Covid Conspiracies Endanger Life

We have all seen it, especially around ATS.

I'm talking about Covid-deniers or Covidiots.

I authored a thread the other day,, pointing out that British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson (or BawJaws as I prefer to call him) has said the new strain of Covid that is prevalent in the UK is more deadly than the original. The very first comment on the thread was stating that I was the problem, (not part of the problem, I was the problem. In fact this overexaggeration only served to highlight the desperation with which the poster attacked my post), though that poster got it wrong, they are, in fact, the true problem.

This is the story of Gary Matthew.

"Hard up and completely unknown", Gary came from a liberal background, he once made a living selling "Socialist Worker", not the sort of person who is part of London's anti-scientific Right.

He could never have been a Toby Young or Julia Hartley-Brewer. The Telegraph would never have let him write columns declaring with no evidence whatsoever that the common cold could provide “natural immunity” to Covid-19. Talkradio would never have paid him to shout that the “virus isn’t causing excess deaths any more” even as the corpses piled up in mortuaries. No local Conservative association would have thought of adopting Matthews in the hope he would become the next Steve Baker. None of them would have given him the time of day.

Charlie Parker, founder of the “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” claims that Gary Matthew cofounded the group with him, though it seems there is no trace of him in their online footprint.

One of his friends had this to say about him...

Gary Matthews fell headlong into a subterranean world haunted by vicious fantasies. But he wasn’t vicious himself. “I knew him since he was 19,” his friend Peter Roscoe told me. “He was a gentle guy. He wanted a better world. I am so sorry in recent times he became convinced that Covid was some kind of hoax.”

The article doesn't specify exactly where Gary picked up on the idea that Covid is a hoax but one thing his family are sure of.

The “hoax” killed him, his relatives said. He had a positive Covid-19 test and went home to isolate. He died, aged 46, alone in his flat in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, on 13 January.

Of course, his associate, Charlie Parker and his online clique (one assumes it is online since the only protest Parker has held was on the roof of a College, he was subsequently arrested, he was the only one there) have a different story to tell...

“The cause of death is currently listed as Covid-19,” Parker told his followers. “It is now the duty of those he has left behind to ensure that his name is not used to further this gargantuan fraud.” Parker hinted that Matthews had asthma and it might have killed him. (This is news to his family.) Others suggested he took his own life. I’ve seen screenshots of a WhatsApp conversation where a Shrewsbury conspiracist says he “could have been murdered” by shadowy figures – Bill Gates, maybe, or the head of an intensive care unit – because he was “part of the movement, one of us”.

Of course this is what you would expect. Tristan, Gary Matthews' Cousin tried, in vain to get him to obey the guidelines but Gary truly believed he had to carry on as normal.

It is worth remembering Matthews and not only because so many are dying around us without even a paragraph in their local paper to mark their passing.

And this is true. Gary is not the only case I've heard like this. I have a good friend who owns a piece of land I'm setting a workshop up on, we were discussing this 2 months ago and the night before he got a call from a childhood friend who was a Covid Denier.

His friend was calling from hospital, on video call, he looked deathly pale, the enormity of what was happening to him had just set in, after all he had just had to fill out a Do Not Resuscitate order. He had contracted Covid-19 and his organs were shutting down on him and he was finding breathing hard. He was 42.

(That was spooky, my friend who told me this story just called me for the 1st time in a week)

Whether this was accidently or deliberately released from a lab in Wuhan Provence or some mad bastid ate a raw bat Covid-19 is here and it's overwhelming Health Services around the world, hell, in London they've had to convert busses into ambulances to ease the strain on the NHS!

Last summer I was talking to a very good friend of mine who is a micro biologist, he's quite anti-establishment, not a fan of authority. He told me wear a mask, stick to the guidelines and you'll be fine. He got in touch last night to send me some photos he'd edited me into for a laugh and I asked him, "What's your opinion on Covid now dude?", he said "Man, just follow the rules an we be cool by nxt xmas. Its hard, but end in sight" I trust his take on it all.

I'll finish up with a quote from the article that I think is particularly true.
Stay safe folks and keep an eye on those around you!

On Gary Matthew's...

He deserved better than to have his life endangered by a flood of fake news – and so do millions of others.

a reply to: djz3ro

According to the Johns Hopkins COVID-19 statistics:

- There have been about 25 million cases of COVID-19 in the USA. In a country of about 330 million citizens, this represents about 1 person in 13 having had the virus.

- More than 400,000 people in the USA have died of COVID-19 in the last 12 months.

Surely "the penny must be dropping" for even the most dedicated deniers, by now?

If your going to speak about me at least quote me.Much more honest.

I have just went through 2 weeks of Coid-19 .
I am an old man with 5 of the 6 worrisome traits.
I had rather have this than my chronic bronchitis , and I have lived with that for most of my long years .
What saved me ?
I truly believe that it was due to me not going to the hospital .
BTW , going to the hospital with chronic bronchitis is a waste of time.
Nothing they can do.

a reply to: chr0naut

JHU stats for UK:

3,594,094 out of 66.65M with 96,166 deaths

originally posted by: glen200376
If your going to speak about me at least quote me.Much more honest.

Not sure what you mean.

a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

On the mend ?
I was never down....

originally posted by: glen200376
If your going to speak about me at least quote me.Much more honest.

Ah, you think I'm talking about you? Get over yourself, this was the 1st comment, not yours....

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

On the mend ?
I was never down....

Ah I thought you were ill for 2 weeks.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

On the mend ?
I was never down....

Ah I thought you were ill for 2 weeks.

