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Election Fraud in the inimitable style of OJ Simpson's "If I did it"

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posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 11:11 AM

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

You're the one that's trying to make this about the source of information rather than what the information says?

Warren is a useful idiot here. McConnell has long tried to discredit her. Stop trying to make this about Warren.

She had to pretend to bring up concerns about elections security PRECISELY to make it seem ridiculous and give MCCONNNELL COVER TO DENY EVERY ATTEMPT TO MAKE ELECTIONS SAFER?

How am I making this about Warren? You quoted her in your OP regarding election integrity, and I rejected her as an unbiased advocate for election integrity. You then posted a 2017 NYT article about Warren's resistance to Trump's cabinet nominations, and you tried to link that to an alleged plot by McConnell to suppress concerns about election integrity (???).

Now, you say Elizabeth Warren is an idiot. Then why would anyone take serious interest in the blathering of an idiot?

I'm not following the rambling, disconnected theories you're knotting together here.

I wish you good luck in the remainder of your thread.

edit on 24-12-2020 by SleeperHasAwakened because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 11:19 AM
Oh how they squirm when the light shines on them.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 11:22 AM

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

Not sure if Trump (or any Trump related person or company) was ever soliciting investment money FROM any Chinese person, group, or company. Big difference when people and companies are taking bids from Chinese companies to manufacture products. 😎

Was Trump seeking to do business in China?

In China, who controls ALL business?

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 11:51 AM
Revelation 12 The Great Red Dragon

Revelation 16 Kings of the East

The centerpiece of this campaign is a major new undertaking to rewrite holy scripture. China’s state-run Xinhua News Agency said late last year that Politburo Standing Committee member Wang Yang had presided over a meeting of so-called scholars and “religious people from the grassroots level” to discuss “making accurate and authoritative interpretations of classical doctrines to keep pace with the times.”


posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 12:02 PM
a reply to: Gryphon66

"A lot of folks are suddenly interested in the sanctity of American elections after the defeat of Donald Trump by Joe Biden in the 2020 Presidential Election. Folks who were previously content to talk about States Rights etc"

States rights are still a big issue to us but that doesn't mean we can't allow for federal intervention when things seem so wrong that they may be corrupt. It doesn't have to be all or nothing, there is a balance.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 12:20 PM
Another Dragon: Tiamat

In the religion of ancient Babylon, Tiamat (Akkadian: 𒀭𒋾𒊩𒆳 DTI.AMAT or 𒀭𒌓𒌈 DTAM.TUM, Greek: Θαλάττη Thaláttē) is a primordial goddess of the salt sea, mating with Abzû, the god of fresh water, to produce younger gods. She is the symbol of the chaos of primordial creation. She is referred to as a woman,and described as "the glistening one." It is suggested that there are two parts to the Tiamat mythos, the first in which Tiamat is a creator goddess, through a sacred marriage between salt and fresh water, peacefully creating the cosmos through successive generations. In the second Chaoskampf Tiamat is considered the monstrous embodiment of primordial chaos.

Don't dragons breathe fire not water though ?

Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. (Revelations 12: 15-17)

So, what do we have ... a dragon that breathes water with poisons in it ... that also rules the seas (shipping)??

Everything comes back to the Chao Connection. What do we sometime call beautiful Chinese women (Like Elaine and Angela) is it Dragon Lady?

But Gryph, what does a Babylonnian Dragon have to do with China? Good question, now you're thinking.

You do realize, of course, that China is not what they call themselves, right?

So, where did we get the word China from?

It is believed to be a borrowing from Middle Persian, and some have traced it further back to Sanskrit.


Do you remember where Persia was? That would be Babylon? Mesopotamia, land between the rivers? The source of the word Tiamat? Chaos?

Now Rev. 16:

12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.

Are you starting to see the Connections?

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 12:22 PM
a reply to: Antipathy17

You either believe in the Constitution or you don't. Right?

Either with us or against us?

