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Was The Trump Era a PSYOP for the Planned the Destruction of the Right?
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a reply to: Edumakated
There were quite a few who did step out of the box because they did see it. So many that it threw the results in doubt like it has.
There were quite a few who did step out of the box because they did see it. So many that it threw the results in doubt like it has.
originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: incoserv
I don't necessarily agree, but gave you a star and flag for thinking out of the box.
Trump isn't part of the elite. Yes, he is rich, but it takes more than money to be part of the elite class.
Trump is to the Republicans what Bernie or Tulsi is to Democrats.
Trump is not liked by establishment Republicans. Remember, Republicans despise him too. The only Republicans that were for Trump were the little guys. The blue collar workers. Those of us who care about America first.
The establishment Republicans are globalist just like Democrats. If you recall, every Republican running 2016 hemmed and hawed about illegal immigration being an issue until Trump said screw that and started pushing the wall. This is when his popularity sky rocketed because the regular voters know it is an issue.
Trump was a black swan that the Republican establishment nor the Democrats expected. None of their opposition research or games were setup to deal with Trump. The Republican establishment was backing Jeb Bush.
It is really sad as Trump was about the closest thing to a true third party President we will ever get. What is crazy, is that if the progressive base wasn't so stupid, they'd see Trump was good for them too. Trump was pulling us out of wars. He was actually doing things to try to help the black community. He supported LBTQ rights (within reason).
Trump could cure cancer and the left would complain about him putting Oncologist out of work but that is another topic...
As I said a couple of times, I hope that my "theory" is wrong, wrong, wrong.
What you say is the hope that I (any so many others) have held on to all along. The one thing that could keep me holding that hope is that if he is not sworn in on January 20, he just torpedoes the whole damn thing before he leaves office. I am a staunch supporter of #DeclassifyEverything. Stop hiding the truth from the voters. We cannot make informed decisions if we are not informed.
If he really is "one of us" on any level, he needs to denude the lie as a last resort.
Good thread!
I’ve started making a similar thread several times but then say, “I’m on ATS....this is pointless.”, and stop.
I’m more inclined to think that Trump was an unknowing plant to divide the US, at the hand’s of a foreign enemy. If you look where we’re at right now and work your way backwards, it makes a bit more sense. To me, anyway.
My theory goes- several years before Trump announced he was going to run, someone planted the idea in his head that he’d make for a great president. Trump, with the ego he has, ate it right up. Whoever put the idea in his head put him in contact with several other people that would help him get where he needed to go, all the while telling him exactly what to say, what issues to hammer on and what to stay away from.
I do not, for a single second, believe Trump actually spends a lot of time researching. He does not come off as a well-read individual. He doesn’t read as if he’s well-read nor does he speak like he is. I assume that whatever information he repeats is verbally fed to him and he takes it and flies with it. So if he’s told “Donald, you’re going to be GREAT! Here’s a few people I think you need to keep close, they’ll guide you in the right direction.”, so with his ego freshly stroked, he surrounds himself with people who are giving him just enough advice to keep his base happy while simultaneously pissing off the other half the country.
I don’t think it takes a genius to know that the DNC/left/progs were going to sh*t metric bricks with anything coming out of his mouth, that covers a huge part of the plan right there.
Then they have him continuously speak against the entire party. It was already a rocky relationship, but it’s blown out in the open now to the point civilians have had their families torn apart over politics. You can’t read a single comment section under a single news story without seeing it devalue into “libtard!”, or “Repugnantcan!”. Just look at how it works here now that ATS has become a safe haven for Trump supporters. I can’t believe how many times I’ve been called a leftist, socialist, communist, pedophile-supporter just because I don’t like Trump (I’m a libertarian). Sure, the left has lost it’s collective sh*t over Trump, but the Trump supporters have made enemies out of anyone who doesn’t like Trump. That’s some serious adoration.
So he spends 4 years hiring and firing from the same swamp he promised to drain, because he’s too daft to actually research the people he hires on his own, while his handlers just keep feeding him bad info. But because it’s the same people that know how to stroke his ego, he doesn’t realize they’re f*cking him over or blows it off because the ego stroke is too good.
I do think Trump did a good job with the economic side of things. Foreign relations...who knows. Peace in the Middle East lasts as long as they can keep their fingers off of bombs. I think the idea that Trump negotiated peace there is short sighted because it’ll only last until one side over there decides they’re sick of doing nothing. There’s no way that’s going to stay peaceful forever, but it’s cited over and over as a win. I don’t think any president should have gotten credit for peace-making in the Middle East. It’s a farce.
