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Final Conclusions Regarding UFOs

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posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

The Buddhists call such things "hungry ghosts".

I myself am already dead, in many ways, I have no fear of biological death.

I'm not interested in whether "I" exist or do not exist.

I'm at peace, and need no more answers personally.

I would avoid being run over by a bus.. my wife needs my income
so that she can retire comfortably at some point.



I feel the same as I grow older... It gets tiring to constantly play the game. I'm looking forward to retiring in 4 years as at that point I will no longer have a ton of clearances and I can jump into psychedelics and spend as much time as I want traveling around the world, not really in some quest, but there are experiences and places I want to see and do. I say this while already being in 70+ countries and all seven continents already, but to just go live in lets say Peru for 4 months would be cool...

Death at some point becomes a calming force....


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posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Annee

Was sound mostly missing in the environment around you? or just no sound from the 'craft'?

Mostly muted sound in the environment around you is a symptom of 'high strangeness'.



The “craft”. It was noisy around me, so even if it did make noise, I probably wouldn’t have heard it.

The whitish/yellowish glow was unusual though. Did not look like a sun reflection.

But, I understand what UFO actually means.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Sounds nice!

I would like to retire in 3 years, but I can't. Well unless I go totally blind, then I can.

My wife is 9 years younger than me, and has a fear of not having sufficient funds for long-term care, when her time comes. I'm probably going to work until DOK (dead on keyboard) for her sake.

I do have a bit more research I could do, but it would time, money and help that I don't have,
so I don't let it eat away at me -- much! (still just a regular old human you know).

Kev



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Retirement plans now?

I can't. Ever. Huge mortgage and I really like my house.

Don't particularly enjoy travel but puttering sounds nice. I enjoyed working from home.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Would you mind saying what you do for work?
I'm an old computer guy from way back.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Bean counting, mostly. But I loathe data entry so I've automated my tasks as much as possible.

Computer science major, when punch cards were a thing.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Willtell

It's final for ME, as I'm no longer researching 'UFOs'.

If I take up research again, then it may well not be final at that point.

That's all I meant.



I understand that.

But one doesn't have to always research something to get to its reality.
In-fact sometimes when we get away from something we get nearer to it. Not always, of course, but sometimes.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

the 'shower effect' !



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: Phage

It's too bad that you can't keep working remote after Covid.

I think that WFH boosts productivity for good employees..

and bad ones will slack off, whether they work onprem or remote.


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posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Or, "Oh crap, where did that file go?"
To be rewritten a whole lot better.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear




I feel that in many ways, that I've wasted my life.


Hey!

"________ is not working to his full potential."

Sound like a familiar report card comment?


OMGawd — I never want to hear those words again.

Plus - “You tested in the top 1% of the state. But, you’re failing cuz you don’t do the work”.

I hated school. I wanted to think. They wanted me to to be a mind numbing robot. Read/memorize/take a test.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Didn't affect my productivity much, either way.

But I'm driving every day again and buying a lot more gas. Don't really like that.

I think I'll bail on the small talk now, as enjoyable as it is.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Exactly.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yeah, or the sitting home chilling having a drink or watching Ancient Aliens( whoops—that's a no-no) or watching Oprah or whatever just chillin and boom, it all comes to you.

Or you're sitting home, and a dish crashes in the kitchen all by itself while you're on the internet looking up UFOS, and you get your gun, in my case my knife, and go look, and there's a broken saucer on the floor with an antenna signal cracked into it!

That will get a guy wondering, at least.



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

So you are as good a person to tell as anyone; the entire reason I came back to ATS, was to decide whether I could do something positive with all my research, or whether I should perhaps donate time to some other worthy effort.

THAT, and to pass on a few other thoughts, in case it might be of value to a fellow researcher.

At some point my spending all this time posting on ATS will cease to be of value. Perhaps that time has already come and gone!



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

But these days, there are religious people who want to lob nukes around, to force
'jesus' to come back sooner.

Such as Senator Ted Cruz.

The utility has run it's course.. it's now more dangerous than helpful.



But then the greatest genocides have happen when religion was removed. You can say religion is bad for humans, but you are NOT thinking about what humans would be like without it.

All in all religion is a moot point, humans would not be human without it, so it is not something that can be removed, and the reason may not be what you think I'll say.

What really makes humans human is that we can and live very comfortably in the abstract world, we spend much of our time there. You and I right now are 100% there are we talk. Look around you...EVERYTHING you see was an abstract thought first unable to exist in the natural universe until we created it like a God, I guess. Hell your breakfast was an abstract thought first before you created it.

Religion is an abstract thought just like blackholes are.. To remove religion is saying you want to remove that ability we have to think and create in the abstract. Religion is as much a part of what makes us humans as anything else is, so no it will never go away in one form or another and I don't think it is something you really want to happen when you think about it.

Religion doesn't make man do evil things, man will do them no matter what, but religion has been a moral compass to drift back too time and time again. I'm not talking political religion, or corruption of religions used as a tool for personal gains, but the fundamental foundation of religion. I say this while not be religious...

Every time we look at horrendous religious events they pale in comparison to other non-religious morals/acts/events of their time, and so we need to really look at what is the true evil of man actually is even when at times religion assumes that role too, but as I said...you are not looking at what man would be like without it...Very scary to me...


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posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Do you have a lot of research in Ufology? Well then good. It's up to you to decide for yourself what to do with it.

Maybe contribute it to a new person in the field?

I too have over the years put in formal and informal research into this and have reached some conclusions on peripheral issues that I have articulated here. But on the essence of it, I have ideas presently that will be kept private.

I'm not rigid on most of this subject, and open to changing my views but every person for themselves.

I just wish you well in whatever endeavor you partake.




posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Of course.


“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

― Voltaire


Is the issue, whether religion is involved or not involved.

The main problem with religion, is that it decouples people so completely from 'physical reality'
thus making the abuses more easily accomplished.

Though of course, if you economically and militarily repress people, like say China, North Korea
and Russia have done, then it doesn't matter if it's more difficult to hornswoggle people, if you
have the raw power.

I certainly concur that 'religion' was the initial prompt for me to stretch my mind as I have
over all these years, to either prove religion or to disprove religion.

And that has made my mind soar to quite some heights.

Kev



posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear




Is the issue, whether religion is involved or not involved.

If one proposes angels or demons as an explanation, religion is involved. These are religious concepts.

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posted on Dec, 20 2020 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Thank you my friend.

I wish you the very best as well.

Unfortunately for me, most of my UFO research links 'UFOs' to the human nervous system
via the mechanism known as 'kundlaini'.

and if you do 'kundalini' wrong, you go screaming insane and beg for death.

I have nobody I can share the research with.

I won't have innocent lives on my hands.




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