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Electron Microscopy And SARS-CoV-2

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posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
It easy to just write paper which claims yeeh we isolated SARS-CoV-2 bla bla bla...and so have they done , but people are not buying it , people who know the details about real isolation.

It's even easier to do nothing and just say the others are lying...



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: one4all

Oh my sweet Jesus, you’re right, my masters in infectious disease program is a complete sham. All those classes in molecular biology, molecular medicine and immunology wasted. The coursework on bacteria, viruses, fungi, prions and parasites all falsified. My whole life, years of time and study completely lost, wandering aimlessly through the world of microbiology until some person on the internet helped me to see the light and that we’re dealing with the Borg of microorganisms.

I can’t believe I have finally found the topic for my PhD thesis. The thesis defense is so simple, I can throw every proven theory into a garbage dumpster as wrong and unprovable nonsense because I can create a specific definition of proof that can’t be proven wrong, like isolating virus without the use of cells or a medium. Or freezing a biological process in a vacuum to get a detailed image for study so I can better understand how it works. Even the genome mapping that allows us to computer model protein folding and interactions with the host. Plus the loads of other fluorescence studies we perform in viruses and cells. There are resonance studies that prove all of this that measure interactions under 100 nm in cells as proteins interact and move.





Incorrect....and this is the crux of your Personal Dilemma.

All of the Research and Data was not gleaned and gathered for naught.....you are bright enough to understand this without so much explanation OK?......there has been a multi-Generational Tactical Action designed to control bastardize and manipulate knowledge dissemination Globally.....and the impetus behind this graft is not so bright.

Understand this ok.....if the Shoe Fits we have to wear it.....I am not pissing in your Cornflakes and denying you breakfast I am offering you something better.

I use your research....your acumen....your knowledge base and experiences........as a tool... I say there is no such thing as a virus as you have been taught....I expect rebuttal...but I also expect research both ways...and I do not get that from so-called educated people they refuse to do research themselves because they know very well if they do they cannot argue with themselves and will be forced to change.

This is ATS where I choose to discuss these things....only here for me...but I read a lot of other Articles and Posts on other sites and watch a lot of videos....and this cat will not fit back into the bag now....I am truly genuinely sorry for the negative dissonance so many good people are now being forcefed...but Medicine can sometimes taste like crap.

The Parasitic-Bacterial connections have been made now.....its all over.....but the crying.

The most simple solution is always the most correct solution.

When you address causality you do not need to refer to symptomology you can flush that and all of the data connected to it down the Loo.

So I am saying that its possible to directly identify and remediate CAUSALITY without accepting the verbiage connected to the science based data findings.

BY going directly to causality we do NOT NEED to address symptomology or any of the massive volume of data related to such .... meaning those THOUSANDS OF PER APPROVED PAPERS and such.... are not part of the equation that leads to the Solution.

This causality I refer to is identified described and we are taught to avoid and remediate it in the Bible and all major Doctrinal writings....and I am sure they didnt teach you that in School.

My best example of the learning methods you are benign to.....is this.....the blood system is a closed System.

Application of Ventilators requires a specific threshold of o2 denial .. so basiclly once your o2 levels drop to a certain point they apply it....if you can remain above that threshold they will not apply it.....this is a critical point.

THe CAUSALITY which projects itself into a ventilator dynamic is being actioned from within a closed System.

Your blood volume is contained within a closed System.....this System has a filtration process....and a renewal process.....this is how a clean usable constant consistent blood volume is delegated....

Within the Volume of the blood we normally have a number of little viral sized garbage bags filled with dead inert RNA/DNA and encapsulated by an Antibody coating.....these are normally filtered out of the blood and the wee little garbage bags are tossed out as new blood comes in to replace said egressed volume.

What is in some cases happening is this...... the closed System is being breached....enmasse in a casade action....in which viral sized living Bacteria surrounded by a Lipid Fat Coating begins to rapidly displace normal healthy blood volume .... these invaders cannot be redflagged by Antibody Patrols because of their camoflage Lipid Fat Coating ..... Antibodies do not identify these viral sized living Invaders as a threat.....AND...the bodies filtration System gets kicked into high gear or overdrive..... and it now tries to throw out an exponentially growing volume of garbage bags and keeps telling the System to bring in fresh new blood until it reaches its max output ..... at which point it stops sending the bring in new blood requests.....and the exponentially growing number of viral sized contiminents comprised of both Antibody dead inert garbage bags and viral sized Lipid Fat covered living polluting bacteria back up and begin to displace volume of functioning blood........at this same time the viral sized bacteria are constantly and consistantly polluting the blood volume and in doing so triggering the hyper-production of antibodies which end up going in circles doing nothing.

