Its apparently official....US Cities are dying!

a reply to: Edumakated

True, but that's the result of urban sprawl. It's unfortunate when companies don't understand the traffic flow or corporate culture of an area before they move in and make it even more miserable for everyone.

a reply to: Edumakated

It depends on the city. Here in Chicago, it can take more than 1 hour to go 10 miles from downtown Chicago Loop to western suburbs on i-290 where a lot of companies had corporate offices. Upwards of two hours on a really crappy day.

I did that type of commute for more years that I want to remember.
It's funny up here people complain about traffic and there is no traffic up here at all.
Whenever we go to Chicago it's like traffic culture shock all over again. The drivers in
Illinois are super aggressive too.

a reply to: Guyfriday


I thought this pretty much summed up socialism and how free stuff works .

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Edumakated

It depends on the city. Here in Chicago, it can take more than 1 hour to go 10 miles from downtown Chicago Loop to western suburbs on i-290 where a lot of companies had corporate offices. Upwards of two hours on a really crappy day.

I did that type of commute for more years that I want to remember.
It's funny up here people complain about traffic and there is no traffic up here at all.
Whenever we go to Chicago it's like traffic culture shock all over again. The drivers in
Illinois are super aggressive too.

I've driven in most major cities... Chicago drivers are by far the most aggressive I've encountered. The blatant disregard for rules of the road and general aggressiveness is just on another level. The stuff I see Chicago drivers do on a daily basis is just something you have to see and experience.

The things I see Chicago drivers practically daily on my morning commute;

1) Intentionally going into a left turn only lane. Instead of turning left, using it as an opportunity to basically cut in front of a line of cars going straight.

2) Red light drag racing. Chicago drivers love to pull into the right turning lane at a stop light if there are maybe three or four cars in a line. Instead of turning right, they drag race you when the light turns green to try to cut back over before the right lane runs out due to parked cars ahead. Like in the example above, they do this to avoid saving maybe 2 seconds being car #4 in line instead of #1.

3) Driving on shoulder of the road. Highway backed up? Screw it, just drive on the shoulder at 75mph for five miles.

4) Speed limits? Stop signs? Turn signals? Mere suggestions in Chicago.

a reply to: Identified

Commuting out is easier than in. So if someone lives inside the city and goes outside to work that is easier than going into the city from rural.

Spreading out is always easier than pushing together. Their is no way around this, it is just a fact.

So the plan was said to get everyone into the cities. They have failed big time.

Even More Tech Firms Are Leaving Silicon Valley for Texas

Hewlett Packard Enterprise is pulling up its stakes in Silicon Valley and heading for Texas. It’s not the first big tech firm to make the move, and it won’t be the last.

But it’s not just the uber-wealthy who are moving to Texas. According to New York-based fintech company SmartAsset, Texas ranked number two among states where upper-middle class families are moving. Between 2017 and 2018, Texas saw a net gain of 6,706 upper-middle class people, second only to Florida, which saw a whopping 18,876 people, SmartAsset reported in October. The firm defines upper-middle class as those with incomes between $100,000 and $200,000.

California, meanwhile, has seen a net outflow of people. In 2019, more than 653,000 Californians left the state while only 480,000 people became residents—resulting in a deficit of 173,000. Texas was the number one destination for those fleeing the state.

There’s a saying in Texas that you may have heard before: “I wasn’t born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could.”

As I learned the hard-way in big corporate America; there are no green pastures anymore. You must create your own or submit to the overlords.

Many folks are pondering when things will return to normal. The short response is: never. Nothing will ever return to the “broken” sense of normalcy that prevailed prior to the crisis because the planscamdemic marks a fundamental inflection point in our global trajectory. Some analysts call it a major bifurcation, toward a new freedom of spiritual gathering & consciousness while others refer to a deep crisis of “biblical” proportions, but the essence remains the same: the world as we knew it prior to 2020 is no more, dissolved in the context of the corona snake oil. Radical changes of such consequence are coming that some pundits have referred to a “before coronavirus” (BC) and “after coronavirus” (AC) era.

