was himself, a third cousin to the Rothschild family. Socialism had already been on the rise in various European countries as a response to the industrial revolution and the conditions it created.

In 1869, Mikhail Bakunin, a Russian socialist unaware of Marx' relation to the Rothschild family had this to say about Marx and and his ties to the Rothschilds::

“This world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of Rothschild on the other. This may seem strange. What can there be in common between socialism and a leading bank? The point is that authoritarian socialism, Marxist communism, demands a strong centralisation of the state. And where there is centralization of the state, there must necessarily be a central bank, and where such a bank exists, speculating with the Labour of the people, will be found. “

In 1937 the NY Times Published:

Rothschild and Marx were brothers in blood and in spirit. National Socialism's victory struck the first real blow to an international of this form and recalled the nations to their real duties."

Marxist Communism is not socialism, communism as proposed by Marx was yet another method by which the Rothschilds would institute a central bank in a country that would exist to enslave the population through debt.
...apparently links are broken on ats...I couldn't get the next link to load and had to use archive.

In 1861, President Lincoln approached the Rothschilds for funding to fight the civil war. They agreed, but only at a 24%-36% interest rate. Lincoln refused and created his own debt free currency that became legal tender for private and public debts.

By 1862, $449,338,902 worth of debt free money was printed and distributed, that same year, the Times of London, a Rothschild owned publication printed this:

“If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origin in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of civilized governments of the world.

The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”

In 1864, president Lincoln became aware of the Russian Tsar's problems with the Rothschild's attempt to subvert the government and institute a central bank under the guise of communism. Lincoln asked the Tsar for help during the war and Russia sent fleets to San Francisco and New York with threats to intervene if the British, Spanish or French interfered in the war.

The next year Lincoln stated:

“I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me, and the financial institution in the rear. Of the two, the one in my rear is my greatest foe.”

Later that year, Lincoln was assassinated.

In 1867, Prussian Minister, Otto Von Bizmark, had this to say about the American Civil war:

“The division of the United States into two federations of equal force was decided long before the civil war by the high financial power of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economical and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world.

The voice of the Rothschilds predominated. They foresaw the tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies, indebted to the financiers, to the vigorous Republic, confident and self-providing. Therefore they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus dig an abyss between the two parts of the Republic.”

In 1881 president James A. Garfield, assassinated after only 100 days in office stated two weeks before his assassination:

“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”

From these events we can see two clear fronts the Rothschilds are working towards, profit and the domination of America through funding of the civil war, stopping any and all attempts at a debt free currency and removing those who stand in their way.

On the other side of the world, Marxist Communism was being used to influence the Russian people against the Tsar and his resistance to a Rothschild central banking system in Russia.

In 1913 they accomplished this goal in America with the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank after engineering and in 1918 they accomplished their Russian goals throught the Bolshevik revolution and the slaughter of the Tsar and his entire family.

In 1919 the Times of London reported:

“One of the curious features of the Bolshevist movement is the high percentage of non Russian elements among its leaders."

Continued Below
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posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 09:28 PM
Part 2 The Birth of the CCP Through Rothschild Organizations

The Rothschild presence in China goes back to the 1830's when the set up a small gold and silver trading business in China and the Rockefeller's presence in China goes back to 1863 when the Rockefellers were selling kerosene to China. In 1913 the Rockefeller Foundation founded the China Medical Board. The foundation had also become heavily invested in education in the country. By 1933 the Rockefeller foundation had spent over $37 million in China. The foundation:

believed its most useful role would be “stimulating Chinese leadership” to define the fundamentals.

In 1935 they funded a rural reconstruction initiative which ran until 1946. In 1947 the program ended due to Japanese invasion.

The People's Bank of China was founded 1948. It became China's central bank in 1982 but prior to that it was still the only bank in China and oversaw both central banking and commercial banking operations.

In 1949 Chinese Communist Party led by Chairman Mao Zedong proclaimed the foundation of the People's Republic of China under the rule of the Chinese Communist Party and spent several years using violence and oppression to solidify his rule over China.

The roots of Mao go further back however 1903 and Yale .

Yale Divinity School established a number of schools and hospitals throughout China that were collectively known as ‘Yale in China.’ It has since been shown that ‘Yale in China’ was an intelligence network whose purpose was to destroy the republican movement of Sun Yat-sen on behalf of the Anglo-American Establishment. The Anglo-American “Establishment” hated Sun, because he wanted to develop China. On the other hand, they loved the Chinese communists because they intended to keep China backward, and were committed to the production of drugs. . One of ‘Yale in China’s’ most important students was Mao Zedong.