So this is about volume displacement of functioning blood within a closed System with the catalyst being internal to the Human body not external to it.

Pumping that particular ratio of usable functioning vs non-usable non-functioning blood by externally managed and maintained sources or venting....forces overpolluted blood into and through an overworked incapable filtration System that has pressure relief methods.

We all know how these stories end.

The trick is to immediatly enable the bloodstream to carry enough o2 that the patient never breaches the trigger point that brings the ventilator into the equation......a transfusion of fresh functioning blood sans viral sized bacteria which unfortunately much donated blood already and has historiclly had to some degrees..... will prevent the application of the Vent.

BUt you must test the so-called fresh donated blood to ensure it is free of the viral sized bacteria or you shoot yourself in the foot.

Hence...blood plasma transfusions et al.

In addition you must immediatly kill bad gut bacteria.

A 2-pronged remedial approach.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Kenzo

Conspiracy theorists. That will get you far. If you read any of the papers in the REAL science, you would understand that all that has been done. It's not a miracle. The first virus to be isolated was the tobacco mosaic virus in 1892.

Read into it what you want. Ignorance is bliss sometimes. But it's never the truth.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: one4all

You say keep it simple and use the simplest solution. I highly suggest you purchase a basic book on molecular biology and also pick up a book on basic microbiology. It will do you wonders because explaining all of that as a pleomorphic organism is making it far more complex than the accepted and proven standards. You are putting up a fringe hypothesis against proven theories. You should also research the difference between hypothesis and theory. I think you should also study anatomy and physiology as well. All you’re proving is that you are not educated in the field.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP


Easy would be if i just go with the mainstream propaganda , that`s easy peacy...just adopt the so called facts ,shut up and be happy.

It`s much harder to find alternative truths/views, specially now when internet data is being systematically censored or deleted .



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Thats your rebuttal?

Typical.

Proven Theories are conceived and born of fringe hypothesis.

No I am showing people why Anti-parasitic/Bacterial remedies kill this bug....because its a living morphing bacteria that enters our body upon its parasitic host.
Viruses are lie....viral contaminates both animate and inanimate both alive and dead exist....no such thing as a virus....there are things like viral sized garbage bags our body produces normally....and viral sized live Pleomorphic bacteria.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
Easy would be if i just go with the mainstream propaganda , that`s easy peacy...just adopt the so called facts ,shut up and be happy.

Both things are easy, as you just decide which one to follow.

Me, I prefer to consider the most likely explanation the one presented by people that has studied this topic for many years and confirmed by other people that also have been studying this for many years, instead of considering most likely the explanation of someone that, usually, has the wrong credentials.


It`s much harder to find alternative truths/views, specially now when internet data is being systematically censored or deleted .

It's not, as we can see here daily. People just like to make it look like they are doing something important, when in fact they are just accepting blindly a different idea and thinking they are smarter than the rest.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: one4all

You say keep it simple and use the simplest solution. I highly suggest you purchase a basic book on molecular biology and also pick up a book on basic microbiology. It will do you wonders because explaining all of that as a pleomorphic organism is making it far more complex than the accepted and proven standards. You are putting up a fringe hypothesis against proven theories. You should also research the difference between hypothesis and theory. I think you should also study anatomy and physiology as well. All you’re proving is that you are not educated in the field.


I highly suggest you get off your arse and gather some life experience...start with a little Agriculture....do you know what happens to animals if you do not deworm them?......what do you think happens to people if you do not de-worm them?

Seriously if you cant even grasp the hands on reality of a concept you are lacking the ability to learn optimally.

What do you think the stages and symptomology of the unpoliced parasite/bacteria/animal dynamic are ?......do you mayyyybe think they paralell in all core value ways what happens to humans who suffer the same affliction?

Why do you think no one taught you in school about the critical importance of deworming yourself via a healthy balanced diet exclusive of the untreated foods which infect us....this is the single most important health reality and challenge every human on Earth faces their entire lives.

