Do something about it, or STFU and obey

originally posted by: Gothmog
Let us hope this doesn't come down to violence.
I still believe in non-violent social change .
After all , I am still a long haired tree hugging hippy at heart .

Honestly, I think I'm pi$$ing in the wind. I think we're long past the people coming together and effecting lasting change, but I can always hope I'm wrong.

How about big picture? What's the overarching game plan? And what is the end game of this revolution?
The chest beating of the past 4/5 years has just been that. You can't go backwards.

You want to try to stop the natural evolution of a country and changing demographics? Things change. Electorates change. People who were never treated as equals in this country are gaining in numbers, finally have a voice, and are finally to the point that they have some influence. And finally learning how to play within a system that was originally designed to subjugate them. You think any "revolution" of any kind of 'old ways' is going to stop this very natural change?

You aren't more American than other Americans.

originally posted by: nerbot
a reply to: Klassified

Here...I have some spare...

faith faith
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patience patience
patience patience
patience

I’m afraid patience and faith is part of what has gotten us to this fuc#ked up station in the first place.

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Klassified

Another one that didn't read the OP.

I read the OP and saw your disclaimer about not being an armed conflict but if it were to start it would be an armed conflict because you don't control revolutions they go their own way , especially in a country as well armed as yours.

If there were to be a revolution it would consist of guerilla warfare involving the armed militias in your country who have been advocating such a move.

Innocent Americans would be killed because that's how it goes.

Your thinking is 2 dimensional, as in battlefield. I'm thinking of multi-level. A small start would be a several million facebook and twitter users deleting their accounts. Next would be millions of people finding alternatives to walmart and amazon.
Does that sound like anyone is coming to your house to murder anyone? I'm talking about using the economic and common sense weapons we have at our disposal as citizens. It is the other side that so many people are defending that are so willing to use violence and murder.

It's just the lefts ideological projection tactics. They ripped this country a new backside last year; looting, burning, destroying, executing LEO's —running them over, having full, all out gun battles in certain cities and look at how it's being conveniently swept under the rug now.

It's so rich that they're actually attempting to take the moral high ground!! 😂 🤷🏾‍♂️

NOW ITS A PROBLEM! NOW ITS INSURRECTION! NOW ITS DOMESTIC TERRORISM!

Disgusting H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S!!

a reply to: Klassified

I like it. Our own Velvet Revolution aka a Gentle Revolution. It's been done before:

The Velvet Revolution (Czech: sametová revoluce) or Gentle Revolution (Slovak: nežná revolúcia) was a non-violent transition of power in what was then Czechoslovakia, occurring from 17 November to 29 December 1989.

As much as anything, we are fighting an Information War. We have to fight smarter not harder.

I've been thinking about Hidden Figures, specifically when Johnson says they need old math to solve the equation. And she was right. She was brilliant.

We need to look at what has worked before, reform and revamp, and re-deploy. We need to beat them at their own game. We need to make the most and the best of the new technology... as well as good old fashioned horse sense.

a reply to: Gothmog

Here we go again with the foreigner citizens

I actually laughed out loud when i read that.

Coming from an American who's country has done nothing but interfere with other countries politics for as long as i can remember.

Thank you for that classic line. Always one to remember.

a reply to: EternalShadow

THIS

a reply to: EternalShadow

I'm sorry, what left? How were the opportunist looters 'leftist'? (as if there's even a 'left' in corporatist USA). How do you know their politics? How do you know they advocated for any candidate or even take part in the political process. What leftist tenets were they espousing that led you to make this determination?

Running them over? I'm guessing you don't mean all the people that drove cars over BLM protesters or the Unite the Right Charlottesville event.

Gun battles? Where was this happening in the name of politics and a candidate they support?

Or do you want to make the assertion that the hundreds of thousands of people that attended BLM protests and some people breaking into chain stores are exactly the same and have the same motives? If so, how do you know this?

Perhaps you missed all the police brutality that took place at BLM protests... even when the protestors did nothing. Meanwhile, barely any cops there for the storming of the capitol and cops escorting people in (thus the indictments now coming down on those cops).

originally posted by: okrian
a reply to: EternalShadow

I'm sorry, what left? How were the opportunist looters 'leftist'? (as if there's even a 'left' in corporatist USA). How do you know their politics? How do you know they advocated for any candidate or even take part in the political process. What leftist tenets were they espousing that led you to make this determination?