Then once the George Floyd bit occurred, that was the perfect time to tell him, “Don’t back down from this. Do not give them an inch. Don’t even invite them to the table to pacify them for a second.”, and the rest of work was done. If there was hope of this country getting along before that, it was all over with after that.
The left is so palpable, they didn’t need anything on their side to play along in this.
Tl;dr- A foreign enemy just needed a Tasmanian Devil to tear it’s way through the US. Trump made the perfect fit.
I’ve started making a similar thread several times but then say, “I’m on ATS....this is pointless.”, and stop.
I’m more inclined to think that Trump was an unknowing plant to divide the US, at the hand’s of a foreign enemy. If you look where we’re at right now and work your way backwards, it makes a bit more sense. To me, anyway.
My theory goes- several years before Trump announced he was going to run, someone planted the idea in his head that he’d make for a great president. Trump, with the ego he has, ate it right up. Whoever put the idea in his head put him in contact with several other people that would help him get where he needed to go, all the while telling him exactly what to say, what issues to hammer on and what to stay away from.
I do not, for a single second, believe Trump actually spends a lot of time researching. He does not come off as a well-read individual. He doesn’t read as if he’s well-read nor does he speak like he is. I assume that whatever information he repeats is verbally fed to him and he takes it and flies with it. So if he’s told “Donald, you’re going to be GREAT! Here’s a few people I think you need to keep close, they’ll guide you in the right direction.”, so with his ego freshly stroked, he surrounds himself with people who are giving him just enough advice to keep his base happy while simultaneously pissing off the other half the country.
I don’t think it takes a genius to know that the DNC/left/progs were going to sh*t metric bricks with anything coming out of his mouth, that covers a huge part of the plan right there.
Then they have him continuously speak against the entire party. It was already a rocky relationship, but it’s blown out in the open now to the point civilians have had their families torn apart over politics. You can’t read a single comment section under a single news story without seeing it devalue into “libtard!”, or “Repugnantcan!”. Just look at how it works here now that ATS has become a safe haven for Trump supporters. I can’t believe how many times I’ve been called a leftist, socialist, communist, pedophile-supporter just because I don’t like Trump (I’m a libertarian). Sure, the left has lost it’s collective sh*t over Trump, but the Trump supporters have made enemies out of anyone who doesn’t like Trump. That’s some serious adoration.
So he spends 4 years hiring and firing from the same swamp he promised to drain, because he’s too daft to actually research the people he hires on his own, while his handlers just keep feeding him bad info. But because it’s the same people that know how to stroke his ego, he doesn’t realize they’re f*cking him over or blows it off because the ego stroke is too good.
I do think Trump did a good job with the economic side of things. Foreign relations...who knows. Peace in the Middle East lasts as long as they can keep their fingers off of bombs. I think the idea that Trump negotiated peace there is short sighted because it’ll only last until one side over there decides they’re sick of doing nothing. There’s no way that’s going to stay peaceful forever, but it’s cited over and over as a win. I don’t think any president should have gotten credit for peace-making in the Middle East. It’s a farce.
Then once the George Floyd bit occurred, that was the perfect time to tell him, “Don’t back down from this. Do not give them an inch. Don’t even invite them to the table to pacify them for a second.”, and the rest of work was done. If there was hope of this country getting along before that, it was all over with after that.
The left is so palpable, they didn’t need anything on their side to play along in this.
Tl;dr- A foreign enemy just needed a Tasmanian Devil to tear it’s way through the US. Trump made the perfect fit.
a reply to: Drucifer
The problem with your theory is that it ignores the strong currents of discontent that were obviously extremely strong that had been brewing and were being ignored and treated with contempt by the entire establishment. A lot of this was going to come to a head sooner or later because they sure as heck weren't about making any kind of peace with it.
The problem with your theory is that it ignores the strong currents of discontent that were obviously extremely strong that had been brewing and were being ignored and treated with contempt by the entire establishment. A lot of this was going to come to a head sooner or later because they sure as heck weren't about making any kind of peace with it.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Drucifer
The problem with your theory is that it ignores the strong currents of discontent that were obviously extremely strong that had been brewing and were being ignored and treated with contempt by the entire establishment. A lot of this was going to come to a head sooner or later because they sure as heck weren't about making any kind of peace with it.