The entire Industry surrounding killing this bug has been fabricated and weaponized.....when all that matters is what it is and how you kill it ASAP.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: one4all

Anti parasitic drugs work because they bind to proteins called karyopherins and prevent nuclear transport. They work well when used properly but may become toxic with long term use at the dosages required. This will impair transport of transcription factors and other proteins that will impact gene and protein expression. This prevents cellular and viral protein expression. That is known as biochemistry and molecular medicine.



posted on Dec, 27 2020 @ 10:56 PM
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a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Green Black Walnut tincture and Wormwood Bitters with a clove thrown in for good measure will kill parasites and bacteria.

Problem solved.

Any method of killing parasites and bacteria and problem solved.

There are hundreds of remedys that will do this job.

Antiparasitic drugs work because they kill bugs dead...this is known as reality the rest is known as bullspit.

Like I said we address causality first and skip the meaningless filler.

I dont really care how you want to spin the bottle....bottom line is that antiparasitics and antibacterials work because they are killing the bug thats killing us......there is really no more to it than that....the rest is pure manufactured garbage.

If you want to play games we can easily break down the process of ripping off Mother Nature by stealing a core molecule
then legitimizing patented synthetic drugs and get into the specifics about what things like Juglone and Thujone accomplish....but why waste time on meaningless verbiage?



posted on Dec, 28 2020 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: one4all

Homeopathics and natural remedies can work wonders when used properly. They can be toxic to our cells in addition to parasites and bacteria. They can wipe natural flora and they can also kill fungi. If used improperly, permanent damage or death.

Don’t forget about TB, strep, staph and other nasty bacteria that could be resistant without outside support. Or people that can develop autoimmune issues when parasites are fully eliminated.

Bodies are weird sometimes. Synthetics can help us better target the mechanism of action and limit damage to the host. Other times, we can make the problem worse and cause permanent damage if we miss something. And just because something works on different organisms doesn’t mean the target organisms are the same thing.

Don’t get me wrong, certain fringe theories can be interesting and have support. Bacteria having and using organelles with some of those organelles resembling viruses. Viruses evolving from exosomes or similar structures in eukaryotes or bacteria. Giant viruses being able to replicate genes and carrying genes for metabolism, placing them somewhere in between a bacteria and virus on the is it alive scale.

The only thing pleomorphic about SARS-CoV-2 is that it bounces between sphere and elliptical or circle and oval.



posted on Dec, 28 2020 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: one4all
Antiparasitic drugs work because they kill bugs dead...this is known as reality the rest is known as bullspit.

Do you know why they kill the "bugs"?



posted on Dec, 28 2020 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: ArMaP

I dont remember knowing anyone personnally with AIDS diagnose or died to it.




I have been buddying within AIDS wards & I have witnessed young people die from AIDS for years.

They were not drug addicts. Nor were they malnourished.

It is always good to think outside the box, and this is a conspiracy site, BUT....


Merry Christmas & Good Yule all.
edit on 28-12-2020 by maya27 because: MERRY CHRISTMAS & Good Yule



posted on Dec, 28 2020 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: one4all
Antiparasitic drugs work because they kill bugs dead...this is known as reality the rest is known as bullspit.

Do you know why they kill the "bugs"?


Yes I know why they kill the bugs.....the finite details are meaningless.

The bugs make us sick these remedys kill the bugs , you replace your good gut bacteria with lacto-fermented foods after you use these remedys.

You dont consume infected foods again and include antiparasitic foods in your diet regularly in case you accidentally get infected and you will never be impacted beyond a common cold level.

All of the filler in the middle TheAMEDDDdoc is well versed in is why so many people are still dieing from this bug just like they always have...this is far from new or novel.

If you want to break down the chemicals in the plants that have been used as cores for the Synthetic drugs and try to illustrate EXACTLY WHAT THESE CHEMICALS DO TO KILL SAID BUGS.....well thats a waste of my time....i dont need to go that far....but you can easily do it online....

I wasnt joking when I said Covid-cold/cancer/bad gut Pleomorphic bacteria and the causes plus the remedial actions are written into all of the Major Religous Doctrines.



posted on Dec, 28 2020 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: one4all
Yes I know why they kill the bugs.....the finite details are meaningless.

Predictable...



posted on Dec, 29 2020 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: stonerwilliam


Yes , Strategic decisions ...


There might be real life character of Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg out there..



i think he is called William Gates !



posted on Dec, 29 2020 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: one4all
Yes I know why they kill the bugs.....the finite details are meaningless.

Predictable...


What are you looking for?
Macabre details?

Do you want to know if the bugs hair falls out or if its body gets paralysed or maybe some other exact symptoms of its demise?

