The Bill just passsed will amend the Insurrection Act

ETA - This bill was part of National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021. It is from July 2020.

H.Amdt. 833 (Escobar) to H.R. 6395: To require certifications be made to Congress when the President deploys active duty military within the United States during civil unrest by amending the Insurrection Act in Title 10, Chapter 13 of U.S. Code.


This was a vote to approve or reject amendment H.Amdt. 833 (Veronica Escobar) to H.R. 6395. The title of the amendment is H.Amdt. 833 (Escobar) to H.R. 6395: To require certifications be made to Congress when the President deploys active duty military within the United States during civil unrest by amending the Insurrection Act in Title 10, Chapter 13 of U.S. Code..

H.Amdt. 833 (Escobar) to H.R. 6395

The Escobar bill. This bill needs to be vetoed but it can't be.

So many traitors voted for the bill that even if Trump vetoes it, it will get sent back and pass without Trumps signature.

What else is in this huge bill? We won't know until after it passes.

Things are getting too crazy and out of control. It's like they want to piss people off.

After all the BSing, waiting and debating they give some people $600. What an insult.

Most of us already knew that they despise us and are in it for money and power.

But if there was still any doubt, 2020 has again laid the truth out bare for all to see.

Good to know. Now the president can’t do anything without congress approval. Police action it is.

a reply to: LookingAtMars
What's that say to the people who need the 600$ but weren't even considered?

Like disabled mental health test subjects who managed to avoid suicide and made it to adulthood?

so much junk in this bill for once I agree with the squad, its absurd that they turn a 5500 page bill over for review then demand an up or down vote 2 hours later.

Hey Nancy 600 is crumbs you twat...

a reply to: wdkirk

Now that all depends on who's president, doesn't it?

originally posted by: Nivhk
a reply to: LookingAtMars
What's that say to the people who need the 600$ but weren't even considered?

Like disabled mental health test subjects who managed to avoid suicide and made it to adulthood?

They should already be getting a check from the gov.

And how do you know that somewhere in that bill it doesn't say that disabled mental health test subjects will all be locked up when they get covID.

They might be sending a red herring message for future presidents and dare them to do it anyway without congress 😃

originally posted by: Irishhaf
so much junk in this bill for once I agree with the squad, its absurd that they turn a 5500 page bill over for review then demand an up or down vote 2 hours later.

Hey Nancy 600 is crumbs you twat...

Obamacare was like 2500 pages and Nancy said just vote on it and read it later.

a reply to: billxam yup, depends your position. Personally I like it. Any power we grant the Executive can be used by Presidents you don't like or approve. I do not even want the President deploying troops against civilians on only his/her say-so.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

do you think it will pass in the senate if ol mitch even lets it come up for a vote? then do you think that all the states will approve it? cause that's what it's going to take.

well there are a couple of other ways, but 26 out of 27 went the way above.

a reply to: TheBoomersRBusted
I also like not allowing humans control and run parts of the government with no oversight possible by the citizen populace.

Oh wait....

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: LookingAtMars

do you think it will pass in the senate if ol mitch even lets it come up for a vote? then do you think that all the states will approve it? cause that's what it's going to take.

well there are a couple of other ways, but 26 out of 26 went the way above.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate on Monday passed an $892 billion coronavirus aid package, throwing a lifeline to the nation’s pandemic-battered economy, while also funding federal government activities through September 2021.

The House of Representatives passed the measure earlier on Monday. It now heads to President Donald Trump to sign into law.

U.S. Senate passes $892 billion coronavirus aid bill, sends to Trump to sign

It appears that the COVID stimulus bill also neuters the authority of POTUS as it relates to the Insurrection Act.

It's a done deal.

In the future bills of this length should be filibustered simply by reading the complete text of the bill. Wouldn’t even be filibustering really,

That way snakes can’t sneak nonsense through.

Should outlaw rider bills on that note too.

a reply to: LookingAtMars

you can't amend the Constitution without the 3/4 of the states ratifying it,


Four Ways to Pass an Amendment to the US Constitution

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: LookingAtMars

you can't amend the Constitution without the 3/4 of the states ratifying it,


Four Ways to Pass an Amendment to the US Constitution

Thomas Jefferson Signed the Insurrection Act in 1807 to Foil a Plot by Aaron Burr

I don't think it is part of the COTUS.

Jefferson stuck to his principles and in December of 1806 asked Congress to pass a bill “authorising the emploiment of the land or Naval forces of the US. in cases of insurrection.” This legislation, known as the Insurrection Act, would take another three months to become law. When it was finally signed on March 3, 1807, Aaron Burr had already been in custody for 11 days.

The President has 10 days [not including Sunday] to sign a bill or it becomes law. If he waits 9 days and vetoes it, it has to go back to Congress for an override vote. If Congress adjourns during the 10-day period when the president has the bill, the bill doesn’t become law. This is a "Pocket Veto." I suspect Crazy Nancy knows this and won't adjourn until the time is up. (What happens if there is no speaker of the house or senate majority leader available to run things?)

a reply to: LookingAtMars

i'm fairly sure that the 10 U.S. Code Chapter 13 § 253 is part of the Constitution.

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it— (1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

10 U.S. Code § 253 - Interference with State and Federal law

This legislation is everything that is wrong with the modern American government.

However, I'm glad to see that there are a few diamonds in the dungheap.

The Insurrection Act is meant for violent revolution and national disasters. It's been modified many times throughout it's life as the needs of the nation changed.

Any President's ability to command the military to attack Americans should be limited and certainly shouldn't be used because he or she lost the election.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Agree with you this time, this bill is a perfect example of whats wrong in DC.

I have friends from all across the political spectrum angry at this turd burger they are calling a steak.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Gryphon66

Agree with you this time, this bill is a perfect example of whats wrong in DC.

I have friends from all across the political spectrum angry at this turd burger they are calling a steak.

If this doesn't convince Americans that a) they don't give a # about us and b) they aren't on separate sides ... nothing ever will.