Was The Trump Era a PSYOP for the Planned the Destruction of the Right?

I have long harbored an idea, a "crazy conspiracy theory" about Donald Trump and the last four years. I have always hoped that I was dead wrong, that it was nothing more than a "crazy conspiracy theory", but I am beginning to have my doubts. I created a thread about it once here awhile back and it was discussed to some length. The more I see what is happening and the more ineffectiveness and even what I consider inaction by the administration, the more I lean toward thinking that I had it figured out a long time ago.

What if the last four years of Trump administration have been nothing more than a massive PSYOP and Donald J. Trump was in on it from the beginning, playing us all to the same end that the Deep State has been? Here is what would be the takeaway from it.

First, once the final fix is in, the Right is totally crushed: disillusioned, discouraged and disgusted. A discouraged enemy is much easier to defeat. Let them taste victory at their fingertips, then yank it away like taking a bottle from the grasp of a hungry baby just to watch him cry in dismay and be powerless to do anything about it.

Second, we (conservatives) have all felt very confident and very positive over the last four years. This has encouraged us to be very vocal, especially on social media platforms. We've outed ourselves, essentially branded ourselves. Every tweet, every FB post, every ATS thread, every comment on YT and every news site. They got us to out ourselves. They know who we are. They know what we believe. They know where we live. They know who will be a problem in the coming regime. They have admitted publicly time and again that they do not consider eliminating opposition to be a moral, ethical or political problem.

Again, I hope that I am wrong, but things have been adding up for too long in my head. Q (and I never put much stock in that enigma) could have been a major part of the operation, a deep disinformation, double-agent type campaign. Despite all the promises (e.g., "Because if I were president, you would be in jail."), not a damn thing of worth has happened. I kept telling myself, He's waiting for his second term so that they have a solid case and can bring the hammer down without concern for its effects on re-election. But was he? Does that even really make sense?

I hope that I am wrong. But I am less and less certain of that possibility as each day passes and we slip toward having a communist-sympathizing, sold-out, bought-and-paid-for puppet of foreign regimes in the Oval Office.
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a reply to: incoserv

If what you is accurate, how ironic is it that in the process of trying to expose every conservative out there (or non-democrat should I say), that you actually did what was necessary to make this country flourish and showed America that it's still possible...

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: incoserv

If what you is accurate, how ironic is it that in the process of trying to expose every conservative out there (or non-democrat should I say), that you actually did what was necessary to make this country flourish and showed America that it's still possible...

There is my analogy of taking a bottle out of the grasp of the hungry baby. Here, baby, you're hungry? Here's a nice, warm, tasty bottle. ... HA! YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!

They don't care what is possible. As a matter of fact, what is possible is exactly the problem, is exactly what they hate, because what is possible makes people independent of government, makes people productive and creative and happy and free.

So, use the cure as the poison.
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a reply to: incoserv

If I wanted a global government i would infiltrate both "sides" then deliberately collapse the whole system from within.

With enough fear, confusion and downright ridiculous behaviour you could undermine and destroy any faith in traditional democratic government.
Maybe we'll end up begging for an alternative to electing "the wrong kind" of leader and someone is ready to step up and take over.

Maybe that alternative could only be worse.

originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: incoserv

If I wanted a global government i would infiltrate both "sides" then deliberately collapse the whole system from within.

With enough fear, confusion and downright ridiculous behaviour you could undermine and destroy any faith in traditional democratic government.
Maybe we'll end up begging for an alternative to electing "the wrong kind" of leader and someone is ready to step up and take over.

Maybe that alternative could only be worse.

That alternative will be worse. If the ones who will "step up" are the same ones who destroyed the systems already in place to begin with, you can damn well bet that there is no altruistic motive behind it.