Or are you in a roundabout way trying to see if maybe the cure is toxic to people huh?....spare me ok.....the remedys are all food and plant based(just like the patented synthetic drugs are)...and you can kill yourself by drinking to much water so lets stop now ok....before God starts paying attention.

That is an assinine question---predictable-- and exactly like asking someone if they know how the OFF kills the Mosquito or how the Rat Poison kills the Rat.

Just ask if the remedy can hurt a person....and in reply -- if you walk over to your Kitchen sink and turn on the tap then you already have your answer .

For the record I know exactly what happens to the bugs when exposed to said natural remedys.....and I could sift through the status quo data to show you in finite detail but there is no point(the pharmacutical companies have already done all my work by identifying parsing then isolating core molecules from said plants---- so we know exactly what is happening)....and I dont want to waste my time really....if a person cannot grasp the impossibility of this bug being described in detail in Ancient Doctrinal writings along with the remedial steps to conquor it .... then why invest time in them?

You see once you identify causality the remedial path is abundantly clear.

You are wrapped up in the falsely manifested and supported and maintained SEARCH FOR THE MYSTERIOUS CAUSALITY which by how it seems must Bunk up with Bigfoot at night because we sure as hell have never seen it up close and in person.

Step out of the Matrix....you have to choose to you know.
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posted on Dec, 29 2020 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: one4all
That is an assinine question---predictable-- and exactly like asking someone if they know how the OFF kills the Mosquito or how the Rat Poison kills the Rat.

That's the kind of question I was asking, if you know how.


Just ask if the remedy can hurt a person....and in reply -- if you walk over to your Kitchen sink and turn on the tap then you already have your answer .

Why should I ask that? That's not what I want to know.


You see once you identify causality the remedial path is abundantly clear.

And what if you misidentify causality? How do you know if you are right or not?


You are wrapped up in the falsely manifested and supported and maintained SEARCH FOR THE MYSTERIOUS CAUSALITY which by how it seems must Bunk up with Bigfoot at night because we sure as hell have never seen it up close and in person.

You know nothing about me.


Step out of the Matrix....you have to choose to you know.

Another predictable answer...



edit on 29/12/2020 by ArMaP because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 29 2020 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: one4all
That is an assinine question---predictable-- and exactly like asking someone if they know how the OFF kills the Mosquito or how the Rat Poison kills the Rat.

That's the kind of question I was asking, if you know how.


Just ask if the remedy can hurt a person....and in reply -- if you walk over to your Kitchen sink and turn on the tap then you already have your answer .

Why should I ask that? That's not what I want to know.


You see once you identify causality the remedial path is abundantly clear.

And what if you misidentify causality? How do you know if you are right or not?


You are wrapped up in the falsely manifested and supported and maintained SEARCH FOR THE MYSTERIOUS CAUSALITY which by how it seems must Bunk up with Bigfoot at night because we sure as hell have never seen it up close and in person.

You know nothing about me.


Step out of the Matrix....you have to choose to you know.

Another predictable answer...




More games huh?

You want to know if I know EXACTLY what the bug killers do to the bugs because you wish to drag things into muddy waters.....forget it....you wish to chisel and weasel your way to more data you do not have access to.....you want to learn on your own terms ...forget it....thats not how learning works and you are learning wether you are oppositionally defiant or not.....and you are ok with that but I am not....learn or burn .

What if you misidentify causaliity?...lol...gawd you are grasping at straws.....you want everyone to keep wasting time on symptomology not on causality.

Its impossible to misidentify causality....its also impossible to miss causality....so even a gently educated person should have by now been led to causality.....but y'all dont seem to know....why is that?

Do you know what a cascade event is?

Do you know why people so quickly ended up on Vents being killed?

Then ask about "immunity".....lol...lol...lol.

Ask the Pros how the bug reproduces....the truth is interesting......but you will not hear it from your oppositionally defiant cohort ..... better yet ask the neophyte WHERE the bug reproduces.....lol...lol..lol.

Predictable huh?

What is predictable is oppositional defiance being used as a defunct inferior learning tool.....it is a sign of the times....



posted on Dec, 30 2020 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: one4all
More games huh?

No games, only questions. When I don't know something and I'm on a conversation, I ask.


What if you misidentify causaliity?...lol...gawd you are grasping at straws.....you want everyone to keep wasting time on symptomology not on causality.

No, I'm trying to understand what exactly is causality, as it's something I'm not familiar with.




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