Texas Rep calling for secession 2020

Texas state Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R - obviously) has committed to filing legislation for a vote on secession from the United States.

"The federal government is out of control and does not represent the values of Texans. That is why I am committing to file legislation this session that will allow a referendum to give Texans a vote for the State of Texas to reassert its status as an independent nation," Texas state Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R) shared on Facebook on Tuesday.

The Hill

I completely agree that the federal government is getting out of control and does not represent the values of the majority of Texans.  It often feels like I live in a completely different country than many of my American brethren.  However, I don't feel like this is a wise move especially with our involvement in this election at the moment.

The idea of secession runs deep in Texas, and it always has as far as I'm aware.  Texas independence is a major part of our state culture.  This isn't the first attempt to bring secession to the table, and it won't be the last.

I don't see it going anywhere, and I'm glad.  In life you have to pick your teams. The United States is my team.  This whole country is going to hell in a hand basket, but what good am are we if we bail on our team when the going gets tough?

From the link above:

You can't claim to be patriotic and file a bill for Texas to secede from the union," Abhi Rahman, a spokesman for the Texas Democratic Party.

This is a rare instance where I tend to agree with a Democrat's political stance. At least for the moment.  Opinions and positions are always subject to change with new and/or corrected information.

What are your thoughts?  Is this simply political grandstanding to fuel the flames against what is the most disturbing American election in modern history?  Is this a wise play given our involvements in fighting the alleged election fraud?  Is it even possible that Texas could secede, and would the Union simply let us go?

If the constitution is just an old piece of paper, then the union is already null and void.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

To be fair, Texas is probably one of the few states that could secede from the Union and probably be ok. It's probably not the best idea with things in the world the way they are now though. It probably wouldn't be good for the US or Texas.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

If the US Government no longer holds the Constitutional agreements made between the states then the states have every right to secede.

Personally what I would rather see is a large group of states organized against the Federal Government. If half the states get together not to simply secede but to actually form a new nation maybe the people will finally wake up to what’s going on.

I have 180 acres in Texas leased, growing cotton and onions. Will my federal crop insurance be canceled or will Texas offer it's own insurance to farmers? How about loans and taxes?

Texas is just as corrupt as everywhere else...btw.

Slippery slope....

Depending on the immediate future, I would completely support my state separating itself from the east and west coast communist transvestite union.

I think the State of Texas should be it's own independent country, especially since Space X is moving there.

In the future: What country was first to send humans to Mars? TEXAS : )

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

The federal government was never supposed to be this big and in control. Our media silences or ignores two of the biggest corrupt scandals in our history, committed by our government. I think it's time. If this happens and Louisiana isn't right behind them then I'll move to TX. That's where my dad's side of the family all live anyways.

1) ever illegal bailed on their country

2) my first trip into texas, one of the first people I met, the first thing out of his mouth was, ‘would you care if Texas succeeds from the US?”

I said, you do you, LOLO.
Actually I said, whatever, dude

a reply to: olaru12

That would be up to Texas, but you'd probably get a much more lucrative offer than the feds give you.

If nothing else comes out of this, hopefully the next time it becomes a topic, people won't get secede mixed up with succeed. The words aren't even pronounced the same.

a reply to: LSU2018

With secession comes success...

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

The federal government was never supposed to be this big and in control. Our media silences or ignores two of the biggest corrupt scandals in our history, committed by our government. I think it's time. If this happens and Louisiana isn't right behind them then I'll move to TX. That's where my dad's side of the family all live anyways.

This is the problem... how do we reign in an out of control federal government? States have ceded all their control over to the feds.

Personally, I think we've crossed the point of no return.

originally posted by: olaru12
I have 180 acres in Texas leased, growing cotton and onions. Will my federal crop insurance be canceled or will Texas offer it's own insurance to farmers? How about loans and taxes?

Texas is just as corrupt as everywhere else...btw.

Slippery slope....

Exactly that is one of the many things which would seriously complicate secession. It'd be a very tricky move to be sure.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

My folks are in a moving truck right now headed to Dallas. Long live the Republic of Texas.

I would be one of the first to try to legally immigrate to Texas. My values more closely align with the freedom and individuality of the states population.

a reply to: LSU2018

I agree with the sentiment, but I'm not so sure secession is appropriate. The United States is worth standing up for.

the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure.

One day it will get to that point. Not today.

Besides, how can we abandon our countrymen who are holding out all around the country?

No, we should simply exercise our 10th amendment, and remind the federal government that the bill of rights does not grant us our freedoms. We already have it. It reminds and reiterates to the government that they don't have the right. Let us champion state rights.

We are the United states. The very name implies that we are each our own nations bound together by a single constitution which delegates certain powers to the federal government in order to solidify our bond.

Anything we don't wish to comply with as a state we can challenge whether the federal government has the authority. We can be the squeaky wheel.

But to turn our backs on those we've declared loyalty to, the American people, there's not even a modicum of honor. At least not yet.

... IMO

originally posted by: Fools
Depending on the immediate future, I would completely support my state separating itself from the east and west coast communist transvestite union.

Despite a profound difference of opinion as a native born Texan who loves home it is important to ride it out with my people. If something like this became a real possibility, then the only thing a loyal Texan can do is say his piece. If it happens, then play for the home team.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

Sounds like a pretty short sighted idea to me.

The US probably wouldn’t even allow Texas to own their own nukes. They’d just end up being a respectfully wealthy ‘little’ country that couldn’t even defend themselves from the rest of the world, without the protection of the US, just like Canada or Australia.

lol, secede from the US, only to become the US’s little bitch... it doesn’t make any sense.

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist

originally posted by: Fools
Depending on the immediate future, I would completely support my state separating itself from the east and west coast communist transvestite union.

Despite a profound difference of opinion as a native born Texan who loves home it is important to ride it out with my people. If something like this became a real possibility, then the only thing a loyal Texan can do is say his piece. If it happens, then play for the home team.

I hear you, this is very serious. I am in regard to political things, very serious. And I intend to continue being very serious.

I think the thing is that so far "my kind" has only observed, but observation is over.