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originally posted by: Hellas
a reply to: Lumenari
In Genesis 1 the Elohim (Gods) made all things.
It's just Elohim. Not the Elohim. So no plural
originally posted by: primalfractal
a reply to: neoholographic
There is certainly two separate creation stories for humanity in the bible.
The great ages of our evolution may well be represented, had not considered that before, sounds reasonable.
But I think it also relates to the cover-up of Adams first wife, Lilith.
Apple eater fell.
Never should have left her imo.
Everything is still in that same order.
originally posted by: AndyMayhew
There are two stories of creation in Genesis because when the book was written, there were two common variants of the myth and the compilers didn't know which was the true one, so they combined them. Likewise with the flood story.
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: AndyMayhew
There are two stories of creation in Genesis because when the book was written, there were two common variants of the myth and the compilers didn't know which was the true one, so they combined them. Likewise with the flood story.
Genesis 2 is elaborating on the creation described in Genesis 1. It is common even in today's literature to state the thesis and then go into more detail with the ensuing text.
originally posted by: AndyMayhew
No, they are two different stories (with different authors) edited into one narrative. That's Bible fact.
originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: Timber13
Everything is still in that same order.
Hmmm.
Not so much, chapter one tells about Creation and Man kind is created last.
Chapter two, animals are created after Adam. Then Eve is created last.
I believe God created a dominate animal called man on the 6th day. Male and female He made them and gave them dominion over the other animals. This may have been Neanderthals.
After the 7th day, Adam was created, a spiritual man, a son of God, and set apart from the rest of creation in the Garden of Eden.
Adam and Eve are eventually expelled from the Garden and are no longer separated from the non spiritual men.
This would explain where Cain found his wife and how he was able to build a city. He mingled with the non spiritual people in the world.
This also explains "as in the days of Noah" when the Sons of God looked upon the daughters of men and took them for wives.
originally posted by: AndyMayhew
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: AndyMayhew
There are two stories of creation in Genesis because when the book was written, there were two common variants of the myth and the compilers didn't know which was the true one, so they combined them. Likewise with the flood story.
Genesis 2 is elaborating on the creation described in Genesis 1. It is common even in today's literature to state the thesis and then go into more detail with the ensuing text.
No, they are two different stories (with different authors) edited into one narrative. That's Bible fact.
originally posted by: Quadrivium
I have wondered if the stories are different because they are different perspectives and events from two different groups of people.
Chapter one being the view of the "earthly man", created on day six.
In this version God is transcendent. He is above all, creates all and sets earthly men and women on their path to be fruitful and multiply.
Chapter two being the view of the "spiritual man", created after the seventh day and placed in the Garden. In this version God is not so distant. He walks and interacts with the spiritual man frequently. Once they are cast out, we begin seeing that a separation has occurred and God becomes more of a transcendent being once again.
Yet, throughout the old testament, God still has a one on one relationship with the most spiritual characters.
originally posted by: AndyMayhew
a reply to: whereislogic
What about our ancestor, homo erectus?
originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: whereislogic
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How long was Adam in the garden? Did he age in the garden?
originally posted by: whereislogic
Scientists often portray the final “stages” of “human evolution” as a progression from Homo habilis to Homo erectus to “modern man,” Homo sapiens. Two fossils found within walking distance of each other in Kenya, however, have now (since 2008) been interpreted as indicating that the two species Homo habilis and Homo erectus, thought to be human ancestors, lived at the same time. “Their co-existence makes it unlikely that Homo erectus evolved from Homo habilis,” states Meave Leakey, one of the authors of the report.