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I said the cartel has taken a big hit because of it, that is a cold hard fact you seem to want to gloss over.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: mtnshredder
I said the cartel has taken a big hit because of it, that is a cold hard fact you seem to want to gloss over.
That isn't a cold hard fact.
The truth is that wall isn't even close to complete and that even in parts where it is, as shown in that video, drugs have always gotten through.
Hard to believe that you want to deny that the wall doesn't stop anything when the proof is right there.
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: mtnshredder
I said the cartel has taken a big hit because of it, that is a cold hard fact you seem to want to gloss over.
That isn't a cold hard fact.
The truth is that wall isn't even close to complete and that even in parts where it is, as shown in that video, drugs have always gotten through.
Hard to believe that you want to deny that the wall doesn't stop anything when the proof is right there.
It is a fact and one you refuse to actually research. My info has come from the horses mouth, in other words, people that have and are involved with the illicit drug trade and human trafficking and.....no, I’m not involved with them in anyway but have had many conversations with them on the subject.
Think what you want and believe what you want to believe but you’re dead wrong and not educated on the topic.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants
Did Mexico pay for the wall yet?
You'll get over it.
Reading through it made me cry.
www.latimes.com...
originally posted by: Drucifer
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: mtnshredder
I said the cartel has taken a big hit because of it, that is a cold hard fact you seem to want to gloss over.
That isn't a cold hard fact.
The truth is that wall isn't even close to complete and that even in parts where it is, as shown in that video, drugs have always gotten through.
Hard to believe that you want to deny that the wall doesn't stop anything when the proof is right there.
It is a fact and one you refuse to actually research. My info has come from the horses mouth, in other words, people that have and are involved with the illicit drug trade and human trafficking and.....no, I’m not involved with them in anyway but have had many conversations with them on the subject.
Think what you want and believe what you want to believe but you’re dead wrong and not educated on the topic.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
Well, I know it hasn’t done jacksh*t to the drug trade because prices are still the same across the board, from Florida to California. The second there is a dip in supply, the prices skyrocket, then fall back down when it’s available again. Prices have been the same for the last 20 years and there’s certainly no lack of substances.
So what that tells me is:
They weren’t getting in from the Mexican border nearly as much as previously thought
Or
The wall ain’t workin’
The cartels have pretty much given up on moving weed across the border, they just grow it in Cali now, which is allowing them to focus primarily on hard drugs. Maybe it’s because of the lack of concern over pot and them focusing more on harder stuff, which is why there has been lack of supply at any point in the last several years.
Either way, if someone is saying the cartels have taken a big hit with their drug running, I call BS. While I’m no longer an avid user of substances, I still talk to the same people I did when I was an avid user. If the prices are remaining the same, it’s because there’s no shortage coming into the country. Whatever is getting caught at the border is most likely dummy loads meant to distract or throw law enforcement off the trail.
San Diego Sector: In one short 12 mile section in the San Diego Sector, the wall reduced CBP manpower requirements by 150 agents every 24 hours. That is approximately a $28 million return on investment per year in salaries and benefits. These agents were redeployed to fill resource gaps in other areas of the border -- further improving our security. CBP’s San Diego Field Office continues to be a significant source of narcotics seizures. From FY 19 to FY 20, seizures of fentanyl, marijuana, and methamphetamine all increased, with meth seizures jumping at alarming rates in the past several years – demonstrating that the border wall is forcing drug smugglers to where we are best prepared to catch them – our ports of entry.
Yuma Sector: Illegal entries in areas with new border wall system plummeted over 87% in FY 20 compared to FY 19. In FY 19, CBP deployed a temporary barrier, which it has replaced with a permanent system, at the Sanchez Canal, which resulted in illegal entries decreasing in this area by more than 1,000 per month. In FY 19, in areas of older existing border fencing or barriers, Yuma Sector apprehended 12 large groups (over a 100 persons) compared to zero large groups in FY 20 with new border wall system. Family Unit entries have decreased over 95% FY 19: 51,961 vs. FY 20: 2,940 RGV Sector: In a section of RGV (Zone 1) apprehensions have decreased since the construction of the border wall system. This is a location that has never had any border infrastructure. CBP has seen 79% decrease in apprehensions in this area (Zone 1) since the completion of border wall system. CBP has seen a 26% decrease in narcotics seizures since the completion of border wall system in this area. In another section of RGV, prior to construction of the border wall system it was common to see illegal aliens running across a heavily traveled road, putting themselves and members of the community at risk. Smugglers are now forced to take their groups further west into areas that are less dense with brush and easier for CBP surveillance cameras to detect illicit activity.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Drucifer
Yeah well, it's kind of hard to keep drugs out of the U.S. when your far left-wing leaders have been allowing criminals from south of the border to seek sanctuary in democrat hell holes... Your far left-wing leaders have been even protecting "illegal immigrants whom have even ran over and killed Americans while being drunk/drugged under the disguise of "fighting racism..."
Last I checked entry into the U.S. includes entry through democrat hell holes like California... Which has become a "sanctuary state no matter the crimes committed by illegal immigrants...
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: Drucifer
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: mtnshredder
I said the cartel has taken a big hit because of it, that is a cold hard fact you seem to want to gloss over.
That isn't a cold hard fact.
The truth is that wall isn't even close to complete and that even in parts where it is, as shown in that video, drugs have always gotten through.
