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Uncle Sam: I Want YOU...to believe.

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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: DupontDeux

Good catch. It wasn’t a slip of the tongue but maybe it was a slip of his filter. To me it just supports that this is all manufactured. He knows there is going to be more of “what we’ve been seeing” because he is in on the crafting and propagation of the story.


That's the impression I've been getting from these guys too. Something's up, but it's kind of a wait and see as to what it might be. I said this in the "Q" thread, but since it fits here:

originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Remember those interesting women that hung around Epstein? Sure you do, they had the most interesting hands. Then there is that disease that causes the skin to become scale like. Add those two together and poof Lizard people/army/whatever.

Toss in something like a Copper Airship and you have the makings of a massive alien invasion HOAX.

Now where will this invasion take place? Well remember when China was trying to take that area of India, and as we all know if aliens land in India their government wouldn't question if they were real or not since the idea of aliens is a very real idea for them. Now if that alien invasion started to attack people we would see an actual alien invasion taking place in real time on tv with verifiable evidence to back up the attacks.

Quite honestly I'm surprised that this ploy wasn't used before.


Brennan and friends coming out about this now, really could be telling as to what all those weird things were/are about.

Imagine if a large quiet ship landed in a major world city, and scaly looking people with strange looking hands came off the ship. If the media and a few former political officials started to rant about how the aliens are here and we must submit, how many people will argue against it? How many would believe a politician that says and can prove that the "invasion" is nothing but a HOAX? Just things to keep in mind.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

So if TPTB are heavily hinting at something, I will continue to remain skeptical until someone actually comes up with the beef. No matter how much I think it could be true.


Exactly. I expect some "beef" but I fear it will be the food-glue kind.

I think the most important issue here is whether we are witnessing an unprecedented & official operation to propagate the idea of non-human intelligence.

If one comes to that conclusion—and I think it’s pretty evident—then we have to ask ourselves do we trust the apparent source?

The Navy, for example, has played along quite nicely with the IC-connected “whistleblowers” and the MSM is dutifully doing it’s part. The coordination is, I think, apparent. It truly is unprecedented.

Regardless of where we personally think it might be going is subordinate, for the time being, to being wary of the revelations themselves.

As intellectually & philosophically tempting it might be to have our “are we alone” questions answered, being wary is a solid starting point.

Further, I don't think "believers" are the target here as much as making the heretofore skeptical John Q into a believer.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Okay, remove the brain stem and what does the rest of the brain do in terms of autonomous function?

Just asking.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk




Okay, remove the brain stem and what does the rest of the brain do in terms of autonomous function?


Nothing.
It doesn't function at all. But enough off topic jibberjabber.

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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

Sounds like you're saying that we need to be smarter than Michael Chambers and faster then Patty (mirror the Twilight Zone episode: To Serve Man), or should we be on the look out for a post op-Allen Leighton (Outer Limits episode: The Architects of Fear)

I think it should be a little of both.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: DupontDeux
a reply to: The GUT

Something REALLY interesting he said was something I first thought I misheard, so I went back and, re watched the bit and even checked the transcript to be sure I wasn't just imagining it:

HE speaks as if he knows FOR A FACT that we will be seeing more of this.


Check it out, it's at 2:19:





02:17
but um i think some of the phenomena
02:19
we're going to be seeing
02:22
continues to be unexplained and
02:26
might in fact be some type of phenomenon
02:29
that is the result of something that
02:33
we don't yet understand and that
02:36
could involve some type of activity
02:40
that some might say constitutes a a
02:43
different form of life



" ... I think some of the phenomena we're going to be seeing ... "

"Going to be seeing" - that is not a slip of the tongue. That is a phrasing used when you want to project you are sure that something is going to happen.


Of course it might be his personal and uninformed believe, but nevertheless I find it VERY interesting.


Nice Catch




posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

I guess no one got the Antarctica reference.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: Guyfriday

I guess no one got the Antarctica reference.


Oh, sorry. When you spend a long time researching Shadow People you hear that a lot. The funny part about your comment was I told my wife that someone had an issue with the thing. I wasn't even thinking about "The Thing".



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 07:18 PM
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It's not going to be be interdimensional, it's going to be Biblical and they already got half of America in the bag, primed and ready for the apocalypse. There's also a negative side.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 07:19 PM
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Great idea for a thread, GUT! Interestingly, right before I read your post, I finished an article about how the Intelligence Community has a hot new foe to tangle with in 2021- Satanists. The devilish group "Order of the Nine Angles" has been name-checked in various key incidents over the past few years, and now they're in the IC crosshairs. Its easy to see this as a bone being thrown to religious Q-communities , but could it also factor in to what you're talking about here? Many of us here at ATS are knowledgeable and open-minded enough to discuss crypto-terrestrials, ultra terrestrials, UAPs, IDH, etc. But where the rubber meets the road, in the VFW halls and the trailer parks and megachurches , many other people will be asking ONE question: "Are these demons or angels?"



