Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

a reply to: IndieA


Thank you!

A very interesting read.


But still don't think they COULD supersede state election laws.

Maybe one of our resident legal experts could answer this part?


AND

That nobody WOULD do this because it couldn't possibly help anyone, regardless of the result.



MORE transparency is needed.

Using secret EO results in LESS transparency.



Destroying the usefulness of the evidence (ballots) forever.

No future audit of those ballots in the sunlight could ever be believed.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Thanks for the offer!

The way I read posts, I really do not pay attention to who the composer is. I look at the information. That's probably why I never get into arguments with people about personality issues.

I knew somebody said that they could drive over to Tucson to check on the doj plane, but I did not pay attention to who it was.

In that regard, I'm afraid Joe Biden and me are a lot alike.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: opethPA

I wouldn't put much info on Pennsylvania in this thread. It will be terminated once 399 pages are consumed. Start a new one. Will make it easier to keep track of PA the same way this thread enabled easy tracking of the AZ audit.

Good point.
I certainly don't want to derail the AZ thread on PA .
I'll create one and link it here then lets get some good meaningful discourse going on it.

Excellent! Thank you.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Thanks for the offer!

The way I read posts, I really do not pay attention to who the composer is. I look at the information. That's probably why I never get into arguments with people about personality issues.

I knew somebody said that they could drive over to Tucson to check on the doj plane, but I did not pay attention to who it was.

In that regard, I'm afraid Joe Biden and me are a lot alike.

Very funny!

I am exactly the same in that I make an effort to read every post before noticing who wrote it, but always do look at the user name to help put the post in context afterwards, and then decide how to respond.

I also couldn't care less about personality, as long as nobody is overly unkind to another user.

I do enjoy heated debates though.

And would HATE to spend so much time wading through msm to find things to post here like you do.

You have very unique ability in that area!

originally posted by: opethPA
Why do you think the NCLS are biased and corrupt to their core?

If you have to ask that, then you are beyond help.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: opethPA
So to be clear, you are claiming the NCLS are biased and the Arizona Central links are biased?

Biased? Definitely - but also corrupt to their core.

Sure just about every news org is biased ..CNN, TheGatewayPundit , take your pick.

Why do you think the NCLS are biased and corrupt to their core?

Because what started as a good first step a long time ago, is now being used as a weapon by democrats to help them prevent anyone from actually looking at the ballots.



Do you allow people to give you just any piece of paper when paying you the $1000.00 they owe?

Count 50 pieces of paper and call it $1000.00.

Or do you at least want the papers to look like 20 dollar bills?

So you have to at least look at them once to determine, right?

All of them, right?

Or do you only look at one of the papers?

2%

And the rest could be green crayon on walmart receipts.




Can I borrow a grand?

I have green crayons.

I'm trying to find some sources that talk about Democrats refusing Republicans the right to review the election results holistically. Do you have something I can read?

In general the lawsuits filed seemed to be more about the security of the 2.1 million ballots in AZ and how they were being reviewed vs blocking but I guess that comes down to which side of this equation you are on for perspective.

www.usnews.com...



In doing research it's interesting for people to see what the definition of Forensic is when speaking about election audits.
As CareWeMust , I think it was CareWeMust, mentioned earlier Forensic Audits are typically used in the Financial realm.

"Taking it a step further, the definition of a forensic auditing is “an examination of financial records to find any illegal financial activity,” while an internal audit is defined as “an examination of a company’s accounts or activities by its own accountants or managers.”

In the case of just the word forensic when talking about audits the last line seems to be most important, "The word “forensic” is often misunderstood in the context of an audit. Forensic simply means “suitable to courts of judicature or to public discussion and debate.”

www.eidebailly.com...


Another thing I keep reading is that the term "Forensic Audit" when dealing with election results is being misconstrued by people asking for such an audit to confirm the past election:

"Despite the report's release, there are still pushes to conduct additional audits of election machines in Michigan, or "forensic audits." But such a task would find little, if any merit of fraud and only further undermine confidence in elections, one national voting expert says.

A lot of the election-deniers have been falling back on this term 'forensic audit.' I think it's a really good question to ask them, 'Tell me exactly what a forensic audit means from your perspective,' because this term doesn't actually have meaning as most of these folks are using it," said David Becker, executive director and founder of the Center for Election Innovation and Research, during a Wednesday media briefing."