The States are sovereign in their laws and power.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 03:17 PM

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Cravens
a reply to: Gryphon66

had put forth a bill calling for "replacing paperless electronic voting machines with hand-marked paper ballots and optical scanners, subjecting voting equipment vendors to rigorous cybersecurity standards

The old, tired truism “unintended consequences” applies to the above quote. Gore v Bush gave us HAVA and HAVA got rid of paper trails in many states (see here a study we did for The State of Maryland: DREs and No Paper Trail ). In the 21st century our proxies for government administration gave our adversaries a golden ticket 🎫 and its citizenry additional outlays for new highly-vulnerable, electronic voting equipment (referred to DREs in the study).

Yeah, but the Dominion machines that Brian Kemp got installed in Georgia HAVE A PAPER TRAIL ... so obviously the sides have switched now. If you control the paper trail, you control the election.

It's soooo simple once you see it.

Lever-pull balloting machines and Op-scan ballots FTW.

Yeah, it’s beyond reason why a few “hanging chads” would predicate such a move (HAVA), but it happened and many states had paperless DREs for several elections — costly and entry-level hacker vulnerabilities.

Anywho, thankfully, there are paper trails and if anyone wants to guarantee fraud-free ballots, just pull the lever or mark your circle/box.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 06:23 PM
a reply to: Cravens

The Dominion systems replaced the 18 year old electionic systems (that had no paper trail) by Federal Court order.

Federal judge bans paperless voting machines in Georgia after 2019

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 06:39 PM
Yeah, the Old World Cabals are part of the Chao Connection ...

The Rothschild family businesses can trace their first contact with China to the 1830's. Our business was one of the first Western business institutions to re-establish relations after 1953.

Global Advisory provides impartial, expert advisory and execution services to large and mid-sized corporations, private equity, families and entrepreneurs. We have direct access to the Chinese and North Asian markets through our local Chinese bankers who are based on the ground in Shanghai, Beijing, and Hong Kong, and supported by a partnership in South Korea.

We command an in-depth knowledge of the region's economic development and the challenges facing its industries, and have developed an exceptional understanding of the local regulatory and market environment. Our team is skilled at bridging the cultural gaps that can exist between the managements of foreign and local companies, and are the leading adviser to Chinese companies investing in Europe.

Rothschild & Co - Our Services in Greater China

Last year, Alexandre de Rothschild met with Ye Jianming, chairman of CEFC China Energy, with both sides agreeing to strengthen cooperation in sectors including energy, financial services, aviation, infrastructure construction, food and high-end property management. China's fascination with the Rothschild Family

We've long believed Donald Trump was fighting a war against globalism via nationalism. Yet, we're now realizing that Mr. Trump is far too intelligent to allow so many complete and utter failures as we've seen from his legal team.

He has not crossed the Rublicon. He has failed in his multiple law suits ... why?

He doesn't intend to win. The devi's greatest trick is to convinces us that he doesn't exist.

Trump's greatest con is to pretend to drain the swamp while he's continually re-stocking it.

And the Rothchilds are the key ... via China and the Chao Family.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 06:55 PM
More on the Sacred Chao ...

WITH A FATHER who went to school with President Jiang Zemin and later worked for Tung Chee-hwa's family shipping company, the extensive Hong Kong and Chinese connections of United States President George W. Bush's Labour Secretary, Elaine Chao, are facing fresh scrutiny.

A recent issue of the centre-left The New Republic magazine has used Ms Chao's background, her fund-raising and relationship with husband Republican Senator Mitch McConnell in a bid to portray an American right-wing now too close to China in the wake of the recent Hainan Island spy-plane stand-off.

Central to the magazine's claims are Ms Chao's failure to disclose a seat on the board of a California company running a joint venture with a mainland state partner and Mr McConnell's shift from the Republican right to the more moderate pro-trade stance that has long pervaded the party's thinking on China

South China Morning Post May 2001

Twenty years ago and what do we see?

Mrs. Chao is in George W. Bush's Cabinet in another apparently "low level" position as Secrtary of Labor.

Is it merely a coincidence that Bush seems to have ignored all the warning signs for 9/11?

Or was he befuddled by the Dragon Lady who was just as deep acting for Chinese interests then as now?