The Yale in China schools were funded by by the Rothschild's through their foundations and later the Rockefeller foundation. The Yale schools helped to build up communism in China. At the same time, the above foundations were also funding Soviet communism.

In 1953, Rothschild banks were the first foreign bank to establish relations with China after the communist revolution. In 1972 president Nixon and John D. Rockefeller took a trip to China Yale Daily issue 96 published this about it:

William F Buckley was not the only Yale figure connected with the presidential trip to China” (of course referring to the then recent trip to China of President Nixon) “without Yale support. Mao Tse Tung may have never risen from obscurity to command China. Jonathan Spence, professor of Chinese history, was the first to discover Mao Tse Tung’s connection with Yale. The Professor noted “In 1919 Mao, aged 26, was in Changsha, having finished his middle school education, he visited Peking and while there received a serious introduction to communist theory in Leeteuk Charles’ Marxist study group”.

Now, if he was to develop a reputation in socialist circles, he had to find a form to propagate his views. At this crucial point The Student Union of Yale and China invited Mao to take over the editorship of their journal. Mao accepted the position and changed the format of the student magazine. It would now deal with social criticism and current problems and focus on ‘Thought Reorientation’.

This visit had been preorganized through secret meetings between Henry Kissinger and Mao Zedong. Henry Kissinger was deeply involved with both the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.

“In Henry Kissinger, Rockefeller found a political operative with an international and domestic perspective similar to his. They first met in 1954 when Kissinger was appointed a director of the seminal Council on Foreign Relations Study Group on Nuclear Weapons, of which David was a member. The relationship developed to the point that Kissinger was invited to sit on the Board of Trustees of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. Rockefeller consulted with Kissinger on numerous occasions, as for example in the Chase Bank’s interest in Chile and the possibility of the election of Salvador Allende in 1970…(interestingly)…and fully supported his opening of China initiative in 1971, as it afforded banking opportunities for the Chase Bank.”

in 1973, George H.W Bush visited China as America's first diplomatic representative to China.

George Bush, the first US diplomatic representative to the People’s Republic of China back in 1973, was a member of skull and bones. So were his father, brother, son, uncle, nephew and several cousins.

That same year, despite the atrocities committed by the CCP the Rockefeller's had this to say:

“The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.”

Throughout the 1970's and early 1980's the Rothschilds and Rockefellers continued investing in China culminating in the the Rothschild's taking control of the People's Bank of China in 1982 becoming China's official central bank at the same time.

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posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 09:29 PM
Part 3: The Impacts Today from Rothschild Funded Communism on the World

Throughout most of the 20th century the Soviet Union was the global face of communism. Soviet communism was created and funded by the Rothschild family. Starting in the early 20th century however, the Rothschilds and their affiliates were slowly turning China into the 21st century face of communism.

By the early 21st century nearly every major American company had and R&D division in China.

“The phenomenal economic growth witnessed in China since Deng Xiaoping first declared China’s “A Open Door” policy in 1978 has led many to predict China’s certain emergence as an economic superpower in the early 21st Century. Indeed, China has followed a structured path toward gradual market reform of its still largely state-owned industrial sector, which has been transfused with increasing amounts of foreign capital and technology.

There have been numerous reports over the last several years, however, of US companies being “forced” to transfer technology to China in exchange for access to this enormous market. The purpose of his study is to assess the extent to which US commercial technology is being, in effect, “coerced” from US companies engaged in normal business practices and joint ventures in China in exchange for access to China’s markets. 

The Rockefeller's continue their heavy investments in the CCP to this day.

According to a review of the group’s most recent tax forms, RBF devoted $750,000 to the China Council for International Cooperation on Environment and Development, which has a "direct channel" to China's State Council, the highest administrative authority of the Chinese government. It is chaired by high-ranking CCP official Han Zheng, the vice-premier of the State Council. 

So what does this have to do with the 2020 elections?

As Time Magazine(itself funded by Rockefeller's) recently revealed, the outcome of the election was a direct result of a massive conspiracy by a cabal of multinational media corporations and industry.

A look through the list of Democrat donors as well as a look into the ownership of media companies in support of Democrats and communist policies will show it's the same people that are responsible for the existence of communist China, the same people responsible for the Bolshevik revolution and the Soviet Union, the same people funding both sides of world war 2 and the same people responsible for the creation of the Federal reserve.