I have always said and firmly believed that eventually a people get the leadership they deserve. Maybe we, as a nation, will get what we deserve.

a reply to: incoserv

only a leftist can answer that. but unfortunately we have to keep it a secret.

although it must also be said that right-wing movements usually destroy themselves from within.

a reply to: incoserv



Since I am in the middle, I think it would be great if both the 'right' and the 'left' collapsed.

Maybe the 'middle' could rise in that kind of vacuum?

I mean, normal, average, independent types leading? That'd rock!

a reply to: Fowlerstoad

I see the current situation a bit like trench warfare.

Both sides have dug in so the guy in no man's land gets shot at from both sides.

originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: incoserv



Since I am in the middle, I think it would be great if both the 'right' and the 'left' collapsed.

Maybe the 'middle' could rise in that kind of vacuum?

I mean, normal, average, independent types leading? That'd rock!

I agree ...

Except that won't be what rises up from the rubble.

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: incoserv

only a leftist can answer that. but unfortunately we have to keep it a secret.

although it must also be said that right-wing movements usually destroy themselves from within.

Every movement destroys itself from within. Sometimes they have a little help from without.

The charade shall continue. Unabated. Realize it is all an illusion.

So does this mean 3% unemployment will never return and taxes will go way up ?

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So glad to see a Republican (I call them Retardican like I call Democrats Demmytards but I won't label you that) with this point of view, a very rare one that has picked up speed as soon as Trump became #1 Lover of the poison/vaccine. He loves it just as much as Biden does. And what's incredible to me is that the brainwashing of worshipping Trump is just as strong as the brainwashing of worshipping Biden. It's also as strong as the Donald Trump Syndrome sufferers. No matter how much I bring up the facts that he was involved with Epstein, invited the Clinton's to his WEDDING, never threw Killary in prison, he initiated Operation WarpSpeed, and has labeled the vaccine as "100% safe" and "a miracle" all the TrumpTards do is say:
"he kicked him out"
And they never have a comeback for the wedding invite nor the Killary prison throwing, initiating Operation WarpSpeed and his love for the vaccine.
Never got on the Trump train, never got on the Biden train. There is no left/right parties, only one and the Libtards and Retardicans are part of it.
Trump has been nothing but controlled opposition. He kept the armed and more independent civilians docile and, with the help of psy op Q, "trusting the plan."
Now, if you logically question the safeness of this poison, you're labelled a Trumper. It's perfect. With help from the in-on-the-plans mainstream media and Trump following his script, they got everyone to hate Trump and create a group of people that will always be brought up, Trumpers. Now if you logically question the safeness of the poison, you're labeled as a Trumper. He was playing 10 D Chess but not for our benefit.
I've been spewing the same s#it for months on here to deaf ears and to some able of hearing ones.
Because of the absolute willingness of the "right" to support Trump, they unknowingly pushed the agenda we're seeing play out now.
We've been more divided and distracted these past four years than ever before, which has prevented us from uniting and realizing "hey, actually the WHOLE government is corrupt and never on our side, let's f#ck them up even if we eventually get killed." We would never win because they're armed to the gills and beyond powerful, but at least The Little Humans That Could were able to fight back and even though we lost, we foiled there plans because we were uncontrollable.

a reply to: incoserv

Ive pondered the same, many times over the last 4+ years.

I have found many strange things while researching to find whats really going on. Trumps favorite uncle John pops up in some very strange places, and always told the media exactly what the government seemed to want them to believe.

Right in there up to his eyeballs in the whole Nikola Tesla saga, and had access to all of Tesla's work. Seems like I read he was involved with area 51 too. Someone looks like they could be his offspring....


That said, President Trump's body language appears to indicate that he is patriotic, and not involved.
His appointments to the SC also suggest that he is not involved. A house divided falls.