Was there an agent inside the White House that contributed to 9/11?

In several respects, the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington led to improvement in United-States-China relations. But what has been good for the U.S.-China relationship has not been as good for the United States and, specifically, the American interests at stake in the bilateral relationship.

Initial responses to the incidents ten years ago brought warmer U.S.-China relations. A “shocked” Chinese President Jiang Zemin was quick to express sympathy for the United States and the families of the victims and to condemn “all violent activities by terrorism.”

Beijing supported Washington’s call for cooperation and responsive action, including the adoption of United Nations Security Council resolutions that condemned the attacks, called on all states to take measures to combat and prevent terrorist activities and organizations generally and al-Qaeda and the Taliban specifically, endorsed international efforts to oust the Afghan Taliban regime that had provided shelter and support for al-Qaeda, and demanded that Iraq cease obstructing UN-mandated inspections for weapons of mass destruction.

Foreign Policy Research Institute

JIang Zemin ... where have we heard that name before?

Sen. Mitch McConnell is one of the strongest supporters of free trade and closer ties with China. Some say his attitude is a result of his marriage to Elaine Chao. After all, Jiang Zemin, China's former Communist Party boss and dictator, is a close family friend of the senator's wife, and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao praised her father for building up China's industry. Jiang Zemin, the hard-liner who took power following the Tienanmen Square massacre, is notorious for his repression of religious minorities and Tibet.


The US started warming to China during the Clinton administration FACILITATED BY MITCH MCCONNELL!

It would be wrong because President Bill Clinton wasn't married to Elaine Chao when he asked Congress to treat Communist China as a "Most Favored Nation" and make it safe for corporations to move American factories there. Conservatives warned of China's threat to our national security, but McConnell ignored these concerns and voted to open the door to more investment in the communist country, as Clinton asked.

The Chao family, more than any other factor, has virtually single-handedly manipulated MULTIPLE AMERICAN ADMINSTRATIONS into kissing up to the Chinese.

Clinton, Bush, Trump. Who's the common element?

Elaine Chao ... the Sacred Chao ... the Lady Dragon.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 06:55 PM

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Cravens

The Dominion systems replaced the 18 year old electionic systems (that had no paper trail) by Federal Court order.

Federal judge bans paperless voting machines in Georgia after 2019

Great way to get people herded into a safe corralled comfort zone 🤓

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 07:01 PM

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Cravens

The Dominion systems replaced the 18 year old electionic systems (that had no paper trail) by Federal Court order.

Federal judge bans paperless voting machines in Georgia after 2019

Great way to get people herded into a safe corralled comfort zone 🤓

Absolutely ... remember Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger helped seal the 104 million dollar deal to replace ALL GEORGIA VOTING MACHINES with Dominion ... on the basis of SAFETY.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Kemp is also known for bringing China "investment" into GA too, right?

China is a top source for imports and our third-largest export market, we welcome thousands of Chinese visitors every year to the peach state. And we’re constantly helping to develop new opportunities for Chinese companies.”

The video is from Georgia’s Department of Economic Development, and what Kemp says in it is a promise that dates back a decade. In 2010, when he was still Georgia’s secretary of state, Kemp met with the ambassador of the Chinese consulate in Houston. He said with Georgia facing an economic downturn, “He is ready to spare no efforts to promote the economic and trade cooperation between Georgia and China.”


posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 07:10 PM
Okay okay ... so Brian Kemp has ties to China and Dominion ... but he doesn't have anything to do with Elaine Chao right?



Gov. Brian Kemp has selected Trump Administration official and former Georgia executive Jannine Miller to serve as state planning director at the Georgia Department of Transportation.

Miller currently is senior advisor to U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao.


So Chao put a controller groomed by her in place for Kemp in January 2020.

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 07:53 PM

The Council on Foreign Relations is the Rothschild’s invisible ministry of war.


Speaking to seminarians in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI blasted “the power of Evil in finance and in the media, two major powers which in themselves are good, but can be so abused as to become often the contrary of the real intentions.”

