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The Dangerous Irony of a Trump Dictatorship

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posted on Dec, 21 2020 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I can only go by the arguments you've made where you have opined on the matter.

If I have you pegged wrong, that is entirely possible. Were mostly just words on a screen to each other.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

I'd love to be able to say I saw this coming years ago...

But, I didn't. It wasn't until the Kavanaugh hearings/witch-hunt, that I finally realized that BAMN wasn't just hyperbolic rhetoric... It was the game plan.

The late JFK wouldn't recognize todays Democratic party.

I'm fairly certain that Jimmy Carter is wondering what's become of his party...

Socialism to the right of me, socialism to the left of me, and dead ahead looms yet more socialism...*

Oh, well, the Republic still stands--for as long as we can keep it.

*with apologies to Lord Tennyson.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: tinktinktink

Zoweeee there Mr. Tink, that Trumpian sausage must be toxic huh? Please wake me up when you get to comparing me with a dog licking its balls and maybe then I might take you seriously. Nah, never mind, that just ain't gonna happen.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 02:27 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

My words dont matter to you cause i cant speak in terms you understand or I dont just say things you like to hear. That is the same reason you decided to bed with the Biden.


Would you like some sweeties little one come a little closer. In a nutshell, thats why u love your sugar daddy and dont care how much it makes you look like an enabler to the child molesting father.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: tinktinktink
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

My words dont matter to you cause i cant speak in terms you understand or I dont just say things you like to hear. That is the same reason you decided to bed with the Biden.


Would you like some sweeties little one come a little closer. In a nutshell, thats why u love your sugar daddy and dont care how much it makes you look like an enabler to the child molesting father.


and this, kids, exemplifies why this whole thread is so hugely and unintentionally ironic.
edit on 22-12-2020 by Whodathunkdatcheese because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

GREAT OP, OP!! S&F!

You are straight-up correct!



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero
Yes exactly! The tyranny is the NWO nanny staters not Trump. The nanny starters lock us down and make us wear masks for our own good. They want to force us to take vaccines laced with goodness only knows ... probably sterilants because we know Bill Gates has Ben a proponent of depopulation for many years.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 10:15 AM
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say I saw this coming years ago... But, I didn't. It wasn't until the Kavanaugh hearings/witch-hunt, that I finally realized that BAMN wasn't just hyperbolic rhetoric... It was the game plan.
a reply to: seagull
Unfortunately Kavanaugh caved to the screaming of the compromised Roberts so in the end it never even mattered.
Oh yah and Jimmy Carter was a trilateralist. Even my dad knew that back in the day.
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posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

The left will call Trump a Hitler but THEY'RE the ones that are planning to go full on nazi and are already doing it thanks to many Governors such as in NY, NJ, PA and California.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:33 AM
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Before he was elected, I had pinned Trump as a narcissist who wanted to go down as the best president in US history. I still feel that was accurate.

He really did have plenty of opportunities to stretch some fascistic muscle this year, but he didnt. That impressed me somewhat, given how the power of the executive branch has been expanded over the decades (and in a "health crisis" in particular).

The media is essentially punching people directly in their brains. Sticking needles in juussstttt the right places to make people dance like reanimated corpses. Then they just say "Trump made us do it!"

And people believe it...

I think there are two realistic options: 1) Trump was controlled opposition all along, or 2) He knew what he wanted to do, just not quite how to accomplish it and the people advising him are derpy (at best).

Really all options point either to a system or organization that is as dangerous as people have been convinced Trump is.. Their eyes and neurological process are saturated with Trump so completely that they cant see the forest for the trees.

Perhaps the biggest deception is that any of the problems that are so "important" to some can be alleviated by politics and government in any way, shape, or form. Not only that, they have been unknowingly convinced that the myopic solutions marketed by the corporate-political apparatus are beyond "correct..." They are righteous and the only way to "solve the worlds problems."

Really, Im kind of disappointed in the so-called "right" too. It was their responsibility (if you will..) to present actual paths that dont involve the government. Yet, the vast majority spend their time reacting to the corporate-political religion.

Very, very few seem to examine the possible full scope of what is happening, much less how to actually fight it. As the corporate-political religion begins its crusade in earnest, the largest social group opposing it ("the right") will have their brains just as saturated with manipulation as the group they oppose ("the left").

TL;DR: The two largest social groups are so busy fighting over corporate-political religious doctrine that that same corporate-political apparatus essentially has carte blanche in directing the course of our civilization. While many are focused on either thinking Trump is the most tyrannical man to ever exist, or the solution to everything ("trust the plan and dont do anything else!"), this novel religion is building hardened bunkers around the tentacles it has already wrapped all around the world.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Indeed. Understanding what anyone here truly thinks or more a valid assessment of another is not easily accomplished by written word via internet forums. Especially around hot button issues. You may think that I am a Biden supporter, as many here do and I understand that I think. This whole conundrum of Trump vrs The World seems to suck people into polar camps that severely limit our perceptions of those on the ''opposite side''

One of the strongest limits I have noticed around here is an inability to grasp that an aversion to Trump does not automatically translate to support for Biden. For me, Biden is only a small step away from Trump yet many here seem to take my criticizim of Trump to be a ringing endorsement of Biden. Ha. Would that I found any one else to endorse even half as strongly as most Trump supporters on these forums support Trump.