The rise of China and global communism has been in the works now for over 100 years. The goal has always been the division and domination of the world's population. The current situation and growing division in America is a direct result of the machinations of this family and their large group of associates.

Their modus operandi has always been to fuel the flames by stoking hatred on both sides of a conflict they create, supplying both sides with the resources to kill each other and profiting off of the death and destruction they sow.

The only way to free the to destroy this system of debt slavery. The GameStop saga lately showed just how fragile their system really is. But we can't win by playing the game by their rules. We need to knock the whole table over and scatter their pieces across the floor.

Their power is imaginary, based on debt created by imaginary money. The solution has always been right there. The problem is anyone who tries gets assassinated or invaded and bombed back to the stone age. The Rothschild central banks are a literal cancer draining the life of humanity and the world. Left or right, rich or poor, it doesn't matter, they sit on the back of the world like a tumour, responsible for countless deaths over the last few centuries driven only by the goal of utter and complete domination of the entire planet.

The only way to truly free the world is to remove their influence and the new generation of billionaires who would follow in their footsteps. Their power exists solely through their control of the world's monetary systems through the global system of central banks and Fiat currency.

As long as those continue to exist and remain the basis of our society. It doesn't matter what politicians are voted in. As long as they exist, politics are a theater that exist only to give the slaves an illusion of choice.
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posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 09:43 PM
Thanks for posting.

Was America the real last true frontier of a govt. for its people?

posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 09:45 PM
The Rothschilds?

Not to be contradictory just to be contradictory, but do you recall all those boycott China thingamabobs? Yeah, those were from Americans telling everyone in America to stop buying stuff from China.

America (collectively) continues the funding of the CCP on a scale the Rothschilds could only wish for.

But not me. I buy American.

posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 10:04 PM
Interesting thread. Thank you.

I will have to do a lot of reading, etc before I have an opinion.

posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 10:07 PM
a reply to: Snarl

America (collectively) continues the funding of the CCP on a scale the Rothschilds could only wish for.

America's funding comes from money created by their bank. They own the federal reserve the literal source of America's money. All of America's money has come from them since 1913. America's money is their money.
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posted on Feb, 7 2021 @ 11:29 PM
a reply to: dug88

This could easily be the single most important thread created this whole year.

Nice one, Dug88!

And yet there are some regular posters here that will either ignore or denounce this information.

Have you noticed our little group within the group yet?

Someone will be around very shortly to try and derail this thread by responding to my reply, or have I just taken away their guilty pleasure by stating the obvious?

Very interesting S + F.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 12:57 AM
a reply to: 19Bones79
The solution is the same one i have been harping on for years on here. Close your bank account. Pay everything cash in hand. Just the cash part alone eliminates the 7.5 trillion dollars of ficticious money generated from electronic transfer fees very year. Well not all of it as institutional transfers of large volumes still occur.

But if only one in five stopped paying a third party to store their money and paid everything cash you would see a signifigant change in the tone of the banks. You may actually even see them become openly hostile and lobby for regulations penalizing cash transactions in some way.

Electronic transfer fees were the biggest and easiest way for these bankers to gain unlimited power. But they only have thay power because the individial voluntarily gives it to them.

I ditched my bank accounts six years ago and home internet connectikn 3 years ago. I do not voluntarily send the whole world my entire lifez worth of data and experiences which is exactly what anyone who frequently uses apps with permission to their microphone does. Many free apps demand these permissions for the sake of keeping the product free with targeted advertisement.

Thing is, all those companies have saved your conversations, your experiences, and your secrets. They package and resell your existence to other companies. Some of those companies use that to create a massive database about you and everything you have ever volunteered out of naievity and sell them to anyone with money to use as "opposition research" .

So if you were to wonder how so many could succumb to the CCP/CIA blackmail program in so many key positions, look no further than all those harmless "if the gov wants to hear me jack it 3 times a day let them have it" comments. Because alot of them never thought that it would be corporations and the Chinese agents that would in fact be the ones to listen to you rub one out. In the end, i guess they didnt want the world to hear them whack it, or perhaps something even more concerning.

That is why no internet connection comes into my home, and why any device that can receive wifi or any type of 'G' is stored in copper lined metal boxes until we use them.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 03:48 AM
Alright a thread worthy to read. I'll save it for later study.

