NCAA basketball player in critical condition

A sad story of an outstanding athlete the collapsed during a game. This young man averaged about 20pts per game. I really hate seeing these stories but had to share.
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There is a video on YT but having a difficult time posting it.

a reply to: pizzaphace

I hope he will be ok.

No more sports till everyone has had the covID vax.

ETA - I just used the last bit: LUMajyWjEdw

originally posted by: pizzaphace
There is a video on YT but having a difficult time posting it.

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Like most of his teammates, Johnson tested positive for COVID-19 during the summer. Although the cause of Johnson's ailment was not immediately known, the coronavirus can lead to myocarditis, a viral infection of the heart muscle.

Read this paragraph very carefully.

They story wants you to assume that this kid collapsed because of COVID, but they don't know that and neither do we. Could that be it? Sure, but it would be beyond irresponsible for his university to not have checked for that if he had, in fact, tested positive for COVID over the summer. It's not like myocarditis is something you miss if you know it's something that may be there.

Every NCAA school knows their athletes are at risk for it because of COVID, and so they were all in intense discussion with cardiologists, specialist as to how to monitor for it and even if they could catch it easily enough to make the risk worth it, and the answer was that they could. And that's why they are all proceeding with play.

Also, it's not like there haven't been stories like this over the years with athletes collapsing on the court for various reasons. Sad as it is, it does happen.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: pizzaphace
There is a video on YT but having a difficult time posting it.

None of the players- none of his teammates- went to help him. They all just stood there. What the hell is wrong with everyone?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: pizzaphace
There is a video on YT but having a difficult time posting it.

None of the players- none of his teammates- went to help him. They all just stood there. What the hell is wrong with everyone?

You DO NOT assist.
You wave for the medical team.
Hades , we were taught that in High School football many decades ago.

a reply to: Gothmog
We were taught that in hockey growing up. If the player has a pulse and breathing, you are not in any way to touch him until medical personnel arrive. Otherwise you can provide CPR and that’s it.

originally posted by: ManSizedSquirrel
a reply to: Gothmog
We were taught that in hockey growing up. If the player has a pulse and breathing, you are not in any way to touch him until medical personnel arrive. Otherwise you can provide CPR and that’s it.

Only if your certification is up to date.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ManSizedSquirrel
a reply to: Gothmog
We were taught that in hockey growing up. If the player has a pulse and breathing, you are not in any way to touch him until medical personnel arrive. Otherwise you can provide CPR and that’s it.

Only if your certification is up to date.

Also correct.

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Otherwise, you can make things worse without realizing it or knowing it. For example, had he thrown up and then one of his teammates rolled him, he might have aspirated the vomit into his lungs setting him up to choke or get pneumonia.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ManSizedSquirrel
a reply to: Gothmog
We were taught that in hockey growing up. If the player has a pulse and breathing, you are not in any way to touch him until medical personnel arrive. Otherwise you can provide CPR and that’s it.

Only if your certification is up to date.

That is not correct. I was a red cross CPR trainer for some time. You can do CPR as long as you are comfortable with the process. Certification is just for places that require it such as employment at a health care facility, daycare of something like that. Anyone can and should assist and perform CPR if necessary as long as they know how -- just to be clear IF YOU KNOW HOW. There are good samaritan laws for this very reason.

As to organized sports, they may very well have protocol, but that doesn't mean you can't act if the need arises.

originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ManSizedSquirrel
a reply to: Gothmog
We were taught that in hockey growing up. If the player has a pulse and breathing, you are not in any way to touch him until medical personnel arrive. Otherwise you can provide CPR and that’s it.

Only if your certification is up to date.

That is not correct. I was a red cross CPR trainer for some time. You can do CPR as long as you are comfortable with the process. Certification is just for places that require it such as employment at a health care facility, daycare of something like that. Anyone can and should assist and perform CPR if necessary as long as they know how -- just to be clear IF YOU KNOW HOW. There are good samaritan laws for this very reason.

As to organized sports, they may very well have protocol, but that doesn't mean you can't act if the need arises.

One has to watch blanket statements .
There are a lot of factors that have to be considered . And a lot of areas have different requirements.
I know I still have to go back and be re-certified for my granddaughter.(not as often aswhen I was in High school)

Back to the original point.
One is told NOT TO ASSIST.
That is for the on duty medical response team present at ALL GAMES.

a reply to: ketsuko

That last part, true. Hank Gathers is probably the most famous as he died on the court back in '91. He never should have been on the court as he had a heart ailment and if this kid had myocarditis then the same with him. If that turns out to be the case then someone/s screwed the pooch really badly and should pay for screwing up so bad.

So sad and it's all for money and the kids get squat out of that and put their health and well being on the line. I love the game but hate the system.

a reply to: TheSpanishArcher

Of course, having been an athlete in the system myself, one thing that never gets considered is the athlete's personal desire to play. People don't understand how strong that need is to compete and to push yourself. It's frighteningly real and it's powerfully strong - strong enough that it's like an addict's need to get high.

There was a survey done with Olympic body builders about steroids where they were told about the long-term damage and trade-offs, and most of them didn't care. They short-term gains were such that they'd happily make the trades, even early death.

You can tell an athlete that playing is risking death or long-term damage, and plenty will still choose to go out and compete.

Even after having been out of the system for 20 years and only working recreationally, I still have the mindset, attitude, and need all these years later and tend to push myself almost too hard too easily. I was surprised. I didn't think that habit was still in there, but it is.

a reply to: pizzaphace

possible long term affect of covid hit him. He may have probs with his heart longterm.

Last I knew the military won't take you if you have had COVID maybe sports are next??

Strange world we live in