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 08:34 PM
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Maybe it's like a cosmic 'Great Race' to see which team can gather the most DNA samples in an alotted time.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
It's not going to be be interdimensional, it's going to be Biblical and they already got half of America in the bag, primed and ready for the apocalypse. There's also a negative side.


"Heaven" is an interdimensional place. That's part of the issue because "Heaven" is in disrepute. The Old Testament is nothing but a travelogue of a few desert tribes. It ought to be on Trip Advisor. The New Testament is just a diatribe against the Roman Empire. Once you get past that crap, the whole idea takes on a 'new dimension' (pun intended.) Once your consciousness (soul) departs your body (container) you move into a body-less state (Heaven) to recoup and plan your next foray into yet another incarnation.

The UFO guys have figured a lot of this stuff out, but if they told us, people like you would freak out because you believe deeply in God and Jesus and all that nonsense. You couldn't handle the fact that most of your religion is complete nonsense. And the scientific establishment, for their part, couldn't handle the fact that another dimension (Heaven) or reincarnation exists.

So, it's best not to tell you because it would be too damaging to your fragile psyches. And that's what all this is about.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: Guyfriday

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: Guyfriday

I guess no one got the Antarctica reference.


Oh, sorry. When you spend a long time researching Shadow People you hear that a lot. The funny part about your comment was I told my wife that someone had an issue with the thing. I wasn't even thinking about "The Thing".


I am one who does not believe that this was a fake story.




His words: “We are all in danger. It is evil itself.” and showed a photograph of a pyramid located at the South Pole as show here.

Mr. Aldrin seems to be referring to this object, as seen in an serial photo from Google Earth … As has been reported by worldwide media, US Secretary of State John Kerry recently traveled to the South Pole, allegedly to become better informed about “Climate Change.” Kerry was the highest ranking US government official ever to visit the South Pole, and his visit struck many as unusual. Few saw any purpose whatsoever to sending America’s top Diplomat to the farthest reaches of the earth to see … ice.

Now, with Buzz Aldrin’s tweet, and its strange deletion, folks are wondering if sending America’s top Diplomat to no-man’s land, perhaps had something to do with Diplomacy after all. Is there some entity there with which we need Diplomatic contact? … If so, why did Buzz Aldrin warn that we are all in danger? Why did he call it “Evil itself?”


Then he had a heart attack




Famed astronaut Buzz Aldrin had to be evacuated from the South Pole for medical reasons, the National Science Foundation said Thursday, and will be taken to nearby New Zealand for treatment.

The NSF, which is providing the air lift, said that a New York Air National Guard plane will transport Aldrin from Antarctica to New Zealand “as soon as possible.” He appears to have been in Antarctica as a tourist, posting several photos in advance of his journey to Twitter.

The emergency request for an “ailing visitor” was made by The Antarctic Company, a South African tourism company, according to the NSF. The International Association of Antarctic Tour Operators confirmed Aldrin’s evacuation, saying he was “stable” when he was taken from the South Pole to McMurdo base in Antarctica.

Aldrin, 86, was the second man to walk on the moon as part of the 1969 Apollo 11 crew.

time.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 09:13 PM
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Good morning folks. Just my own two bobs worth.

I thought this important:



"Going to be seeing" - that is not a slip of the tongue. That is a phrasing used when you want to project you are sure that something is going to happen.
-- DupontDeux



" . . . when you are sure something is going to happen."

So what is going to happen?

Something to do with something called "the phenomenon" (apparently).

Something will happen, something is happening; foreknowledge.

Could be secret tech being brought out into the open in response to the Solarwinds hack. WW3 would fit the bill to put in the open BBTUFOs or whatever. A domestic (no aliens required) scenario. (Funny how the Solarwinds hack timeline is coincidentally similar to the plandemic ; )

Now if we include aliens in the scenario, the event is probably one of two things; either the humans are taking action or the aliens are taking action.

The aliens could be from here (earth) or elsewhere.

Has the USA stepped on someone's tail? Say Antarctica and Admiral Byrd? That would suggest the possibility of peace negotiations. The TTSA could conceivably be the public face to negotiations. The TTSA are always saying nothing and waiting on announcements. In this scenario the TTSA would not know what to do or say until something arises from negotiations.

If the aliens are from elsewhere, then it follows that there are reasons why the aliens would want to make a move. Why would ETs or IDs decide to make a move now when they could have done so at anytime?

The altruistic "Welcome to the Galactic Federation"? The whole concept of federation in practice is a control system to create a central power. Just look at the USA, Soviet Union, China, Australia or the EU. The states lose all their important freedoms and rights. The time to include humanity in a "Galactic Federation" would before we had nukes and genetic engineering.

