The reason the reaction to the 6th was so massive

On the 6th of January, it's said we had an insurrection. What happened is well documented. A massive gathering in DC of Trump supporters resulted in a small number of people entering the Capitol, and some of them broke windows and stole things. How it happened, who opened doors, who was Antifa as opposed to MAGA, isn't really important, the fact that some people did violent things is. They were wrong. All those who were violent need to be punished. Full stop.

But the reaction, or rather, over reaction was something we had never seen. Why would we need divisions of troops to protect the swearing in of Biden, who wasn't even going to be there either way? Well, it's because the full power of the people was realized.

No, nobody needed to bring their weapons, though some did. Nobody needed to enter the capitol, though some did. But what was realized is that when a crowd that big gathers, the crowd has the power. They could have done anything they wanted, luckily, most of them are level headed folks who are staunchly against violence. But make DAMN sure you don't back them into a corner.

The over reaction was due to a snap understanding of exactly what the 2nd was written for. And the canceling of Trump is due to realizing that he had the power to command so much more, but didn't. They need to make sure he never has that kind of power again, although I'm not sure it's even about Trump anymore. The people need to realize and understand that they hold the power, they can enact change, and the government needs to fear the people. That is what the 2nd amendment was written for. Explicitly.

It's my hope that we never have to make the decision to gather en-mass and show the government what true power looks like. It would be so much easier if they realized where the power lies, and toned down their actions.

a reply to: network dude

Some things got looted, a couple people shot, but a mostly peaceful peaceful Protest...
That would have been the headline if it was from the other side lol.

They know full well the power of those that were there that day. What they underestimated was their anger. For as long as I have been alive the right has remained calm and peaceful regardless of what went down or how they felt they were treated.

We don't generally run around tearing down statues, burning cities to the ground, harassing folks trying to live their lives, etc. We get mad, we get over it, then we get up and go to work the next morning because we have families to feed and jobs to work. We've taken our lumps and kept getting it. So they continue to take advantage. That's the reason they didn't have more security that day because they KNOW we don't fit that algorithm. They assumed like usual... they wouldn't need it. They coddle BLM and Antifa because they know what they do when they aren't appeased. Not the same for the right.

Not until the 6th. Then all hell broke lose. If the right had decided they wanted to burn the Capitol to the ground that day, it would have been burned to the ground.

They need the labels and the freakout to try and keep others from joining the growing number of folks that are still just as pissed as they were on the 6th. Yet they keep up the rhetoric. I don't think it's done. Not by a long shot. That's why they are trying so hard to paint it as terrorism, seige, insurrection, treason, etc. Labels clearly meant to stave off others joining. Same with the punishments that are being handed down.

All of it to say get back in your corner and continue taking it like you always have. The question is... will they or won't they.

originally posted by: network dude
It's my hope that we never have to make the decision to gather en-mass and show the government what true power looks like. It would be so much easier if they realized where the power lies, and toned down their actions.

Next time Pelosi is gonna order the troops to open fire.

Never get caught unprepared.
1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap – life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap–funerals are expensive.
3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
4. If your shooting stance is good, you’re probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.
5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.
7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.
9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on “pucker factor” than the inherent accuracy of the gun.
10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. Have a plan.
13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won’t work. “No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy.”
14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.
15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
16. Don’t drop your guard.
17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That’s how you live if hit in your “good” side.
18. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.
19. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
20. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.
21. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than “4”.
22. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. “All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket.” At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.
23. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.
24. Regardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.
25. Never be unarmed.

a reply to: network dude

I believe that is what they want you to think. They want you to think Trump has rallied the patriots, and we should be feared. Just they way they made us believe we had to fear Middle Eastern terrorist.

It will justify all those little restrictions they put into place, and all those freedoms they will remove. Will some people continue to fall for the ruse? Likely, and they will die in vain. They will be no more than martyrs for a cause that benefits those that created the game.

We complain about the two hour lines, being scanned, and having to remove our shoes to fly domestically. It is about to get worse, because we have been duped. We continue to rush down the wrong path and straight off the cliff.

We have proven time and time again, we really aren't as smart as we think we are.

