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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: The2Billies
Sorry comrade, I'm not looking to covert just yet. I'm not advocating the kind of equality you are talking about, I just had a moment of nostalgia that's all.
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
They dont want equality they want equity.
Joe Biden's Use of 'Equity' Over 'Equality' Opens New Front in Culture War
While equality means that everyone gets the same resources from government, regardless of their circumstances, equity seeks to address systemic and historical imbalances within society by distributing resources depending on individual need.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
While equality means that everyone gets the same resources from government, regardless of their circumstances, equity seeks to address systemic and historical imbalances within society by distributing resources depending on individual need.
Seems to me I've heard that before, but phrased a little differently ...
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." - Karl Marx
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: TzarChasm
equity is just the government playing favorites.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
Umm. I was addressing the concept of equality.
Which is the greater, the flute player, the violinist, or the conductor? Can the orchestra sound the same without any of them? And, what happens if they all decide that they no longer want to play the instrument they are so proficient at and we end up with flutist being conductors, violinists playing flutes, and conductors opting to be drummers before their big performance? If we treat one lesser than another, aren't we encouraging just that?
I am not saying that all occupations should be paid the same amount but I do question the standard we use to judge who is more deserving than whom, especially when it seems that it is those we most rely on that is deemed the less deserving and deciding they shouldn't even be paid enough to afford to survive.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
a reply to: TzarChasm
The problem is, who determines "ability" and "need"? The Government? Elected officials who received millions of dollars in campaign contributions?
Let me tell you how that works out.
People who try to work for a living to try to feed their families have the "ability" to pay taxes to the Government.
Bankers who crash the stock market have the "need" for those tax dollars to offset their losses.
Families who want health care have the "ability" to pay higher health insurance costs.
Multi-millionaires in Congress have the "need" for the best health care available for free.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
a reply to: TzarChasm
A star for making me laugh.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ketsuko
Ok, and what happens when the new teacher or conductor comes in and decides the first violin should be sitting in the back based on some bias he personally has, and the drummer should be really be the bass player because he is the biggest person in the band and will easily be able to handle it?
When it comes to people being able to play their own instruments (moving out of the band analogy and into careers and such) in life, I think it has gotten alot better since I was growing up.
To me, equality means that people have the same opportunity to choose their lifes path and pursue it, to reach their full potential. I don't think we have reached that yet. I also think we can pass a million new laws, change our constitution a hundred times over, and hand out an insane amount of money and still not reach it. Change is often as slow as a turtle crawling to his nest on a cold winter day for a nice long hibernation and patience is a virtue.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
a reply to: TzarChasm
A star for making me laugh.
I gather you believe in more drastic measures like insurrection and anarchy? Or did you have something else in mind?