Let's put altruism aside.

What about everyone's favourite: the "perceived threat" reason.

Technology as the perceived threat?

Nukes hidden in an old Gemini capsule? - Probably not.

Bio-warfare? - probably if there was biological material obtained from a flying saucer crash or otherwise.

Trans-humanism? More likely that will lead to our own extinction. Probably not a big concern.

These things and others can be countered.

How about the rise of colonialism and global corporatism at a time when science is looking towards the stars?

Imagine corporations going to the stars . . . . .

How about the CCP?

To be fair; the British and Americans thought gunboat diplomacy was the way to negotiate peaceful trade.

The idea of the CCP sending a billion people into the cosmos is probably the scariest thought imaginable.

Technology is probably not the problem, ideology is probably the real problem for the neighbours.


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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Schuyler--the perennially grouchy old man--goes all vague new age Buddha while telling other folk they live in fantasy land.

I old enough to remember when you were doing cutting-edge critiques of Greer.

Therefore I'm also old enough to remember when--not long after that--you adopted many of Greer's views.

Love ya' tho' man.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

You are correct, my friend. First, this is similar to what Pandolfi has been suggesting for years. It's the CIA line for those close enough but without access to the compartment that we don't really have a handle on what we are "involved with" but get ready for some new science that we can filter into society when we have exploited what we can.

SO. Brennan - nothing for nothing , a Muslim convert by design, playing another role. Adept in saddle of the beast as any Director, Bottom line - I wouldn't trust a f&*^*&g word out of that Deep State lackey's mouth.

Just my opinion and nutshell synopsis: First, Obama did not lie on the Jimmy Kimmel Show a few years back: there is an active ET presence on the Planet. For what its worth, I was involved in some of the phenomena, as it is now called.

The technology is based on a level of physics that is suppressed for military purposes which include signal non-locality, time dilation and Einstein-Rosen Bridges, tracking of an observed ecosystem and species "cultivation" by technologically superior species who have navigated the excess of the four comprehended dimensions taught or conceptualized , as such. There are approximately 16 based on the square root of Pi and are accessible through consciousness driven technology and technology driven by consciousness.

Here's is the bottom line as I am and Brennan is probably aware: superstition, occult, myth, and ignorance are captivating and capping the full human advancement and evolution when the reality of existence is interacted, observed, and in a macro sense, managed by technologically advanced species who understand and manipulate space and time. As spacetime is relative, some civilizations can be relatively billions of years more advanced and adapted for role in a conscious quantum machine/Godverse. I don't think the analysis of Brennan should get sidetracked by subterranean humanoids, elves, the demon haunted Earth, Atlanteans, spooky business at Skinwalker ranch, etc.

this is about advanced extraterrestrial species that can navigate spacetime and have interacted and in many cases genetically manipulated our species past recorded time. and now we are beginning to disclose that fact but are not clear to show how this has been put together, just yet. Most of the problem , from my understanding, revolves around our notion of linear time, which is illusory. I believe if the military understand spacetime can and is manipulated, and doesn't understand the consequence, there is a grave danger because of the perceived security risk and the effect on a civilization unprepared for the emerging mental environment. This reality will be difficult to comprehend for many decades.

It is coming, however, maybe another two generations, IMO...

Some of the capability is nuts and bolts and others are a mastery of the mental environment through much more advanced neuro capability, some engineered genetically in type 3 and 4 civilizations. this includes AI and hybridization of species. The real question, which I have not accurately no has Brennan ascertained, are intentions of the interaction species and assorted proxies and manifestations. Friend or foe: "neither."

I cna not provide the reader proof of why I know this or what I am saying. I am however, suggesting to the debunkers and skeptics that there are multiple things going on in operatic fashion across the Universe. Simply because it is not known in science, it is because science is sometimes the last to know.

Thanks for posting the Brennan thing, Gut. I hope you keep digging for the truth out there.

P4K: "A guy you like"


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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Guyfriday

So you are:

1. Assuming they actually have data on something. You actually think that what they were doing at Skinwalker was having to do with unexplained phenomena? I don’t.

2. Already believing in a specific set of theories/ideas.

So you are kind of the perfect student for them...


I think we are all in danger and it is pure evil!


Definitely!

ETA: I was playing along, with that comment, which I thought was meant for humor.
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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Yep "The Thing", you are talking about this picture of a mountain:


Aren't you, or am I confused?

Picture was taken from this site: halonews .com
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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Buzz seems to be a guy who would be great to share some drinks with. Quite a wit and great "war stories", no doubt.

But he doesn't drink any more.

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posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Yep "The Thing", you are talking about this picture of a mountain:


Verifiabe source of the Aldrin quote, please?




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