What now this happened in America why why now is it trumps fault

I think those that like Trump ( China, Russia and India ) had their way of thanking him.

I think this will affect the stock market on a worldwide basis. Time to check out the stock market and see what will take place.

Suspected Russian hackers spied on U.S. Treasury emails - sources

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Hackers believed to be working for Russia have been monitoring internal email traffic at the U.S. Treasury and Commerce departments, according to people familiar with the matter, adding they feared the hacks uncovered so far may be the tip of the iceberg.

a reply to: musicismagic

"I think those that like Trump ( China, Russia and India ) had their way of thanking him."

Thanking him how though? Your thread doesn't mention anything about it. How does russian hackers having gained access translate as a thank you from Trump?

Are you saying or eluding that Trump gave them access?

I'll assume so since this thread seems like nonsense with ill intent.

a reply to: musicismagic

I’ve been hearing this for trumps entire administration.
What has Russia gotten in the last four years?
Did trump sell them uranium?
What has China gotten in the last four years?
Did they buy Alaska?

Trump hasn't done much good for America. Maybe himself and "his buddies", but not much at all for the good of all. Just another turd in the swamp. His Admin did some good things. But, all we are seeing is his America. I need someone to type out what he did specifically to help America. Again, 3/4's of a $Billion$ to Kodak so they can make drugs? (eye roll) Anyone, please!!a reply to: musicismagic

Is it really hacking if they entered into those systems by using access permissions that were given to them? How many people from the last Administration are still in the system, but no longer in their office?

Just something to ponder.

a reply to: musicismagic

China, Russia, Iran, Israel have been breaking into the systems of the Federal government for years.

Another reason why the Clinton Email "Scandal" was such blatant BS. But I digress.

a reply to: Guyfriday

And those of us w S.C.'s...know you're out, you're instantly...poof. i.d./badge...pfft

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Guyfriday

And those of us w S.C.'s...know you're out, you're instantly...poof. i.d./badge...pfft

Not necessarily.
Things that should happen , but sometimes don't part 1.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Guyfriday

And those of us w S.C.'s...know you're out, you're instantly...poof. i.d./badge...pfft

Brennan was able to go in and out of offices after he left office, so did many others. Hillary was always going in and out of the State Department after she had stepped down. So yes, Ideally the way you said it works should happen. In reality it's a lot more loose than that in many places.

I also had a Security Clearance back in the 90's, and the way DC worked back then was that once you had one, you always had one. I sickened me sometimes when you would see a person being allowed into a place even though you knew hey had their clearance revoked for one reason or another.

Don't forget what Sandy Berger did back in 2003. Document destruction of original documents without backups? What in the heck was he hiding?

This was a farce.

Sandy Berger Wikipedia link.

On July 19, 2004, it was revealed that the United States Department of Justice was investigating Berger for unauthorized removal of classified documents in October 2003 from a National Archives reading room prior to testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The documents were five classified copies of a single report commissioned from Richard Clarke covering internal assessments of the Clinton Administration's handling of the unsuccessful 2000 millennium attack plots. An associate of Berger said Berger took one copy in September 2003 and four copies in October 2003, allegedly by stuffing the documents into his socks and pants.[20][21] Berger subsequently lied to investigators when questioned about the removal of the documents.[22]

In April 2005, Berger pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material from the National Archives in Washington, D.C.[23]

Berger was fined $50,000,[24] sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for three years.[22][25] The Justice Department initially said Berger only stole copies of classified documents and not originals,[26] but the House Government Reform Committee later revealed that an unsupervised Berger had been given access to classified files of original, uncopied, uninventoried documents on terrorism. During the House Government Reform Committee hearings, Nancy Kegan Smith — who was the director of the presidential documents staff at the National Archives and Records Administration — acknowledged that she had granted Berger access to original materials in her office.[27]

On December 20, 2006, Inspector General Paul Brachfeld reported that Berger took a break to go outside without an escort. "In total, during this visit, he removed four documents ... Mr. Berger said he placed the documents under a trailer in an accessible construction area outside Archives 1 (the main Archives building)". Berger acknowledged having later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.[28][29]