I don’t think it ignores it because I think it was hatched specifically because of that discontent. Had we had another Bush or Obama, classic president type, we wouldn’t be where we are now. I think Trump was given all the right buttons to push or ignore to push everything to a head and blam, here we are.
a reply to: Drucifer
No, I am saying that this was going to happen with or without Trump. Trump just brought it out sooner. If you're a leftist trying to boil the frog slowly, I'm not entirely sure this is what you want -- around half or more of the country still angrily opposed to your agenda.
No, I am saying that this was going to happen with or without Trump. Trump just brought it out sooner. If you're a leftist trying to boil the frog slowly, I'm not entirely sure this is what you want -- around half or more of the country still angrily opposed to your agenda.
originally posted by: incoserv
originally posted by: americanbuffalo1
The charade shall continue. Unabated. Realize it is all an illusion.
I don't think so. I think that the charade is about over.
A charade is defined as "an absurd pretense intended to create a pleasant or respectable appearance." I don't think that we'll be seeing much pretense from here on out.
Here's to hoping your right. As far as finally the absolute corruption is finally acknowledged and dealt with.
It just seems to me The charade. And I mean the charade that all is good with our institutions. Its been this way for a long long time only President Trump' s popularity briefly shed light on the darkroom which has been our political reality for sometime.
We'll see. I predict just more bread and circuses for us plebes.
edit on 12/14/2020 by americanbuffalo1 because: misspelled something something
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Drucifer
No, I am saying that this was going to happen with or without Trump. Trump just brought it out sooner. If you're a leftist trying to boil the frog slowly, I'm not entirely sure this is what you want -- around half or more of the country still angrily opposed to your agenda.
I don’t disagree that it was going to happen sooner or later, I just think the sooner part was part of the plan. Not sure if you’re referring to me being a leftist or not, I don’t know how many times I have to say it or how many times I need to poke fun at the left, but I’m a libertarian.
a reply to: incoserv
Okay....but do you have an explanation for all of the anomalies I listed? They're some of the strongest anomalies that point to him being part of The Undrained Swamp.
I'M NOT A LEFTIST/BIDENTARD BY THE WAY. Feel like I always have to have a CAPS disclaimer on my posts on ATS, it's become Lord and Savior Trump's safe space.
Okay....but do you have an explanation for all of the anomalies I listed? They're some of the strongest anomalies that point to him being part of The Undrained Swamp.
I'M NOT A LEFTIST/BIDENTARD BY THE WAY. Feel like I always have to have a CAPS disclaimer on my posts on ATS, it's become Lord and Savior Trump's safe space.
edit on 14-12-2020 by DarkestConspiracyMoon because: (no reason given)
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DarkestConspiracyMoon because: (no reason given)
Trump got 10 MILLION more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. 10 MILLION. After 4 straight years of non-stop negative press, phony investigations, a
sham impeachment, etc etc.
I do not for one second believe the total Biden vote count was legitimate.
If anything, this is strengthening the Republican base.
I do not for one second believe the total Biden vote count was legitimate.
If anything, this is strengthening the Republican base.
a reply to: Drucifer
I really dont believe its pointless here. I have seen a great many things be borne here, and enter the collective consciousness at large. Not always quite how one would think.. and it rarely happens quickly.. but nonetheless.
Ive been talking about this conflict for many years now. I tried to start with more basic concepts of questioning established systems, and ideally leading to the formation of other novel, better systems.
Trump really does play a major role in the manipulation regardless of his intent though. I dont believe he is part of that particular monster though (the so-called "swamp"), nor do I believe he is necessarily driven by altruistic motives.
Its a theme in the media-driven Narrative that is dose & application dependent. Meaning, its something that can be a poison or a cure depending on how its administered.
The split on the so-called "right" is also mirrored on the left. The "right" is an amalgamation of anyone who doesnt buy into the corporate-political religion, and the "left" is comprised of varying levels of fervency, zealotry, and awareness of said religion. What many perceive as the traditional "right" might be best encompassed under the umbrella of "republican," though the same discernment cant be applied as effectively to the "left."
I think this split is somewhat predictable when considering the path that most power structures take, if not all power structures throughout history. Basically, when the corruption becomes blatant, a split occurs. This nigh inevitable, repeating process was then used to make sure that what spun off didnt coalesce into something that would actually be a threat to the corporate-political religion.