Calls for 'forensic audit' of election in Michigan don't have much merit, expert says = www.hollandsentinel.com...

Related to the Arizona Audits:

"Most certified auditors contacted by The Arizona Republic, including accountants, internal auditors, and forensic auditors, say this is not an audit — or at least it doesn't appear to be following the generally accepted standards for one, from the outside. "

Is the Maricopa County election audit truly an audit? Here's what professional auditors have to say = www.azcentral.com... lection/5212065001/

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: opethPA
Why do you think the NCLS are biased and corrupt to their core?

If you have to ask that, then you are beyond help.

Alright so you literally have nothing to add to this thread. Got it.

a reply to: opethPA


Search for 'recounts' instead of 'audits'.

Audit term only recently became vogue as way of demanding MUCH more transparancy and confidence that elections results accurately portray the wishes of all legitimate voters.



Not interested in debating definitions.

I want someone to actually look at the ballots.

Every time.

Everywhere.

Call the process whatever you'd like.




Arizona Republic is AzCentral.

This firm is THE source of anti audit propaganda.

And where msm gets their daily talking points on this issue.

Very little they say on the issue is NOT 100% BS.

originally posted by: opethPA
Alright so you literally have nothing to add to this thread.

Like everyone else, I'm just waiting on the results of the first real forensic audit of a Presidential Election and all down ballot races in the largest County in any State of the USA.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: opethPA
Alright so you literally have nothing to add to this thread.

Like everyone else, I'm just waiting on the results of the first real forensic audit of a Presidential Election and all down ballot races in the largest County in any State of the USA.

That's a neat and logical way to frame it.

Ninjas got the routers & splunk logs!

County backed down at last minute.

Agreed to provide everything requested by 6 month old subpoenas!




County also ended demand to replace election equipment as a result of audit.

100% Capitulation.

Maricopa County Just Surrendered!!!

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Here's a decent article explaining what happened today and what it means for the Forensic Audit at this stage.

Left Leaning, but decent: apnews.com...

From what was posted here yesterday regarding Friday's hearing, the results of the router and logs examination will be added, when they are known, to the final report. But the existing final report will still be presented in open-session on Friday 9.24.2021.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Here's a decent article explaining what happened today and what it means for the Forensic Audit at this stage.

Left Leaning, but decent: apnews.com...

From what I read about Friday's hearing, the results of the router and logs examination will be added when they are known to the final report. But the existing final report will still be presented in open-session on Friday 9.24.2021.

Correct.

Will not change the release date.

Set in stone on Thursday.

Will add any future information to the original report after that.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

From the AZ Republican party..

Arizona’s Full Forensic Audit report will be presented Friday, September 24th, at 1:00 PM on the Arizona Senate floor.

Livestream will be available for public viewing.

As always, we will keep you updated!

Source: twitter.com...

Also: twitter.com...

Is it your opinion that Friday is when you release something that's NOT earth-shattering, or something you want to keep out of the weekday news cycles?

originally posted by: carewemust

Very astute.

100% Democrat Surrender announced on friday evening.

Democrats had to squeeze out just one more news cycle of their propaganda BS before making it public that they had been bluffing all year.

MSM idiots are still trying to figure out how to spin this.

Timed to keep as many of the brainwashed from seeing in what little coverage there is, that their own democrat party was lying to them all year.

Will democrats Care this time?

a reply to: Boadicea


Maricopa County Surrender Agreement:

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The Woke won't like the phrase "special master"

Cheers

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

The Woke won't like the phrase "special master"

Cheers

Damn, just spit coffee!

They sure won't.



Just noticed that AZCentral has pulled ALL of the MANY pre-surrender audit hit pieces from their home page.

Didn't age well?

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Ninjas got the routers & splunk logs!

County backed down at last minute.

Agreed to provide everything requested by 6 month old subpoenas!

Yes! Finally we can see actual people obeying actual laws. I can't wait to see what they find on these routers. (Unless the county kept them stored next to some huge magnets?)

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

In that same vein, I don't think having a big unveiling of the Forensic Audit findings on FRIDAY Sept 24th, near the close-of-business, is a good idea either, unless the report confirms Joe Biden won Arizona.