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Atlas Hunkered Down While Asking 'Who is John Galt?'

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posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 03:46 PM
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63 years ago Ayn Rand wrote the thought provoking novel Atlas Shrugged. The novel was a cautionary tale of the dangers of an overreaching, all powerful and socialist government and how the only logical and sensible course of action against such a government is to starve the beast and starve the citizens who have supported/defended that beast as well. In many ways it can be argued that Rand's masterpiece involved her looking into a crystal ball at the United States of America from 2008 onward.

To recognize a simple fact that modern progressives have either been blissfully unlearned of or have chosen to be vapidly ignorant over, one has to look at Rand's personal history to see the source of her accurate beliefs on socialism. Rand was a Russian Jew born in an Imperial Russia, but that Russia quickly fell into civil war and was taken over by the communist Bolsheviks. As socialism's evils gripped Russia, Rand's pharmacist father watched the government seize his business and his assets in the name of "the greater good" and the family was forced to flee from their home country. She ended up in Crimea, which was soon enough also invaded by the Marxists and so the family returned to Russia. The Marxists briefly embraced the concept of higher education for all and Rand took advantage of that by enrolling in college in Saint Petersburg/Petrograd and studying history with an eye toward philosophy. This didn't last long, however, as the Marxists quickly began another war, this time a war of "equity" which targeted the "bourgeoisie" students and purged them from the universities. In the end, Rand fled Russia entirely and immigrated to the United States. Rand identified the inherent virtues and logic of individualism and merit based capitalism while preaching against the evils of collectivism and correctly identifying that Marxism/communism/socialism lead to totalitarian dictatorships and fascist destruction of individual Rights and merits.

Fast forward to the USA 2020... we've spent the past 6 months listening to petulant little jackasses whining and complaining about the bread and butter false accusations Lenin used to castigate the bourgeoisie in Russia... false ideologies like privilege, institutional racism, systemic misogyny... outright racial and class warfare and demonization in which the powers that be have encouraged and demanded that the incorrectly perceived "groups of privilege" are blamed for the nation's ills and must pay for it. A direct and open assault on the core American concepts of capitalism, individual Rights, liberty, property ownership, individualism, and free expression of beliefs that run counter to the official narratives, all in the bull# name of "the greater good." Unlawful closures of small, privately owned businesses again all in the name of "the greater good" and all actions functioning, in principle, the same as the Marxists in Russia outright seizing businesses. The Soviet Marxists of yesterday became the Democrats and Progressives of today and most of America sat around with their thumbs up their stinking asses and let it happen.

Rand didn't stop at predicting the situation, however. She also provided us with the solution for the situation. STARVE THE BEAST. The one constant in governments is the simple fact that they are crippled and impotent when they lack widespread compliance and money. The United States Founders were clear on several concepts. One concept which there can be no question of their belief in is the idea that the American government will only persist so long as We the People consent to be governed by them.

I DISSENT

We the People will only be milked for our time, money, and talents from the American government if we consent to permitting them to steal our lives.

I DISSENT

We the People will only be serfs to these animals and the pandering government they sold their votes to if we consent to permit them to hold anything over us.

I DISSENT

The United States of America will only remain united as a single nation is We the People consent to it remaining united.

I DISSENT

A divorce needs to happen. There's no reason to make it an ugly divorce. Many divorces between individual spouses occur each year through a mutual agreement that the relationship is over, the two parties are incompatible, and a separation is the healthiest, most logical path forward for both. All that takes is the two sides to consent to the mutually agreed divorce and both parties move on.

I CONSENT
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posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:09 PM
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I like your mindset, Burdman. We, the People, have the power.
WE granted the Federal Government the authority to do these things....unfortunately indirectly or not.

BUT: I am not optimistic. I see far too many people who are deathly afraid of the real struggle it would take to get this so-called "divorce" you speak of. They are all the whiny, extreme left or right, obese, lazy, armchair warriors who when faced with real struggle, cry that the game is rigged against them or think that a youtube video will save them when things get real.

Instead of training, practicing, or educating themselves on what the appropriate action can be, all I see are people who willingly turn a blind eye to this insanity because they are too busy fulfilling their lust for material things and porn.

Man, I am becoming cynical as I get older.

You going to give up everything and fight the power?





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posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

An excellent OP and I agree... we are going to have to wage a war of attrition on what is coming.

I have stated that many times the last few months.

As a Rand fan, I was first given hope on what is to come by listening to the plans of the smaller oil companies I have dealt with over the years.

The vast majority of them are battening down their hatches and are just going to wait it out by only producing what is needed to make payroll... nothing more.

Farmers I have known for decades are gearing up to do the same.

Ranchers have the same thoughts about the matter here locally.

As a business owner, I am going to do exactly the same.

Want to raise my taxes and regulate me to the point that my business is no longer profitable?

Fine.... I just won't play the game anymore.

All in all last year my total tax bill (company and individual, 2 states and Federal) was a little under 1.2 million dollars.

I am but one of thousands and thousands of small business owners.

Next year my total tax burden is going to be zero dollars, with the exception of local (property, etc) taxes.

I used to employ 14 people... average wage over $100k.

Next year?

Zero.

Will this effect me personally?

I already have enough to live off of for the rest of my life, so....

Not at all.

The next war we are going into is the war of attrition.

Let's see the government tax its way out of that one.

Let's also see what happens when people who produce nothing of actual value suddenly don't have enough food on their shelves.