Certainly appears we may have even more dire situations to contend with past 2020 (like food & water, right to live) between the Technocrats and deep state power grabs. By the time the masses awaken and quit their petty protesting/riots nonsense and whatever their next issue may be it will be too late for many to do anything. It's like the globalists took 10 years worth of psyops & distractions, and conspiracies, threw it all into a centrifuge and released the evil potion in 2020.

Unfortunately, many Americans are absolutely clueless on self-preservation and family survival when SHTF. From about 3 years ago I no longer mock some of those 2012 Doomsday preppers and survivalist groups. Not long ago I lived semi off-grid in the southwest desert but the creature comforts & services drew me back into society. 20/20 hindsight is a bitch.🤬

Here's to hoping or making on your own for a better new Age to soon come.

originally posted by: Edumakated
Other than outside Atlanta, I am eyeing North Georgia Mountains, Western TN, and Western, NC for retirement. I want to be near small towns but up in the mountains and some what temperate climate.

There are some beautiful places up in the North Georgia mountains, I love most of the areas up there. I wanted to be up there by now, to be honest. Now I'm a little bit stuck for a few months to a couple of years likely.

originally posted by: Edumakated
It is definitely going to be a large social experiment.

I think it will take a long time for cities to recover. However, some people think the rural and smaller cities will be a flash in the pan as people used to living in large cities will find them boring.

However, I don't think people will come back to cities as quickly as some people because the lock downs will continue. It will be Covid 20 next year.... Covid 21 the year after. People aren't going to want to be around the unpredictability of city living anymore.

I agree, now that Governors have had a taste of dictatorship like powers they won't give it up easily.

Every flu season they will now use their power to lock people in their homes, just because they can.

Power corrupts, and the absolute power we have allowed Governors to have has corrupted absolutely and for decades to come.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

A lot of people are moving to those states because of taxes.

It all sounds like a long terrm tactical play to change voting demographics.
The dem mayors allow the blm riots, everyone allows the scamdemic and people flee to rural areas, changing votes across the rural areas.
Not good.

a reply to: The2Billies

Isn't that true.
From: King5

Gov. Jay Inslee is proposing a bill that would create a "comprehensive climate program" to reduce emissions by 2030.

The program, according to Inslee's office, would meet statewide greenhouse gas limits, improve climate resilience and reduce climate change impacts on communities and ecosystems.

"With the last legislative session, we have done some really good work in our state, but it is clear that we need to move forward with these steps that we're going to meet our legislatively adopted requirements and our moral obligation to ourselves and our grandchildren," Inslee said at a press conference on Tuesday.

The bill, called the Climate Commitment Act, would establish principles and standards for a climate program that uses the best data and provides necessary authority, and more. It would cap greenhouse gas emissions for the state's largest-emitting industries and authorize the Department of Ecology to oversee a program that "ensures industries comply through the sale, tracking, and accounting of greenhouse gas credits (or allowances).

Proceeds from the sale of allowances would be placed in a climate investment account and used for investments in clean transportation, natural climate resilience solutions, clean energy transitions and assistance, and emissions reduction projects.

I like how the money collected doesn't get explained how it will be used, just that it is going to go into an account and then vaguely used? This is the same Governor that pushed a gas tax that nobody wanted, and after it failed to pass said that he was going to do it anyways because he knows best. He was already touting the "New Green Deal" after Biden supposedly won the state (I say supposedly since there are serious questions and a law suit about the election in Washington State)

a reply to: Edumakated

Wow, Chicago drivers sound like Los Angeles drivers. Although LA drivers are bad in other ways.

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: Edumakated

Wow, Chicago drivers sound like Los Angeles drivers. Although LA drivers are bad in other ways.

I haven't driven in LA but have in Seattle, Atlanta, Orlando, etc and Chicago is the worst.
People are so angry and always, always in a rush even though traffic is crawling.
There is just this tension there, and it puts you in a foul mood when driving.

a reply to: TonyS

Oh great. Cant we just ship all these people to Mexico or Canada or Texas or something. Seems like more useless people doing useless things.