This might be of interest to you too:

Most nations are fronts. I like this quote:

..great nations were simply the operating fronts of behind-the-scenes, vastly ambitious individuals who had become so effectively powerful because of their ability to remain invisible while operating behind the national scenery. Always their victories were in the name of some powerful sovereign-ruled country. The real power structures were always the invisible ones behind the visible sovereign powers."

- Quote from Buckminster Fuller's book, Critical Path

It makes sense - you can make anything happen and generate as much income as you want. At this point they are beyond income.

Also I did this post a while back:

The Cold War was a Fraud

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 04:50 AM
History is a shell game of teaching the world everything incorrectly. This keeps old animosities hot and relieves any pressure from those actually pulling strings. It has taken 50 years of studying history to understand this fundamental aspect of our world. I had inklings long ago but didn't know what to attribute them to. Like when Sandy Hook happened but the more I looked the more connections to China I kept finding. Yes, it's that bad folks.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 05:13 AM
a reply to: dug88

China hasn't been communist in almost 30 years. It has a thriving capitalist economy, one of the most diverse in the world. So how about we stow this nonsense about Marxism, it got old a long time ago.

Communism failed 50 years ago. Marxism is barely a thing.

What we're seeing is two things. Firstly whining snowflakes wanting the government to hold their hand once mommy tells that their house isn't a hotel And secondly some government finally understanding that if the poor get stuck in a poverty trap they will drag the rest of the country down with them, and that by giving them a boost it benefits everyone in the long run through reduced crime and drug use.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 09:54 AM
No matter how you want to slice this Pie....its Personal....this is the Elite vs the Poor......the Evil vs the Good.....the God fearing vs the Devil loving.....

There is only one solution.....first you remove the TV Stations and Radio they use to push their Propoganda.....remove them or remove their ability to own anything....there should be no conduits for them to touch the masses....remove every bit of their power in terms of money stocks Art gold land ...everything.... then have every Government sign a Treaty agreeing to never again allow Individuals or Groups of them masquerading as Privately owned Companies do GLOBAL level BUSINESS....NO MORE GLOBAL CONTROL.

The simple fact is that no Individual should ever be allowed to hold enough money or resources to tip the balance in their Community-State-Country-or Individual needs that much.....and once you die your resources die with you and are absorbed back into the passing your loot on to your Spawn.

MOney and Power by proxy encourage and allow Humans to enslave and control each feed off of each other.... time to change.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 11:40 AM
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Precisely my problem with this OP. The CCP operates a more or less free market economy married to the One-Party State and thus far more resembles a Fascist regime.

Mussolini, a leading member of the Italian Socialist Party (Partito Socialista Italiano) before World War I, became a fierce antisocialist after the war. After coming to power, he banned all Marxist organizations and replaced their trade unions with government-controlled corporatist unions. Until he instituted a war economy in the mid-1930s, Mussolini allowed industrialists to run their companies with a minimum of government interference. Despite his former anticapitalist rhetoric, he cut taxes on business, permitted cartel growth, decreed wage reduction, and rescinded the eight-hour-workday law.

Articles on Fascism most often focus on "Nationalism" style of Fascism. What we see rising in the world and the US today amounts to Global Fascism as promoted by the Global Elites.

In a sense, the Hall Mark of Fascist regimes is the marriage of the Party with Corporate Elites and their interests. Working with the Corporate Elites, the Fascist regime manages to both sieze power and maintain it by way of choking off any voice of opposition by co-opting the 'Free Press" with a Nationalized Press that only reports on and reflects the Agenda of the Party (sound familiar-CNN). At the same time, the Corporate Elites operate to both fund the Party and insure loyalty to the Party by the workers. Of course, the Corporate Elites include the Banking and Finance industries.

Today we see all of those same elements ascendant on the US Political landscape. The Party is supported by the most powerful Corporate Elites, the big Tech companies who are simultaneously embedded with the CCP. The MSM has become nothing more than the Voice of The Party, thus the Party has co-opted the so-called "Free Press" in cooperation with the Big Tech Corporate Elites. As a result, the US residents live enshrouded behind a Digital Curtain which is rapidly closing in around them. Fear is a major element in this assertion of control....obviously someone or some entity put the Fear in Fox who has dutifully succumbed to the Elites.

The final captstone was placed on this emergant Fascist Regime during the Obama/Clinton years when the Judiciary Branch and Federal Law Enforcement, Intelligence Agencies and the Federal Prosecutorial function was co-opted by the Party.