Hard to believe that you want to deny that the wall doesn't stop anything when the proof is right there.
It is a fact and one you refuse to actually research. My info has come from the horses mouth, in other words, people that have and are involved with the illicit drug trade and human trafficking and.....no, I’m not involved with them in anyway but have had many conversations with them on the subject.
Think what you want and believe what you want to believe but you’re dead wrong and not educated on the topic.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
Well, I know it hasn’t done jacksh*t to the drug trade because prices are still the same across the board, from Florida to California. The second there is a dip in supply, the prices skyrocket, then fall back down when it’s available again. Prices have been the same for the last 20 years and there’s certainly no lack of substances.
So what that tells me is:
They weren’t getting in from the Mexican border nearly as much as previously thought
Or
The wall ain’t workin’
The cartels have pretty much given up on moving weed across the border, they just grow it in Cali now, which is allowing them to focus primarily on hard drugs. Maybe it’s because of the lack of concern over pot and them focusing more on harder stuff, which is why there has been lack of supply at any point in the last several years.
Either way, if someone is saying the cartels have taken a big hit with their drug running, I call BS. While I’m no longer an avid user of substances, I still talk to the same people I did when I was an avid user. If the prices are remaining the same, it’s because there’s no shortage coming into the country. Whatever is getting caught at the border is most likely dummy loads meant to distract or throw law enforcement off the trail.
The DHS and border patrol agents tend to disagree with you.
Here is some real data from the DHS which says the wall has been very effective. Are all the Border agents wrong and you’re right?
I dare to differ that what I’m telling you is BS as you claim. Again, I’m not saying it’s stopping the cartel in their tracks but it’s a major deterrent for them. I believe anything we do to help deter sex trafficking and drug trafficking is a step in the right direction. Should we just do nothing to deter them? Is making their life more difficult to do the illicit things they do a bad thing?
We’re never going to stop all of it, that’s common sense but doing nothing about the problem is a pathetic mentality.
Here’s what DHS thinks about it...www.dhs.gov...
You should read it.
San Diego Sector: In one short 12 mile section in the San Diego Sector, the wall reduced CBP manpower requirements by 150 agents every 24 hours. That is approximately a $28 million return on investment per year in salaries and benefits. These agents were redeployed to fill resource gaps in other areas of the border -- further improving our security. CBP’s San Diego Field Office continues to be a significant source of narcotics seizures. From FY 19 to FY 20, seizures of fentanyl, marijuana, and methamphetamine all increased, with meth seizures jumping at alarming rates in the past several years – demonstrating that the border wall is forcing drug smugglers to where we are best prepared to catch them – our ports of entry.
Yuma Sector: Illegal entries in areas with new border wall system plummeted over 87% in FY 20 compared to FY 19. In FY 19, CBP deployed a temporary barrier, which it has replaced with a permanent system, at the Sanchez Canal, which resulted in illegal entries decreasing in this area by more than 1,000 per month. In FY 19, in areas of older existing border fencing or barriers, Yuma Sector apprehended 12 large groups (over a 100 persons) compared to zero large groups in FY 20 with new border wall system. Family Unit entries have decreased over 95% FY 19: 51,961 vs. FY 20: 2,940 RGV Sector: In a section of RGV (Zone 1) apprehensions have decreased since the construction of the border wall system. This is a location that has never had any border infrastructure. CBP has seen 79% decrease in apprehensions in this area (Zone 1) since the completion of border wall system. CBP has seen a 26% decrease in narcotics seizures since the completion of border wall system in this area. In another section of RGV, prior to construction of the border wall system it was common to see illegal aliens running across a heavily traveled road, putting themselves and members of the community at risk. Smugglers are now forced to take their groups further west into areas that are less dense with brush and easier for CBP surveillance cameras to detect illicit activity.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants
Did Mexico pay for the wall yet?
You'll get over it.
Reading through it made me cry.
www.latimes.com...
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: mtnshredder
Since the supply is still there, it tells us they have figured out ways to get through the wall.
originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: MiddleInsite
And a bunch of Trump's traitors trying to overthrow the government and make Trump a King.
Every time I see this stupid sentence, I'm going to correct it. Ask anybody that was actually there. The ocean of patriots that went to Washington DC did NOT go there to overthrow the government.
They marched to the capitol to stand in solidarity against what they see as a stolen election. Tens of millions of Americans feel the same way and we are all appreciative of the ones that went to protest peacefully.,
No. a bunch of Trump traitors did NOT try to overthrow the government. Some infiltrators and perhaps a few bad actors got the headlines though.
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: MiddleInsite
And a bunch of Trump's traitors trying to overthrow the government and make Trump a King.
Every time I see this stupid sentence, I'm going to correct it. Ask anybody that was actually there. The ocean of patriots that went to Washington DC did NOT go there to overthrow the government.
They marched to the capitol to stand in solidarity against what they see as a stolen election. Tens of millions of Americans feel the same way and we are all appreciative of the ones that went to protest peacefully.,
No. a bunch of Trump traitors did NOT try to overthrow the government. Some infiltrators and perhaps a few bad actors got the headlines though.
Good luck to you on that! The left still thinks Trump and Russia "colluded", and that Trump's tax returns, which several govt agencies have access to is somehow a smoking gun to impeach him.
It's a lost cause attempting to get liberals to accept any facts, they just want to repeat what CNN and Facebook tell them.