S&F for the OP.




posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

It's posts like these that make ATS great, totally had forgotten about Atlas Shrugged. Spot on...



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
Let's also see what happens when people who produce nothing of actual value suddenly don't have enough food on their shelves.

They'll still have each other.

Muwhahahahaha



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

It is small-minded and limiting to believe that the world of Ayn's book is an inevitable outcome, rather than a single possibility in a vast continuum of alternate possibilities.



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:46 PM
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APPLAUD

How does the consenting divorce look?



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
APPLAUD

How does the consenting divorce look?



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 05:25 PM
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Following.
Rainbows
Jane



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Ayn Rand ... famous possible recipient of Social Security benefits... yes, I know that the Ayn Rand Institute disputes it.

I do agree with your fourth point however.

When the relationship is over, best end it and move on productively.

However, there is no indication that the ruling elite actually want that to happen yet.

Good luck with the thread Burd.


edit on 6-12-2020 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: burdman30ott6

It is small-minded and limiting to believe that the world of Ayn's book is an inevitable outcome, rather than a single possibility in a vast continuum of alternate possibilities.


It is wise to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I don't see a "best" coming out of a Biden win.

~shrug~



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 05:35 PM
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I read books about Ayn Rand.

I found them more enlightening than Atlas Shrugs.


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posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
I read books about Ayn Rand.

I found them more enlightening than Atlas Shrugs.


Of course you did.

There are a few butthurt leftists that have made a lot of money selling books about how horrible Rand was.

Simply because they could not understand what she was writing about.

That whole conformation bias thing.




posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Annee
I read books about Ayn Rand.

I found them more enlightening than Atlas Shrugs.


Of course you did.

There are a few butthurt leftists that have made a lot of money selling books about how horrible Rand was.

Simply because they could not understand what she was writing about.

That whole conformation bias thing.





I am a futurist — who supports a United Planet (not the political/conspiracy NWO).

I am not particularly Left — “That which is not earned, has no value”.

But, Traditionalist are scared. Their way of life is at the losing end.



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




How does the consenting divorce look?


I'm guessin the same way a shot gun wedding does.


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posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I've seen you actively defend Planned Parenthood, which was founded by the noted racist and eugenicist Margaret Sanger. So we've established that the message is more important to you than the messenger's history and character. With that in mind, what did you find interesting about Ayn Rand, the Russian Jew whose family's entire assets were destroyed by Marxists and who was *still* considered "privileged" and worthy of additional criticism and economic penalty by those same Marxists even after her family was left nearly destitue?


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posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Annee
I read books about Ayn Rand.

I found them more enlightening than Atlas Shrugs.


Of course you did.

There are a few butthurt leftists that have made a lot of money selling books about how horrible Rand was.

Simply because they could not understand what she was writing about.

That whole conformation bias thing.





I am a futurist — who supports a United Planet (not the political/conspiracy NWO).

I am not particularly Left — “That which is not earned, has no value”.

But, Traditionalist are scared. Their way of life is at the losing end.


A futurist is simply a Progressive.

So, while you say that Traditionalists (Conservatives) are facing the losing end, that simply is not so.

There has never been a Socialist/Progressive government that has ever worked in the world's history.

They only way that a Progressive ideology works is by using Capitalism to launch itself.

Once that happens, the society and its economy decays to the point where it collapses...

And then returns to a system that works.

Which oddly enough, always turns out to be a Capitalist one.

Futurists destroy an economy.

Traditionalists build it back from the ashes.

You are on the wrong side of history.




posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
But, Traditionalist are scared. Their way of life is at the losing end.


Unless and until we fight back with whatever methods are necessary to win that fight and retain our way of life, you're absolutely correct. Thus, I propose we either amicably divorce or we do it Henry VIIIth style.



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I've seen you actively defend Planned Parenthood, which was founded by the noted racist and eugenicist Margaret Sanger. So we've established that the message is more important to you than the messenger's history and character. With that in mind, what did you find interesting about Ayn Rand, the Russian Jew whose family's entire assets were destroyed by Marxists and who was *still* considered "privileged" and worthy of additional criticism and economic penalty by those same Marxists even after her family was left nearly destitue?


Why do you bother... LOL

The left can never debate the issue but instead always has to attack the source.

Like bringing up Rand and Social Security.

Is Social Security voluntary?

It is not.

So collecting it should be seen as restitution for monies taken.

Not collecting "welfare".

A point which seems to be lost on the left.

~shrug~



posted on Dec, 6 2020 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Annee
I read books about Ayn Rand.

I found them more enlightening than Atlas Shrugs.


Of course you did.

There are a few butthurt leftists that have made a lot of money selling books about how horrible Rand was.

Simply because they could not understand what she was writing about.

That whole conformation bias thing.





I am a futurist — who supports a United Planet (not the political/conspiracy NWO).

I am not particularly Left — “That which is not earned, has no value”.

But, Traditionalist are scared. Their way of life is at the losing end.


A futurist is simply a Progressive.

So, while you say that Traditionalists (Conservatives) are facing the losing end, that simply is not so.

There has never been a Socialist/Progressive government that has ever worked in the world's history.

They only way that a Progressive ideology works is by using Capitalism to launch itself.

Once that happens, the society and its economy decays to the point where it collapses...

And then returns to a system that works.

Which oddly enough, always turns out to be a Capitalist one.

Futurists destroy an economy.

Traditionalists build it back from the ashes.

You are on the wrong side of history.



You do not define me.

And, yes — traditionalist are on the losing end.

Society is changing.



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