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originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
You notice anything missing?
No one builds settlements in the desert without water. No one stays, without it. Its just that simple. Regardless of whatever they had to trade with. That's why there were Caravans in the first place. Temporarily go into the area to harvest what they could, then leave.
If the waters dried up in 5000BC, then that is what you have. Pottery or no pottery. Salt, or no salt.
A person can survive weeks without food depending on their body composition, environment, and sex.
Meanwhile, the human body can only survive two to four days without water.
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Trading salt is not required to live...
It is absolutely ridiculous to even consider establishing a community of 400-500 souls without sufficient amounts of fresh, clean water.
Agree with who ever you wish.....
Of course, structures can be built without an actual settlement living there, like if they were military and the area had strategic importance.
Even for that, though. You still need a water source. A small one perhaps, but something.
I'm not siding with Byrd in saying Atlantis can't be there. But I must agree with him that structures don't prove it. Not unless they can be shown to use megalithic sized blocks, and there are a lot of them.
Trading salt would help explain Atlantis, though.
If Atlantis were founded along a big river that leads out into the ocean somewhere, and had abundant salt to trade, then they would have had a reason to venture forth and interact with the rest of the world.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
One of the structures noted in the second ring is of a pie shape I have Nick Named "Pie Fort". This, I would consider as a military outpost because of its spartan design and lacking any quarters that would be present for civilian use. It is defensive in design because the 3 side design allows for the greatest field of unobstructed view. This design is very unique. There are what appear to be updated forts with 4 walls but do not appear to be from the same mindset, timeline of the Pie Forts.
These Pie Forts are scattered around Mauritania and because of the unique design, tie them all to the structure buried in the second ring, and would suspect, the same timeline, mindset.
So, our lost society required defensive outpost. This alone would suggest the size of this lost civilization was much larger than what is seen, and required protection.
There are possibility 3 large blocks in the center of the Richat, which viewing a poor photo suggest they are not buildings. If you read Plato he states there was a central pillar that had the "Laws" written on and where the "Blood Oath" was recited every 5th and 6th year. There is no way to confirm what these objects are until examinPeopled in person as to whether they are building blocks or the pillar of laws.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd
I'm really very sorry, but until you can explain how 7 structures were buried in dried out mud in the second ring of the Richat Structure, that follow the radius, that are not in the history books, I'm just not going to waist my time in a pointless argument.
Oh, did you know one of the structures has been partially dug out? Looks like they got about 2ft down before it was halted. No photos, no record.
Artifacts are found, typically redeposited, deflated, or both, in Late Pleistocene to early Holocene gravelly mud, muddy gravel, clayey sand, and silty sand. These sediments are often cemented into either concretionary masses or beds by calcrete. Ridges typically consist of deeply weathered bedrock representing truncated Cenozoic paleosols that formed under tropical environments. The Pleistocene to Middle Holocene sediments occur along wadis as thin, meter- to less than meter-thick accumulations in the interior annular depressions to 3–4 meters (9.8–13.1 ft) thick accumulations along the wadis in the outermost annular depression of the Richat Structure. The gravelly deposits consist of mixture of slope scree, debris flow, and fluviatile or even torrential flow deposits. The finer grained, sandy deposits consist of eolian and playa lake deposits. The latter contain well-preserved, freshwater fossils. Numerous concordant radiocarbon dates indicate that the bulk of these sediments accumulated between 15,000 and 8,000 BP during the African humid period. These deposits lie directly upon deeply eroded and weathered bedrock
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd
Theodore Monod in 1974, says, its mud.
He also says there are no structures in the eye, but again, Satellite imaging was not available in 1974, and it has taken this long for the tops to weather through to be seen.
Now, again. Where do you think all that MUD came from...to bury those structures?
I feel like you have to apply a lot of imagination to those pictures in order to see anything in them.
Some of the shapes look square enough that they would be unlikely to happen in nature. But from the picture, I can't tell what they are. They could be crude shelters, or attempts to dig a well.
Naturally it would be fun to find Atlantis here. I could see a culture that was heavily invested in maritime trade getting mis-described in later legend as having its own continent, or being an island, or something like that.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
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It is interesting that the ones who wish (Demand) this to remain a myth, fiction, demand that what Plato shared be followed exactly, and refuse to allow any deviation. Its almost Religious in that they try to influence others to follow every word, but believe it to be fiction. Most folks are capable of being open minded when it comes to a story that is over 2000 years old, not them. First, since we know nothing about how many times it was retold before Plato ever received it, how could we be sure of any detail. Then you have the translations after he received it. We, in reality, are very lucky to even have the half we have today. And that is another major point, we only have half the story.
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
Here this is fun he follows the old trade routes through the desert.
At least try to understand a region before you start making claims about its history.
?????
You really must stop watching youtube!
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
Here this is fun he follows the old trade routes through the desert.
At least try to understand a region before you start making claims about its history.
?????
You really must stop watching youtube!
Umm, okay
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
Here this is fun he follows the old trade routes through the desert.
At least try to understand a region before you start making claims about its history.
?????
You really must stop watching youtube!
Umm, okay
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
Here this is fun he follows the old trade routes through the desert.
At least try to understand a region before you start making claims about its history.
?????
You really must stop watching youtube!
Umm, okay
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
So, how did those structures get buried in Mud? 4ft now, but what about before those structures became buried?
Upon what evidence are you making the claim of being buried in mud?
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Go there i think you will quickly realize you can't do satellite archeology you lose scale.
Most of your circles are only about 4 feet high
Here this is fun he follows the old trade routes through the desert.
At least try to understand a region before you start making claims about its history.
?????
You really must stop watching youtube!
Umm, okay
Seeing it up close like that, makes it hard to imagine the water between the rings ever being deep enough for a large boat to pass through it.
Sadly I may have to let go of my hopes for this one. (Even though the Berbers are starting to look like both the tellers of the legend, and perhaps the left over descendants of Atlantis itself.)
Seeing it up close like that, makes it hard to imagine the water between the rings ever being deep enough for a large boat to pass through it.