Running them over? I'm guessing you don't mean all the people that drove cars over BLM protesters or the Unite the Right Charlottesville event.

Gun battles? Where was this happening in the name of politics and a candidate they support?

Or do you want to make the assertion that the hundreds of thousands of people that attended BLM protests and some people breaking into chain stores are exactly the same and have the same motives? If so, how do you know this?

Perhaps you missed all the police brutality that took place at BLM protests... even when the protestors did nothing. Meanwhile, barely any cops there for the storming of the capitol and cops escorting people in (thus the indictments now coming down on those cops).

You’re correct. I didn’t see nuffin either...

a reply to: okrian

Really?

Were you off planet the last 12 months???

Geezus....🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

What you're doing is pathetic and COMPLETELY disingenuous.

Folks, just because you got away with it, doesn't mean it was okay. Do I really need to make that clear???🤦🏾‍♂️ 🙄

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Klassified

I like it. Our own Velvet Revolution aka a Gentle Revolution. It's been done before:

The Velvet Revolution (Czech: sametová revoluce) or Gentle Revolution (Slovak: nežná revolúcia) was a non-violent transition of power in what was then Czechoslovakia, occurring from 17 November to 29 December 1989.

As much as anything, we are fighting an Information War. We have to fight smarter not harder.

I've been thinking about Hidden Figures, specifically when Johnson says they need old math to solve the equation. And she was right. She was brilliant.

We need to look at what has worked before, reform and revamp, and re-deploy. We need to beat them at their own game. We need to make the most and the best of the new technology... as well as good old fashioned horse sense.

Thank you. I knew a few would get it, and that's who this thread was for, other than me complaining about people complaining and doing nothing.

a reply to: Klassified

SnF

You and ATS know how I feel about this........talk time is over. Time for action and its coming....the bubble will burst.

Americans have killed each other before....it was called the civil war and for good reason.....

History is known to repeat itself..... to the others.....keep your eyes and ears closed real tight and maybe you can wish it away.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Klassified

So you’re saying, 100% no violence and that you don’t support any violence in you revolution

No violence needed, but there must be massive action taken.

Massive action will take money, strong leaders, a solid plan, and a method of implementation. Did I mention money?

Even grass roots efforts like the Tparty failed because of all of the above.

Not necessarily, though it wouldn't hurt. I'm thinking more along the lines of anonymous. Anonymous was an idea, not an organization, and I think that's what we need. However, a central place to build on that idea wouldn't hurt either.

a reply to: Klassified

MLK showed us the way.

The challange is getting orignized.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: Klassified

MLK showed us the way.

The challange is getting orignized.

The beauty of this is action can be taken without centralization. I have already given a few ideas in this thread. What if everyone who read those ideas disseminated them, and the ideas grew into a movement, and suddenly twitter, facebook, and others found themselves with millions less subscribers?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Gothmog

Here we go again with the foreigner citizens

I actually laughed out loud when i read that.

Coming from an American who's country has done nothing but interfere with other countries politics for as long as i can remember.

Thank you for that classic line. Always one to remember.

The pot meets the kettle .
But , who came first ?

(Shh without the meddling from one there would have been no WW2 , no West Bank and Gaza , no Vietnam War...)

a reply to: Klassified

From my perspective it's an enormous public relations operation that could work from a classic publicity promotion model.
But to be successful it will need to attract more than just the pissedoff conservatives. I know it's cliched, but a message of true Hope and Change would attract almost everyone. You have a very noble and ambitious project. I like it.

I don't think you're pissin in the wind....

I'd like to hear what kind of strategy you would implement to achieve your goals.

a reply to: Gothmog

(Shh without the meddling from one there would have been no WW2 , no West Bank and Gaza , no Vietnam War...

I can't actually understand what you are saying there. Please enlighten me ?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Gothmog

(Shh without the meddling from one there would have been no WW2 , no West Bank and Gaza , no Vietnam War...

I can't actually understand what you are saying there. Please enlighten me ?

Then I recommend for you a good history book .

a reply to: Gothmog

American or British History ?