On May 17, 2007, Berger relinquished his license to practice law as a result of the Justice Department investigation. Saying, "I have decided to voluntarily relinquish my license. ... While I derived great satisfaction from years of practicing law, I have not done so for 15 years and do not envision returning to the profession. I am very sorry for what I did, and I deeply apologize." By giving up his license, Berger avoided cross-examination by the Bar Counsel regarding details of his thefts.[30]

a reply to: Guyfriday

I've had mine since '75, and D.H.S./FEMA since 2008

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Guyfriday

I've had mine since '75, and D.H.S./FEMA since 2008

Nice, so you know how things work vs how they are suppose to work.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

This.

On my last day, my logins were dead a half hour before I ever even walked out the door for the last time.

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a reply to: Guyfriday

Oh yeah. Just retired...still have mine, same, diff level...still involved I.C.S./ Triage Assessment.

I suppose too w my connections I can access info, people, records...always know somebody....so in that. Yeah.

a reply to: nenothtu

Me too. One of Big 3 auto guys. Head of a Security detail Corp. Court...had keys, access, non disclosure, V.I.P. family etc...

My last day our the door, left case at inside car porter Exec entrance. Turned around....badge dead. Less than 5!!!

originally posted by: ntech
Don't forget what Sandy Berger did back in 2003. Document destruction of original documents without backups? What in the heck was he hiding?

This was a farce.

Sandy Berger Wikipedia link.

On July 19, 2004, it was revealed that the United States Department of Justice was investigating Berger for unauthorized removal of classified documents in October 2003 from a National Archives reading room prior to testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The documents were five classified copies of a single report commissioned from Richard Clarke covering internal assessments of the Clinton Administration's handling of the unsuccessful 2000 millennium attack plots. An associate of Berger said Berger took one copy in September 2003 and four copies in October 2003, allegedly by stuffing the documents into his socks and pants.[20][21] Berger subsequently lied to investigators when questioned about the removal of the documents.[22]

In April 2005, Berger pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material from the National Archives in Washington, D.C.[23]

Berger was fined $50,000,[24] sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for three years.[22][25] The Justice Department initially said Berger only stole copies of classified documents and not originals,[26] but the House Government Reform Committee later revealed that an unsupervised Berger had been given access to classified files of original, uncopied, uninventoried documents on terrorism. During the House Government Reform Committee hearings, Nancy Kegan Smith — who was the director of the presidential documents staff at the National Archives and Records Administration — acknowledged that she had granted Berger access to original materials in her office.[27]

On December 20, 2006, Inspector General Paul Brachfeld reported that Berger took a break to go outside without an escort. "In total, during this visit, he removed four documents ... Mr. Berger said he placed the documents under a trailer in an accessible construction area outside Archives 1 (the main Archives building)". Berger acknowledged having later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.[28][29]

On May 17, 2007, Berger relinquished his license to practice law as a result of the Justice Department investigation. Saying, "I have decided to voluntarily relinquish my license. ... While I derived great satisfaction from years of practicing law, I have not done so for 15 years and do not envision returning to the profession. I am very sorry for what I did, and I deeply apologize." By giving up his license, Berger avoided cross-examination by the Bar Counsel regarding details of his thefts.[30]

Seems he had a pretty good track record previous to that. It said he took copies in both September and October, but then said he only took an uncopied original. I wonder what the truth is on that? If he actually took copies, then I’d assume he was just selling them to whoever he wanted to take money from. If it was just the one, original copy, it was either to destroy or to sell.

It’s exact stuff like that you shouldn’t be able to hide behind the law with. There’s no reason anyone should be able to steal classified documents and not get questioned about it in lieu of giving up a law license.

The problems of post WW2 America fall on a lot of people, it wasn’t him.

However, he sure did make it spicy. Maybe he is the last president and from here on out it’s complete and utter fraud and dissenters are silenced.

Time will tell.