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Russia: Trump burned the US on his way out

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posted on Dec, 18 2020 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: jrod

Why you so afraid to take a closer look at the USA election system?



posted on Dec, 18 2020 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I have over and over again.

Is it perfect? No.

It can absolutely be improved. However it is not so deeply flawed that it would enable the sort of widespread fraud that Trump is claiming.

Remember each state has certified the vote. States like Georgia, with leadership that was very pro-Trump still certified the results despite 'their guy' losing. Kemp would not have done this had he thought there was fraud involved that resulted in Biden winning.

The elections are so much better, more accurate and secure than say 20 years ago with punch cards, hanging Chad's and butterfly ballots where one could easily vote for the wrong candidate.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: jrod
Russia has acknowledged Joe Biden as president elect, however Russia has claimed Trump burned the US on his way out, and they seem to be happy about it. (But unhappy Biden will become POTUS)

This article also acknowledged the Kremlin was ready to claim election fraud in 2016 if Trump lost, so with Trump losing in 2020, they were more than eager to push the fraud narrative, especially with Trump claiming the same thing.


“Mission accomplished,” rejoiced Karen Shakhnazarov, CEO of Mosfilm Studio and an ever-present pundit on Russian state TV news talk shows. Appearing on state TV program The Evening with Vladimir Soloviev, Shakhnazarov opined that Trump’s mission was to destroy the political system of the United States, and he successfully did exactly that.


Russia's version of 60 minutes also added this:


Political expert Alexei Martynov, director of the International Institute of the Newly Established States, surmised during the broadcast of 60 Minutes: “They burned the reputation of U.S. institutions during these elections.” Political commentator Sergey Strokan concurred: “He [Trump] is discrediting the American electoral system.” Evgeny Popov, the host of 60 Minutes, grinned like a Cheshire cat: “Let’s be glad about that.” Deputy of the Russian Duma Alexei Zhuravlyov agreed: “I certainly am.” He cheerfully concluded: “The worse for them, the better for us.” During the same broadcast, Popov pointed at the map of states supporting Trump’s desperate plight of overturning election results: “Just look at this map, this is a real beauty. Exactly half of the country, divided. America is divided!”

Russian Media Mourn as Putin Acknowledges Biden’s Win—But Say Trump ‘Burned’ U.S. on His Way Out

While Russia did express they were upset that Biden won because now it is highly unlikely now that relations between the US and Russia will improve they did take some shots at Trump:


Russian International Affairs Council expert Alexey Naumov described Russian President Vladimir Putin as “the owner of Donald Trump” and “the main Republican.” Mocking the GOP, host Evgeny Popov, added: “Republicans, it’s time to give up. Your owner recognized the outcome.” Naumov added: “Your leader [Putin] already recognized Biden’s victory—what are you, dog, waiting for?”


Why are you being a mouthpiece for russian propaganda? Is it because it fits nicely in a wet dream of yours about trump? It’s propaganda made to manipulate you. Some folks love being on their knees...



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: neutronflux

I have over and over again.

Is it perfect? No.

It can absolutely be improved. However it is not so deeply flawed that it would enable the sort of widespread fraud that Trump is claiming.

Remember each state has certified the vote. States like Georgia, with leadership that was very pro-Trump still certified the results despite 'their guy' losing. Kemp would not have done this had he thought there was fraud involved that resulted in Biden winning.

The elections are so much better, more accurate and secure than say 20 years ago with punch cards, hanging Chad's and butterfly ballots where one could easily vote for the wrong candidate.
This is you parroting more propaganda this time from CNN. You know the post office says don’t mail cash, it’s not secure. The post office was never intended to be used to process more than a few absentee ballots.
edit on 19-12-2020 by Rob808 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: jrod

So just hold that report up to a mirror and you have the truth. Trump benefited America, they resented his doing so. They are happy Usurper Joe is getting in. If Trump lost they'd have continued supporting Hillary while pretending not to.



posted on Dec, 19 2020 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Can you maybe add something to the discussion? I know it's the mud pit, but come on.

You did not even read the article, and I doubt you even read the entire post. It is like you wanted to be the first to take a cheap shot.

Despite being in the mud-pit, this story has some seriousness to it. What Trump is doing is weakening the US and our advisories know this.

For the next month, our country will be extremely vulnerable. We essentially have no President, as Trump has ceased his doing anything meaningful and has instead used his time to push the claims of election fraud.

It is also alarming a Russian International Affairs council member claims Putin owns Trump. For those of who have been paying attention, Russian oligarchs bailed Trump out financially before he became President. It begs the question if he, at the direction of the people who 'own' him is doing this to pay off his debts to Russian interests.


Oh like the Legislative branch? I only saw lots of friends given 13 trillion dollars, a pay raise four times, none of which required any deliberation, and investigation investigation, investigation into the sex crimes, rapes and such which overwhelmingly seem to be crimes carried out by young men who become Republican party nominees or appointments later in life. Oh and don't forget the impeachment and crybaby corner caused anytime the President farted. He has to go! Peeyew!



posted on Dec, 21 2020 @ 02:30 AM
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originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: jrod

Well Trump did expose the shady Dems for what most sane people knew for quite some time....that they are con artists and frauds.
Nobody gives a rat’s ass what the Russians think.


And it's this kind of single minded, narrow thinking arrogance which puts the wider populace at risk.



posted on Dec, 21 2020 @ 05:46 AM
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Not for nothing Jrod , the Daily Beast reads like Brightbart can't be trusted, though I do believe he is giving the middle finger to America as a whole and the grift is the only game he's got right now.



posted on Dec, 21 2020 @ 05:58 AM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: neutronflux

I have over and over again.

Is it perfect? No.

It can absolutely be improved. However it is not so deeply flawed that it would enable the sort of widespread fraud that Trump is claiming.

Remember each state has certified the vote. States like Georgia, with leadership that was very pro-Trump still certified the results despite 'their guy' losing. Kemp would not have done this had he thought there was fraud involved that resulted in Biden winning.

The elections are so much better, more accurate and secure than say 20 years ago with punch cards, hanging Chad's and butterfly ballots where one could easily vote for the wrong candidate.


Unfortunately democrats pushed for voting methods that are known to be more susceptible to voter fraud. Democrats actively push to move elections from being more secure to less secure. With pushing voting methods shunned or avoided by other countries because they are open to fraud.

So you assertions the 2020 election is more secure is false by the very nature of voting methods pushed by democrats.

As accuracy? Please list what independent backup method was used to verify the dominion voting machines bought by cities controlled by political machines did indeed count legal ballots accurately. And not counted legal ballots.




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