Bottom line Trump knew there was going to be cheating, and it is not like him to not have a plan in place to catch them. There actually may be a plan that has been in motion for some time now. If so, the best is yet to come!

a reply to: visitedbythem
Wow, the hold this man has on you is strong. Your logical brain was showing in the first half of your post, but then the Worship and Trust Lord and Savior Trump At All Costs part kicked in.
You do know he can easily be following a script, a script that requires "patriotic" body language to fool people like you. He loves the vaccine as much as Biden, invited the Clinton's to his wedding, and never threw Killary in prison. But you ignores those anomalies don't you?
He's been controlled opposition this whole time. Best come to terms with the fact that he's a swamp creature swimming in The Undrained Swamp now or a rude awakening is incoming for you

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
So glad to see a Republican (I call them Retardican like I call Democrats Demmytards but I won't label you that) with this point of view...

Excuse me ... I am not a Republican. Please do not call me that!

I bailed on the Republican party back during the dark George W. Bush years. Robert Baer and Craig Unger had a lot to do with that; almost as much as W's lies.

I do not align with any party or movement. I am an Independent of a conservative bent but a staunch minarchist at heart.

I actively campaigned for Ron Paul back in 2012 - the most I have ever been involved in a campaign - but I am not a Libertarian. At least, not a textbook Libertarian.

I wrote in Ron Paul 2012 because I considered Romney to be of the same cut as Hussein, essentially a vanilla cookie compared to Obama's oreo, but made from the same dough.

I voted for Trump mainly because I would have voted for the devil himself against Hillary. I had hopes, but they were reserved. I feel like I have watched both parties tear themselves apart from within.

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originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: incoserv

only a leftist can answer that. but unfortunately we have to keep it a secret.

although it must also be said that right-wing movements usually destroy themselves from within.

Every movement destroys itself from within. Sometimes they have a little help from without.

extreme movements usually destroy themselves. other movements anchor themselves in society and become an accepted model. the environmental protection movement of 'green' parties in the 80s is today supported by all democratic parties (in germany). #climatestrike can't fail because it still has its global impact: raising people's awareness. the same with #metoo or #blm. these movements have become part of the dna of the younger generation.

the right-wing movement had its chance but they (once again) failed. and they failed because of themselves. besides, this 'my country above all' ideology doesn't work in a time when the whole world is connected and the borders are becoming more and more blurred.

originally posted by: americanbuffalo1
The charade shall continue. Unabated. Realize it is all an illusion.

I don't think so. I think that the charade is about over.

A charade is defined as "an absurd pretense intended to create a pleasant or respectable appearance." I don't think that we'll be seeing much pretense from here on out.

originally posted by: oloufo

extreme movements usually destroy themselves. other movements anchor themselves in society and become an accepted model. ... the same with #metoo or #blm. these movements have become part of the dna of the younger generation.

BLM and MeToo? That's funny. That's really hilarious.

In a sad kind of way.
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a reply to: incoserv

I don't necessarily agree, but gave you a star and flag for thinking out of the box.

Trump isn't part of the elite. Yes, he is rich, but it takes more than money to be part of the elite class.

Trump is to the Republicans what Bernie or Tulsi is to Democrats.

Trump is not liked by establishment Republicans. Remember, Republicans despise him too. The only Republicans that were for Trump were the little guys. The blue collar workers. Those of us who care about America first.

The establishment Republicans are globalist just like Democrats. If you recall, every Republican running 2016 hemmed and hawed about illegal immigration being an issue until Trump said screw that and started pushing the wall. This is when his popularity sky rocketed because the regular voters know it is an issue.

Trump was a black swan that the Republican establishment nor the Democrats expected. None of their opposition research or games were setup to deal with Trump. The Republican establishment was backing Jeb Bush.

It is really sad as Trump was about the closest thing to a true third party President we will ever get. What is crazy, is that if the progressive base wasn't so stupid, they'd see Trump was good for them too. Trump was pulling us out of wars. He was actually doing things to try to help the black community. He supported LBTQ rights (within reason).

Trump could cure cancer and the left would complain about him putting Oncologist out of work but that is another topic...