I still believe the so-called "right" underestimates what they are up against. Many still seem to hold on to the notion that they are just up against dumb people. Thats a mistake. The technocracy might be the most formidable foe the world has ever faced.
I dont believe its over by any means, though if we lose the fight.. It will likely be generations before another attempt can be made due to the modern technological context.
The thing is.. The tools the corporate-political apparatus uses can all be hijacked and exploited in the same way that they do to establish their domination.
To prevent that notion from gaining social & cultural momentum, a Narrative is constructed around either rejecting or accepting everything based on the technocrats interpretation of how these tools can be used.
In that, one side has a tendency to reject the baby with the bathwater, preferring to go back to "the way it was." We can see this sort of behavior quite clearly when it comes to manufacturing; many want to see its return to the US, but most who have that wish want to see it take exactly the same shape it had before it was all out-sourced. This is a highly unrealistic expectation.
The other side is hardly aware of the modern technological context at all, despite being fully immersed in it. Their concern is based more on spreading the "tenets" of the religion, converting non-believers, and subjugating all who would disagree. Notable is that when compared with historic precedence, the only "tenet" is actually behavioral and mental adherence to what The Monolith says is "true" on any given day. This can change dramatically and rapidly, all while being defended as "science," "facts," etc.
The third factor, frequently overlooked, is steadfast "both sides-ism." Where, under the pretense of fairness driven by a rejection of the obvious Narrative, individuals will end up accepting all the worst things about "both sides" in an effort to maintain a perception of balance.
TLR; The entire "fight" centers around a technocratic monolith using technology, manipulation, & exploitation to subjugate the global population. The so-called "right" are rather ineffectual at fighting this and adherents to the religion on the "left" dont even know that fight exists. Those who attempt to "both sides" it, just end up reinforcing the manufactured Narrative on both sides. Very, very few are examining it all in a way that will actually blaze a different trail, and Trump has served as an exceptional manipulation focal point. A focal point that makes side A, side B, and "both-sides-ers" all march to exactly the same tune, in the same direction, with the same final destination. Id say the main focus now is in getting the "right" to start responding physically & violently. This was attempted earlier this year, I believe, but the water wasnt hot enough (so to speak).
I really dont believe its pointless here. I have seen a great many things be borne here, and enter the collective consciousness at large. Not always quite how one would think.. and it rarely happens quickly.. but nonetheless.
Ive been talking about this conflict for many years now. I tried to start with more basic concepts of questioning established systems, and ideally leading to the formation of other novel, better systems.
Trump really does play a major role in the manipulation regardless of his intent though. I dont believe he is part of that particular monster though (the so-called "swamp"), nor do I believe he is necessarily driven by altruistic motives.
Its a theme in the media-driven Narrative that is dose & application dependent. Meaning, its something that can be a poison or a cure depending on how its administered.
The split on the so-called "right" is also mirrored on the left. The "right" is an amalgamation of anyone who doesnt buy into the corporate-political religion, and the "left" is comprised of varying levels of fervency, zealotry, and awareness of said religion. What many perceive as the traditional "right" might be best encompassed under the umbrella of "republican," though the same discernment cant be applied as effectively to the "left."
I think this split is somewhat predictable when considering the path that most power structures take, if not all power structures throughout history. Basically, when the corruption becomes blatant, a split occurs. This nigh inevitable, repeating process was then used to make sure that what spun off didnt coalesce into something that would actually be a threat to the corporate-political religion.
I still believe the so-called "right" underestimates what they are up against. Many still seem to hold on to the notion that they are just up against dumb people. Thats a mistake. The technocracy might be the most formidable foe the world has ever faced.
I dont believe its over by any means, though if we lose the fight.. It will likely be generations before another attempt can be made due to the modern technological context.
The thing is.. The tools the corporate-political apparatus uses can all be hijacked and exploited in the same way that they do to establish their domination.
To prevent that notion from gaining social & cultural momentum, a Narrative is constructed around either rejecting or accepting everything based on the technocrats interpretation of how these tools can be used.
In that, one side has a tendency to reject the baby with the bathwater, preferring to go back to "the way it was." We can see this sort of behavior quite clearly when it comes to manufacturing; many want to see its return to the US, but most who have that wish want to see it take exactly the same shape it had before it was all out-sourced. This is a highly unrealistic expectation.