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Yep. Because most had that restraint, it was "mostly peaceful". But as they continue to push, continue to agitate, I'm afraid they are going to push to test once again. And if the proverbial "WE", finally reach that breaking point, things will be what they will be. I hope I never see what that would look like.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

for years, the right has been demonized as gun nutters who could snap at any moment and kill everyone.
I used to believe that wasn't true. I still hope it's not. If that was to happen, what would stop it?
Who would stop it?

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
I believe that is what they want you to think.

two hour lines
being scanned
having to remove our shoes to fly domestically

I believe it's time for the existing rule makers to leave the stage.
I believe it's time to erase their rules and write reasonable ones.
I believe it's time for the previously elected ... to face the mob.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Yep. Because most had that restraint, it was "mostly peaceful". But as they continue to push, continue to agitate, I'm afraid they are going to push to test once again. And if the proverbial "WE", finally reach that breaking point, things will be what they will be. I hope I never see what that would look like.

Agreed. If the majority of us "snap" it will be devastating and I don't want to see it either. I really don't want my daughter to see it. I keep feeling like it may be too late. As if we are beyond the tipping point. I truly hope that I am wrong. Just feels like something is stirring in the wind. People seem to be overhwhelmed and are only waiting for that one spark.

People have lost their jobs, their health, their businesses, their families, and soon will likely lose their homes, cars, etc. When you take everything away from a man, he has nothing left to lose. When we have nothing at all left to lose, we are a danger to anything and anyone. This bubble will pop. Just a matter of time IMO.

a reply to: network dude

The over reaction was due to a snap understanding of exactly what the 2nd was written for

You don't need a 2nd Ammendment.

The peoples from many countries around the world have overthrown governments. The 2nd Ammendment is just words on a piece of paper.

originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Yep. Because most had that restraint, it was "mostly peaceful". But as they continue to push, continue to agitate, I'm afraid they are going to push to test once again. And if the proverbial "WE", finally reach that breaking point, things will be what they will be. I hope I never see what that would look like.

Agreed. If the majority of us "snap" it will be devastating and I don't want to see it either. I really don't want my daughter to see it. I keep feeling like it may be too late. As if we are beyond the tipping point. I truly hope that I am wrong. Just feels like something is stirring in the wind. People seem to be overhwhelmed and are only waiting for that one spark.

People have lost their jobs, their health, their businesses, their families, and soon will likely lose their homes, cars, etc. When you take everything away from a man, he has nothing left to lose. When we have nothing at all left to lose, we are a danger to anything and anyone. This bubble will pop. Just a matter of time IMO.

that is what scares me the most. When that happens, it will be a matter of when, not if.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude

The over reaction was due to a snap understanding of exactly what the 2nd was written for

You don't need a 2nd Ammendment.

The peoples from many countries around the world have overthrown governments. The 2nd Ammendment is just words on a piece of paper.

They are our words, on our paper. You do you.

Weird, here I thought it was because there was a subset of people there inside who were hell bent on stopping the electoral process while sending and receiving messages to obtain the location of elected officials including the VP with the intent to do harm or kill them as their messages state.

a reply to: network dude

Did Egypt need a 2nd Ammendment to oust the government in the spring uprising of 2011 ? No they didn't.

As i said, words on a piece of paper aren't the be all and end all of anything. Just a romantic notion.

originally posted by: frogs453
Weird, here I thought it was because there was a subset of people there inside who were hell bent on stopping the electoral process while sending and receiving messages to obtain the location of elected officials including the VP with the intent to do harm or kill them as their messages state.

was this plan to include the hundreds of thousands of others who were there and not entering the capitol? How were they alerted to the plan?

No mention of 5 deaths

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude

Did Egypt need a 2nd Ammendment to oust the government in the spring uprising of 2011 ? No they didn't.

As i said, words on a piece of paper aren't the be all and end all of anything. Just a romantic notion.

I'm not sure how else to say this, it's our paper, our rule of law, it's what OUR founders wrote, it's what I swore to defend and protect, and it's frankly, none of your #ing business. Sorry to be so blunt.

originally posted by: vonclod
No mention of 5 deaths

It's been mentioned a lot. Check the news. Any loss of life is stupid. For any reason.

a reply to: network dude

it's what OUR founders wrote

Written by traitors to The British Crown.

That holds you in good stead. then.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: network dude

it's what OUR founders wrote

Written by traitors to The British Crown.

That holds you in good stead. then.

The best ungrateful colonials there ever was. The British Crown would've owned the globe had they had their way. And we all know how that would've worked out.