I was a teen in the Kennedy years and like many others at the time was sucked into that ''Camelot'' dream so prevalent at that time. Then we ran into LBJ and then Nixon and on into that tired old Hollywood celebrity that had been a soap salesman prior to being POTUS. Through Mr. New World Order and into the age of Slick Willy sliding into Mr. Dimwit whatcha doing behind my back Bush.

By the time Obama rolled around I didn't care much any more. I voted for his first term but was almost immediately disappointed in his lack of new direction. Meet the New Boss, yeah, right.

But for me, Trump is an entirely different matter. Given almost any other Republican in 16 and I would not have had to hold my nose and voted for Clinton and afterwords gone and changed my Depends. Trump supporters have no real idea just how distasteful that was.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm starting to think similarly.

Yesterday I agreed with AOC.

With AOC, dude!

We need to come together. What is happening right now benefits no one.

I was a Rand Paul supporter in 2016. I did not support Trump until the very last minute of the campaign. I held my nose and voted for him.

I did not regret that vote and voted for him again. This is not to say that I do not recognize his flaws. But the histeria surrounding the Trump presidency with regard to his opposition was far too much to bear.
edit on 12 22 2020 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: CitizenZero

The left will call Trump a Hitler but THEY'RE the ones that are planning to go full on nazi and are already doing it thanks to many Governors such as in NY, NJ, PA and California.


How are Democrats going "full on Nazi"?

The Godwin is strong within you.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm starting to think similarly.

Yesterday I agreed with AOC.

With AOC, dude!

We need to come together. What is happening right now benefits no one.


We need to forget all professional politicians.

We need to find ways to reduce the government to Constitutional levels.

We need to resist anything that tries to split us into any version of "us and them."

We need to ignore the corporate media.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Agreed.

We're being manipulated into fighting each other when we should be fighting a treasonous cabal of globalist scum who are only interested in power and money.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Gryphon66

Agreed.

We're being manipulated into fighting each other when we should be fighting a treasonous cabal of globalist scum who are only interested in power and money.


I agree completely.

Well said.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Serdgiam

Whoever you are behind that keyboard, I applaud you for the best ATS post I have read in a long while. I would like to see your post as the foundation of a platform for someone to run with in 24



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Serdgiam

I sound like a broken record at times, but I will keep saying: there are not two sides.

Excellent post.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I don't care for AOC. I think she was a simple woman who decided to give it a shot and out of nowhere, won her election. At that point the Dem machine needed a pawn to show the world that things had changed in their party and they thrust her to the forefront of their battle. A rook was all she was to them. And she allowed it. I attribute that to her, over night, being thrust into the spotlight of a national battle when in reality all her position should have been was one of helping to govern a very small corner of the population. I find that I like some of the things she points out but still am adverse to the manner in which the machine tries to use her.

The manner in which Trump is acting now fits two different understandings of him to a tee I think. On the one hand he appears to be the true champion of freedom fighting in an almost Alamo-like stand against the hoards of entrenched political and corporate powers that be, while on the other he appears to be the whiny little baby narcissist totally deluded by his own grand fantasies of personal grandeur. And as much as that first scenario appeals to me, the second seems much more of a realistic comprehension of the man.



posted on Dec, 22 2020 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm starting to think similarly.

Yesterday I agreed with AOC.

With AOC, dude!

We need to come together. What is happening right now benefits no one.


We need to forget all professional politicians.

We need to find ways to reduce the government to Constitutional levels.

We need to resist anything that tries to split us into any version of "us and them."

We need to ignore the corporate media.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but.....was Trump not the most "unprofessional", high-level non-politician to occupy office in recent memory? Sure sure, there are the Al Frankens and Jesse Venturas, but I mean, this guy became POTUS.

Now, was he crude, coarse, misinformed at times, arrogant, impulsive? No question.

But the guy honestly solicited input and considered policy making based on posts from ordinary citizens on Twitter FFS. He (intentionally) BYPASSED the MSM and WH press corp in his dealings with the American people, for which he paid an unimaginable price, in terms of P.R. and negative coverage.

But I'm trying to comprehend what it would mean for someone to be an non "professional politician" as you describe it, but have the ....cache? ....street creds? ...."pulse of the people?" to garner enough support from occupants of the middle ground on both the Left and Right.

The mainstream media are complete, merciless SNIPERS in going after candidates that aren't in the approved politician category. Witness what they did to Gary "Aleppo" Johnson in '16, annihilating his campaign of a question on some backwater city in Syria. Johnson's offense was not being a Clinton or Bush and having the handlers to brief him on such 'nuances', not having the press corps eating out of his hand, or having an ear piece to get the pre-ordained debate points in real-time.

Does this not seem like a contradiction? Was not some of the most fervent and loud criticism of Trump about "shattering all norms", "un-presidential behavior", "normalizing rude behavior" (some of us call that no B.S. or straight talk)

Not that this will probably matter anyway, b/c I can guarantee that right now the GOP is internally discussing safeguards/protocols to make their primary process more like the Democrats, "politics with guardrails" where folks like Trump can't crash the party and win the nomination. Superdelegates, or some other mechanism to keep the non "professional politicians" firmly on the outside.

When folks describe their aversion/dislike of "professional politicians", I then go on to wonder what is it about the Trump persona that p!ssed them off, for like, acting as a non-politician.




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