Nurse gets Covid after having Vaccine

thehill.com...

A California nurse tested positive for COVID-19 just one week after he received the Pfizer vaccine.

The nurse, identified as Matthew W., got the first dose of the vaccine on Dec. 18 and only experienced slight arm soreness at the time.

Within six days, the 45-year-old began to experience chills, muscle pain and fatigue, all of which have been identified as symptoms of the

So I've heard that the vaccine is not necessarily to stop Covid, but to stop severe symptoms.
I also know two shots are required and even then it is not 100%.
This has me thinking of several things..

If certain age groups have very low/no symptoms from Covid why do they need the vaccine?
I'm talking 30 and under. (Unfortunately I've known enough people in their 40/50 that have died or
have had severe Covid symptoms.)

Is the risk from side effects of the vaccine is greater than the risk
of Covid it would be silly to push this on everyone from all age groups?

Is this vaccine effective against this new UK strain, I know they say it is, but is it really?

If Covid keeps mutating, how can they keep up with vaccines?

Are the vaccines giving people false hope and they are letting their guard down and might actually
spread Covid more?

a reply to: JAGStorm
They are running live tests and this may be when we find out that they do not work.

You mean they actually don't know the results of this untested, unknowable vaccine? Well color me surprised.

When I heard that it alters your bodies responses and adds information to genes I almost rushed out to get one, but some 91 year old woman COURAGEOUSLY kicked me out the way and plunged the needle into her own arm, like a soldier she was, shining and bright, noble and true!

She's got a cough now, nothing to worry about to be sure, she seems a little off balance and weak too, probably nothing though, give it another two weeks. . . . I mean, if she pops it, she was old anyway, right. Least she died of something other than Covid, we'll know that because she had the vaccine that we still don't know what it does, see the logic? Or she'll pop it from Covid in which case, shoulda' got the second shot. If someone dies after the second shot then. . . . . Eer. . . . . . Virus bad, vaccine good?


What have we done?

There are thousands and thousands of reports of adverse reactions to vaccines some that have been around for decades. Of course a brand new one is gonna have them too, one reason I won't be taking this vaccine anytime soon.

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.

Didn't they test 35000 people already?
Seems someone is holding up the results now?

And, no, I'm not being brainwashed into taking a vaccine that I have no confidence in.

To me its like giving your child to many Bayer orange flavor aspirins and they later in life they develop a spectrum of Downed Syndrome ( mentally that is ) of course, use as directed.

Same thing may apply with the vaccine, use as directed. No liability for the pharmaceutical companies.

No vaccine give immunity at once it always take few weeks for body to build immunity. She might have been infected before vaccine or after, one week is too short to build immunity.

originally posted by: musicismagic
Didn't they test 35000 people already?
Seems someone is holding up the results now?

And, no, I'm not being brainwashed into taking a vaccine that I have no confidence in.

To me its like giving your child to many Bayer orange flavor aspirins and they later in life they develop a spectrum of Downed Syndrome ( mentally that is ) of course, use as directed.

Same thing may apply with the vaccine, use as directed. No liability for the pharmaceutical companies.

Aspirin can cause Reyes syndrome. I do not think it creates down syndrome.

seems more a treatment to lessen the severity than a vaccine.

Vaccine won’t lower infection rates: WHO
WHO’s chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan said this week there was no evidence vaccines were going to prevent people passing it onto others. It is expected the vaccine will reduce the severity of symptoms but will not stop the virus from being infectious. “I don't believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on,”

originally posted by: dollukka
No vaccine give immunity at once it always take few weeks for body to build immunity. She might have been infected before vaccine or after, one week is too short to build immunity.

People are tested to ensure they are not infected before they take the jab.

And since she seems to have contracted the virus in between jabs, I assume she won't get the booster. Which is a warning to everyone being vaccinated, but a warning that doesn't seem to have been shouted from the rooftops loudly enough, especially with a highly contagious mutation of the virus sweeping the world.

Meanwhile, I understand the US is holding back on approving the UK's Oxford 'monkey cold' vaccine - which I can fully understand since the test trials were restricted to the 18-55 age group. Unless I'm missing something, why on EARTH should the elderly become essentially guinea pigs at this stage of the game?

And why boast about an effectiveness rate if the trials only involve those who exhibit the fewest symptoms, if any at all? Just to tease the stock markets and take the money and run?

Call me cynical 'n all... Shall I send out the Phage bat-signal...?

I can't recall exactly, but I think my SO will be required to get the vaccine, due to the fact she works in a health care field. Which is all well and dandy, and she has no problem getting it. Though she is worried that it may have an adverse reaction, and give it to her instead. Who knows...

I've never had the flu. And I've also never had a flu shot.

ETA: No, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, just for the record. Lol.

a reply to: bluemooone2

In the meantime the Pharma Industrial Complex grows wealthier.

Guessing he was already exposed before the shot.

We've heard some warning about the "experts" not testing before shots.

Possible "double indemnity" ☠️

More BS sabotage ☠️

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

You never had the flu? That is rare!
And it would be so interesting to see the results of your
test. A covid free subject but on the down lo.