The other side is hardly aware of the modern technological context at all, despite being fully immersed in it. Their concern is based more on spreading the "tenets" of the religion, converting non-believers, and subjugating all who would disagree. Notable is that when compared with historic precedence, the only "tenet" is actually behavioral and mental adherence to what The Monolith says is "true" on any given day. This can change dramatically and rapidly, all while being defended as "science," "facts," etc.
The third factor, frequently overlooked, is steadfast "both sides-ism." Where, under the pretense of fairness driven by a rejection of the obvious Narrative, individuals will end up accepting all the worst things about "both sides" in an effort to maintain a perception of balance.
TLR; The entire "fight" centers around a technocratic monolith using technology, manipulation, & exploitation to subjugate the global population. The so-called "right" are rather ineffectual at fighting this and adherents to the religion on the "left" dont even know that fight exists. Those who attempt to "both sides" it, just end up reinforcing the manufactured Narrative on both sides. Very, very few are examining it all in a way that will actually blaze a different trail, and Trump has served as an exceptional manipulation focal point. A focal point that makes side A, side B, and "both-sides-ers" all march to exactly the same tune, in the same direction, with the same final destination. Id say the main focus now is in getting the "right" to start responding physically & violently. This was attempted earlier this year, I believe, but the water wasnt hot enough (so to speak).
The Trump Administration was needed to realign global alliances, diminish US standing across the globe, create constant division and distraction on
the domestic front thus empowering many forms of domestic terrorism.
Bungled response to COVID was just a bonus.
TPTB decide to release a bit of chaos every now and again. That explains Trump.
Bungled response to COVID was just a bonus.
TPTB decide to release a bit of chaos every now and again. That explains Trump.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
The Trump Administration was needed to realign global alliances, diminish US standing across the globe, create constant division and distraction on the domestic front thus empowering many forms of domestic terrorism.
Bungled response to COVID was just a bonus.
TPTB decide to release a bit of chaos every now and again. That explains Trump.
I like that explanation.
I do think Trump was kind of an accident, but “they” then allowed to happen what happened.
I’ve stated before I believe there is a global effort by TPTB to equalize the planet. I never forget this is a conspiracy site.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Gryphon66
The Trump Administration was needed to realign global alliances, diminish US standing across the globe, create constant division and distraction on the domestic front thus empowering many forms of domestic terrorism.
Bungled response to COVID was just a bonus.
TPTB decide to release a bit of chaos every now and again. That explains Trump.
I like that explanation.
I do think Trump was kind of an accident, but “they” then allowed to happen what happened.
I’ve stated before I believe there is a global effort by TPTB to equalize the planet. I never forget this is a conspiracy site.
Yes, there is a global effort by TPTB,it is called the NEW WORLD ORDER!
We just might be seeing the birthing of this abomination right before our
eyes.
originally posted by: mamabeth
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Gryphon66
The Trump Administration was needed to realign global alliances, diminish US standing across the globe, create constant division and distraction on the domestic front thus empowering many forms of domestic terrorism.
Bungled response to COVID was just a bonus.
TPTB decide to release a bit of chaos every now and again. That explains Trump.
I like that explanation.
I do think Trump was kind of an accident, but “they” then allowed to happen what happened.
I’ve stated before I believe there is a global effort by TPTB to equalize the planet. I never forget this is a conspiracy site.
Yes, there is a global effort by TPTB,it is called the NEW WORLD ORDER!
We just might be seeing the birthing of this abomination right before our
eyes.
Why is it an abomination.
Why is leveling the global playing field an abomination.
Personally, I think organized religion is the abomination of this world.
Trump sure took advantage of it for control.
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The GOP was in shambles even before 2016, and Trump looked like he could be a lifesaver for them. And he could have been! If he had just been a
little bit more like a regular person instead of, well... Trump. You know. Gracious. Thankful. Willing to listen to the old hats. Willing to take
wise suggestions. But that didn't happen.
People are still voting Republican because they generally don't like the idea of a congress and White House both run by the same party. But there are the huge number of Republicans out there who thought "anything Trump wants" was a workable party platform. And now they'll have to pay the piper.
They PSYOP'd themselves. We'll see how that turns out in the next few years.
People are still voting Republican because they generally don't like the idea of a congress and White House both run by the same party. But there are the huge number of Republicans out there who thought "anything Trump wants" was a workable party platform. And now they'll have to pay the piper.
They PSYOP'd themselves. We'll see how that turns out in the next few years.