“Surely we need information,” Ratzinger said, “but the power of appearance, an appearance that replaces reality itself, becomes more and more powerful, and man does not see reality any more.” At the end, “the virtual world becomes truer and stronger.” Instead, “we want no appearance, but truth, and this gives us real freedom.

Pope Benedict XVI Condemns Banking Cartel’s Reality Replacement: Such As McCain’s CFR, Rothschild’s Bank Bailouts, & Citizen Debt Enslavement!

"An appearance that replaces reality itself ..." Do Pope Benedict's words remind you of anything?

Remember Kerry Thornley? Yeah, the buddy of Oswald? Author of the Principia Discordia fake bible for the fake religion of Eris Goddess of Chaos and Confusion? (the original text of which is part of the JFK assassination archives)

It is called the Sacred Chao. I appoint you Keepers of It. Therein you will find anything you like. Speak of Me as Discord, to show contrast to the pentagon. Tell constricted mankind that there are no rules, unless they choose to invent rules. Keep close the words of Syadasti: 'TIS AN ILL WIND THAT BLOWS NO MINDS. And remember that there is no tyranny in the State of Confusion. For further information, consult your pineal gland.


and in another place ...

With our concept-making apparatus called "the brain" we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently.

It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T) True reality is a level deeper than is the level of concept. We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The order is in the grid.

Pope Benedict "an appearance that replaces reality itself"

Pope Ravenhurst (Thornley) " The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently."

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 08:04 PM

Jim Garrison later claimed that Thornley and Lee Harvey Oswald were involved together in covert CIA operations. He also argued that Thornley had impersonated Oswald between the years 1961 and 1963. In his book On the Trail of the Assassins (1988) Garrison insists that Thornley was friends with another possible conspirator, Johnny Roselli.

In 1992 Thornley appeared on a television programme, A Current Affair. He confessed that he had been part of a conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy. However, he did not give the names of his fellow conspirators.


posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 08:45 PM
Thornley's original drawing of Sacred Chao for the Principia:

In 1978, a copy of a work from Kerry Thornley titled "THE PRINCIPIA Discordia or HOW THE WEST WAS LOST" was placed in the HSCA JFK collections as document 010857

How the West Was Lost.

Sacred Chao.

Elaine Chao.

Ms. Chao and Mr. McConnell married in 1993, but her campaign donations, along with those of her parents, sisters and brothers-in-law, began flowing years before the wedding. The first $10,000 came in June 1989. In the 30 years since, 13 members of the extended Chao family have given a total of more than $1 million to Mr. McConnell’s campaigns and to political action committees tied to him. In 2008, James Chao gave the couple a gift of as much as $25 million, vaulting Mr. McConnell into the ranks of the richest senators.


If Mr. Trump were serious about winning the trade war with China, why would he put Chao in charge of US Shipping, when her families company's business is shipping American iron ore to China????

edit on 24-12-2020 by Gryphon66 because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 24 2020 @ 08:59 PM
Finally, voter fraud.

Brian Kemp, Governor of Georgia, who delivered the State's Electors to Biden ... one day Trump threatens him openly with prison, the next, he invites him to the White House Christmas Party.

Some of you have asked over and over ... why doesn't Trump pull the trigger? Why hasn't he declared martial law?

Why have his "legal team" looked like such bumbling idiots? Do they want to win?

If I were going to do voter fraud and cover it up, I would have both sides in on the deal. Mitch McConnell is a nobody that Elaine Chao took to manipulate and mold into a perfect tool for the CCP. McConnell gave Trump cover by instructing the Senate Republicans NOT TO OPPOSE the affirmation of the Electors ... which would be Trump's literal last chance to overcome the "voter fraud."

Voter fraud, if I were doing it, would be the golden apple rolled into the party "for the beautiful one."

The only way to always win is to control both sides.


posted on Dec, 25 2020 @ 06:38 AM
Dang, you come across straight racist here. We know your catch phrase “aim low”

a reply to: Gryphon66

edit on 25-12-2020 by Rob808 because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 25 2020 @ 02:43 PM

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Warren was sounding the alarms in 2019 about threats to our election systems.

Why didn't anyone listen?
Where is she now?

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