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

You never had the flu? That is rare!
And it would be so interesting to see the results of your
test. A covid free subject but on the down lo.

I never had the flu either. Got a perfect school attendance 1 thru 12th grade. Never missed a day of school.

I was offered the vaccine a week ago and laughed at them. Not gonna happen, even if ordered to.

They push that stupid flu shot on us every year as well. What should really set people’s alarm bells off is when they admit missing the flu strain for that season and tell everyone to continue getting the flu shot. Why?

I’ll risk having a runny nose for a few days.

a reply to: carsforkids

Yeah Idk what it is. It isn't like I'm the healthiest of people either.

Worst I ever had was a ruptured appendix, not fun. Not in the slightest.

ETA: "Worst I've ever had" - Can't be told what's wrong with me if I don't go to the doctor. And I haven't been to one in about fifteen years.

So I'm probably dying right now.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: carsforkids

Yeah Idk what it is. It isn't like I'm the healthiest of people either.

Worst I ever had was a ruptured appendix, not fun. Not in the slightest.

ETA: "Worst I've ever had" - Can't be told what's wrong with me if I don't go to the doctor. And I haven't been to one in about fifteen years.

So I'm probably dying right now.

I don't want to alarm you so you may not want to listen to what I'm about to say, but here it is.

We are all dying right now. All of us. Just a matter of time. So may as well live with reckless abandon and party like 2020 is about to be over. I plan to say up until at least 9:30. Living on the edge.

a reply to: JAGStorm

You need the Astra Zeneca one, they have also decided to cooperate with the Russian to develop a hybrid vaccine from there two that should be even more affective.

Pfizer have a bit of a bad rep, they are not well liked.

Also the Astra Zeneca one is likely to not contain as much possible crap as that Pfizer version.

As yet though all these vaccines are on thin ice, we will have to wait and see if they really work, my area in the UK has just gone into tier 4 lockdown, a kind of soft curfew on social gathering's and business to try to stop the spread of the new strain's that have emerged.

In my nation all of this could have been avoided if the numpty in charge had put our nation into quarantine at the start of the outbreak, if we had done it other nations may have followed suit and now it would not be a problem, it cost more in the long and has harmed business more than a full quarantine within the first month of the outbreak would ever have cost.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It usually takes about a week or so for a vaccine to work. If they made it strong enough to work right away, it could cause some major problems. If the vaccine works as it is supposed to work, it should help to stop a severe case of covid resulting in hospitalization for most people if they get exposed to it a couple of days later. They will test positive for covid because in all cases, the virus does an infection, it just gets fought off quicker. The word immunity is not utilized correctly most times, immunity is like what we have to a virus that infects cows and not people. If the virus does not bother humans, like ninety some percent of viruses in our environment are, then we have immunity to it.

The vast majority of vaccines just give our immune systems information to prepare for a virus, sometimes the memory lasts your whole life or many years. The flu vaccines I consider money makers, viruses are constantly changing and when you get an original new virus, your body learns to deal with it in multiple ways by actually getting the disease so we get protection for way longer and for many strains. They could make flu vaccines like that...they would give you the flu and we would get protection from future strains of it. The pandemic of nineteen eighteen gave protection to people and I being born in 55 would still have protection till my immune system malfunctions.

I get a cold every year, sometimes two. I guess we don't get lasting immunity to colds...at least I don't. One good thing, the cold virus likes to infect cancer cells so it destroys cancer as it is starting because of it's rapid growth. I do not know which common cold viruses do that, hopefully not the coronaviruses, because they are making antigens to the corona shell of the virus which means it might kill the common cold versions and more people may get cancer instead of a common cold.

We will find out within ten years I suppose, but the medical industry will never admit they screwed up if it does happen.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
thehill.com...

A California nurse tested positive for COVID-19 just one week after he received the Pfizer vaccine.

The nurse, identified as Matthew W., got the first dose of the vaccine on Dec. 18 and only experienced slight arm soreness at the time.

Within six days, the 45-year-old began to experience chills, muscle pain and fatigue, all of which have been identified as symptoms of the

So I've heard that the vaccine is not necessarily to stop Covid, but to stop severe symptoms.
I also know two shots are required and even then it is not 100%.
This has me thinking of several things..

If certain age groups have very low/no symptoms from Covid why do they need the vaccine?
I'm talking 30 and under. (Unfortunately I've known enough people in their 40/50 that have died or
have had severe Covid symptoms.)

Is the risk from side effects of the vaccine is greater than the risk
of Covid it would be silly to push this on everyone from all age groups?

Is this vaccine effective against this new UK strain, I know they say it is, but is it really?

If Covid keeps mutating, how can they keep up with vaccines?

Are the vaccines giving people false hope and they are letting their guard down and might actually
spread Covid more?

It appears that's expected to happen.

From your source.

"We know from the vaccine clinical trials that it’s going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine,"

Considering how many shots have been given, it's not at all surprising. Kind of a non-story unless it's just doom porn or a hysterical reaction to this. It's almost like some want the vaccine to fail.