Who needs that. Seems redundant to move to another place, just because you turned the place you came from into a #hole.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: TonyS

Pretty sure those leaving won't find any open inviting arms in conservative areas.....it will be a rude awakening for them, but needed.

Truer words were never spoken.........at least in my area. People intentionally key or break the windows of automobiles with out of state plates. When observed entering the local restaurants, they are "slow" served or just ignored. No one wants these people in our area.

I’m wondering if rental prices will finally go down to affordable rates after people leave the cities. I want so desperately to live in the state I have lived in all my life Massachusetts but after a break up I have found myself homeless and there are NO affordable places for me or if they are they all have strange requirements like you must make 3 times the rent. Which I don’t get. I work from home and have a small guaranteed income and have offered to pay 3 mos ahead. I don’t know how I am expected to get another part time job when I don’t live in the area yet??
Sorry I am just very frustrated the rent prices here are ridiculous and unreasonable studios in regular small towns going for $1500 a month sometimes or basement apartments under the landlords house being rented for $1400 but separate utilities and no access to the yard, people are arrogant and need to be knocked back to reality. Min wage went up slightly since 2000 but rent prices have nearly doubled meaning people who grew up here are being pushed out. I feel like I am being forced to move to New Hampshire

a reply to: PistisSophia

The funk!

Ya! people are kind of retarded. Wearever people go, retarted stuff ensues, the more people the more retarted things get it seems. Thats way to much to pay per month for anything. Most especially the #holes they call studio apartments. Seen some crap houses in Seattle selling for over 500K that one guy can build in 5 months for maybe 10K to 15K in building material, maybe, but probably way less.

And all just because they were some 20 odd miles not far from the paradise that is Seattle. And because everybody charges up the wazzo for there crap.

Which offcourse Seattle is a #hole, like most cities. I have been there, more then once, and its pretty #ty place. Would not want to live there, thats for sure.

Now how stupid is that. You all are like rats. The only thing people in groups do is just drive up prices on meaningless things. Everybody is selling there crap for way more then its worth in cities, and all of it is made in china anyways by either machines and automation or cheap labor from Taiwan. And renting is just pointless. And that whole landlord business. Is more stupid stuff. All because people are to lazy to take a day or two to fix there own issues.

For the average price on what you pay per month on these rents and everything, you could literally pay for building a new one in a year or two...If you do it yourself or have help that is. Sooo! Well dealing with people and the government is like watching a South Park episode. Its all just stupid stuff.

I think you people got to used to doing stupid stuff, its like the game of telephone only applied to life. The first dump ass does it, so the next dumb ass follows, and before you know it, there are billions of dumb asses doing it.

Never listen to the TV brah! There is a reason why they call it the ideot box. Its just there to make you stupid. There are limits to growth, but there are not limits to stupidity. If your paying that much for rent? In those #holes. Well then move on, your getting scammed.

Ain't no state or city or town or anything in this country or any other that is worth the hassle. In fact if your doing it any other way, then just move on.

The whole of human society is that Lao Tsu quote, only taken ass backwards.. Teach a man to fish indeed.

How could this ever have happened!? /s

a reply to: sine.nomine

Oh ya! Its plain ol retarded. Check this house out. And this was from years ago, so who knows what prices are for dumps in those cities, even more modern houses are just McHouses, absolutley nothing special about any of it. This one, going for 649K in San Francisco. Cali and New York and all other cities, pretty much were people move things just go up the wazzo simply because.

Well its what happens when large groups of people get together, that and politics, and taxes. Same ol #.

The house in the vid? Its quite literally a shed. You can go to home depot, order there biggest shed for around maybe 5k that would be bigger then that dump, then just hire somebody, or do it yourself, to install some plumbing and hook up all the electrical for who knows another maybe 5K....And at the end you still would have saved yourself around 648K...

Developing and contractors, the whole way the system is set up, its kinds of one of the biggest scams out there. So not like there is anything new. So its pretty much what you can expect once people start moving to new areas and states. Just more price hikes, simply because. Its what people do.