And the "other" Party? I would expect to see the "other' Party gradually subsummed into The Party as a sort of adjunct maintained to perpetuate the myth of a two-party system.

Dont get me wrong, The Party has managed to incorporate many of the mechanisms of Marxist movements and that philosphical inclination is seen in the emergance of Marxist principles in the Educational Systems. Thus for example the Educational systems have fully embraced the Hegalian dialectic as a mechanism for inculcating "social correctness" into the youth.

I honestly see no counter to this operation. It is simply unfolding as planned.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 12:02 PM
Communism, fascism, whatever; the name makes no difference. It's an autocratic group that imposes their will (which tends to be in line with corporate interests). Its completely undemocratic at any rate and the people live in privation and are ruled be fear one way or another. The masks are coming off and we are seeing the true nature of technocracy which is the proper term for every developed country. Technocracy is rule by "experts" (Gates, Fauci) who own the banks, the media and the government. Fly any flag you want you get the same results from these monsters.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 01:39 PM
Me wonders if the Security Systems, like facial recognition an what not, is actually American made, not Chinese. Nothing against China an there potential, but they too cheap to have vaccines an used hers immunity instead.
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posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 01:50 PM
a reply to: TonyS

I didn't want the op to be bogged down more than it was, I could write a whole thread on the Rothschild's connections to Friedrich Nietzsche and the creation of fascism also. They're two sides of the same coin being flipped by the same people with the same goal, put a central bank inside that country, control the supply of money, control the country.

Communism, fascism, they're all constructs created by these people to divide and conquer.

At the same time they were funding the Bolsheviks, other branches of the Rothschilds were funding the rise of fascism in Germany and Italy.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 04:14 PM
a reply to: dug88

I get that, I really do however I guess I see a distinction between the two that many overlook.

I think the best examples of a truly Marxist Communist enterprise are the USSR and Cuba. In both cases, the State siezed control of ALL the assets, privately owned and Corporate owned industries were siezed by the State. State owned t.v. and radio stations, state owned and operated factories, farms, mining and mineral extraction, oil companies.......utilities, dwellings, the lot of it and then it was run (badly) by the Central Government via local Councils. 5 year plans/production and construction goals were established and met (or somone went to the Gulag).

The Fascist model represents a Marriage of the State and Private Enterprise, the two locking arms and walking hand-in-hand toward the same goals. So for example, Nazi Germany didn't sieze Krupp or BMW or Thyssen or Bayer......but the Boards of those Corporations gleefully followed the Nazi Governments orders and filled its orders for war materiel all the while producing goods and services for the general public. Mussolini didn't sieze Fiat, but Fiat's board supported Mussoline and produced engines and the like for the Italian Army. Likewise, neither Fascist regime attempted to sieze farms and operate food production through a State Monopoly.

I see that as a huge difference. If I only had a choice between the two, I would take Fascism over Communisim any day of the week. Communism ALWAYS fails, (Venezuela) as commodity shortages stack up and people starve and the middle class flees. Capital flight and lack of foriegn currency reserves killed the USSR. The old refrain of the USSR was that no one individual mismanages as utterly as all mismange collectively.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 04:37 PM
a reply to: dug88

Brother we will liberate the masses once more.

Every day more read, more learn, and see the biggest lie in history and their enslavement.

They censor the internet out of fear, but history, and those who remember it are feared by them.

The center conservatives have shown they are too weak, and waiver to money from China and AIPAC.

Every day I see more people with the fire of rome burning in their eyes.

posted on Feb, 8 2021 @ 05:26 PM
a reply to: TonyS

Personally, I think both ideologies are totally flawed as both come from the same ultimate goal, control the population, profit off the people. I could care less whether it's a government or a corporation that's controlling me. Both are equally unappealing for exactly the same reasons.

If all wealth and power are concentrated in the hands of a few and people are left powerless and controlled, who gives a # who the few doing the controlling are?

The problem isn't which ideology they use to control people, the problem is they're.controlling people on a mass scale for profit.

China moving towards a capitalist system, while operating under the guise of communiam doesn't change that.

The Nazis and fascists working with private industry to accomplish their goals doesn't change that.

And the true communists overtaking all private business and nationalizing industry to accomplish their goals doesn't change that.

As long as the currency of those countries are controlled by private international banking interests, than the ideology of the puppet government matters little and can be swapped out at a whim to accomplish the same thing.

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