Call it what you will.
I had Covid - 19

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

On the mend ?
I was never down....

Ah I thought you were ill for 2 weeks.

Oh puke. Just because one has a cold does not mean they're entirely down for the count. I've had many colds. Never was "on the mend" for most, just slowed down a bit. I was not down for the count with those.

Maybe it's just you. Not sure how bad off you are health-wise, but if Gothmog making it through a mild cold fine is a shocker and not what you expected, maybe the issue isn't the cold, it's your OWN health. If a cold is what licks ya, you ain't doing too good already.

Lung cancer liver cancer Silicosis cystic fibrosis and alot of heavy smokers the people in my inner circle all have had a positive covid test all still alive

So whall no one I know think its all fake not many think its much more than a bad cold

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

On the mend ?
I was never down....

Ah I thought you were ill for 2 weeks.

Call it what you will.
I had Covid - 19

Did you test positive?

Unless you were tested or had severe symptoms, how could you know if it was actually COVID-19 and not a standard cold?

Colds are still going around, too.

a reply to: Nyiah

It isn't my health I'm worried about, I've not been Ill (not even a day) in 13 years, and that was the 1st time since I was a teenager.

I have 2 people close to me with Fibromialgia, one also has Epilepsy and EDS these make them very high risk. I've made it my job to read as much about this as I can so I can come to an informed decision to protect those close to me.

Covid-19 isn't a cold, the cold is a type (or types) of Coronavirus but not all Coronaviruses are the common cold or flu.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Gothmog

Duly noted. I'm glad you're on the mend though.

On the mend ?
I was never down....

Ah I thought you were ill for 2 weeks.

Oh puke. Just because one has a cold does not mean they're entirely down for the count. I've had many colds. Never was "on the mend" for most, just slowed down a bit. I was not down for the count with those.

Maybe it's just you. Not sure how bad off you are health-wise, but if Gothmog making it through a mild cold fine is a shocker and not what you expected, maybe the issue isn't the cold, it's your OWN health. If a cold is what licks ya, you ain't doing too good already.

COVID-19 is different to a cold. Some of the milder symptoms are similar, but there are a number of pneumonic effects in many that go beyond a cold.

Let's be straight, there is a nasty, deadly virus doing the rounds that's said and done.
It's quite easy to cherry pick data like that. I'm sure you can come up with more stories like this, but just as easy there are stories in the opposite vein.
My friend and his wife, both paranoid about catching it, isolated for 2 months letting no-one in or near. A couple of weeks ago the both felt "off", went for a test and proved positive. How in gods name did they catch it????
My family. My eldest son got it just before Christmas, he has severe kidney failure plus other illnesses. No hospital, recovered. Next my youngest son gets it in January, no hospital, recovered. Then I got it at the start of March, admitted to hospital with viral pneumonia, 5 days, recovered. My wife has too many conditions, very vulnerable, gets it in April, no hospital, recovered.
How did we know we had it. Just so happens we were include in the Imperial College survey and they informed us that we all had had it.
Some numbers to play with. UK data yesterday deaths (notice within 28 days of a positive test and that don't mean died OF Covid) 1348. It just so happens that there are about 1250 hospitals in the UK. That equates to just over 1 death a day in hospitals.
Now you're going to start moving deaths about, like there are massive deaths in the cities and denser population areas. But that is a double edged sword cos if you move the deaths about like that it means there are a lot of hospitals that have had no deaths at all. Go figure.

a reply to: djz3ro

I authored a thread the other day,,

So you're butthurt, why not continue that thread?.......more Covid "the sky is falling"

Wasting space on ATS

A denier. Is that like a climate denier? Do these deniers deny that the virus is a virus? Or perhaps that it's a sickness? What exactly do the deniers deny?

I don't know anyone who denies the virus is real, but most of the people I know feel that the response to the virus was severely overblown and mismanaged on the global level. Which is completely different then what your OP is about. Having never met a "denier", I'm curios to learn more about them.

a reply to: djz3ro

He deserved better than to have his life endangered by a flood of fake news – and so do millions of others.

He also deserves better than to have his death used for cheap political points.

Why did this man -- and so many others -- not believe the government, the news media, and the medical industrial complex? Because they are not trustworthy. Whether it's the many many "facts' they tell us that turn out not to be facts, or the regular fleecing of our wallets by all three, we cannot trust what they tell us.

And when it comes to crisis and emergency situations, we see just how dangerous that is. Because even if they are telling the truth, we have no good reason to believe them. Including now. Especially now. We know we are not getting the whole truth from those with authority and power. We know that authorities are exploiting this health crisis for maximum personal gain at our expense. We know that the drastic measures taken to prevent overwhelming hospitals have now been twisted and contorted beyond all proportion, and are causing more real-time and long-term damage than Covid ever could have caused.

Numerous clinical medical studies have proven that simple Vitamin D deficiency is a known contributor to the worst symptoms and complications with Covid. Likewise, simple supplementation of Vitamin D will prepare and strengthen the body to fight Covid -- and pretty much any and all viruses successfully, with minimum discomfort and minimum complications.

Similar clinical studies are currently being conducted for Covid and Vitamin C, which has shown its own medicinal healing benefits in patients with ARDS and sepsis. With minimal adverse side effects, but many MANY known benefits, Vitamin C should also be taken to prepare and fortify the body.

Who is telling the people this??? No one. If someone can't profit off your suffering, they don't care... even if it kills you.

When government, MSM and the medical industrial complex starts telling the people how to take care of themselves, so they don't need professional medical intervention (and expenses) at all, then the people will not feel the need for or even the interest in "conspiracies."