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First 2020 Election Case Reaches SCOTUS - PA Republicans -vs- The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

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posted on Dec, 3 2020 @ 10:43 PM
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Thursday, December 3, 2020

I'm not sure what the Republicans, led by Pennsylvania Congressman Mike Kelly want the U.S. Supreme Court to do, but it's impressive that the case has reached this level. The SCOTUS has categorized it as an "emergency injunction" request.

If the case is accepted, the Justice to rule on it will be Samuel Alito. Alito is the same Justice who told Pennsylvania to remove late-arriving mailed-in ballots from the vote total, because they were illegal. It's not clear if the state complied.

Here are the questions presented to Justice Alito..

1.) Do the Elections and Electors Clauses of the United States Constitution permit Pennsylvania to violate its state constitution’s restrictions on its lawmaking power when enacting legislation for the conduct of federal elections?

2.) Do the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution permit the dismissal of Petitioners’ claims with prejudice, on the basis of laches, where doing so foreclosed any opportunity for Petitioners to seek retrospective and prospective relief for ongoing constitutional violations?
Excerpted from this 50 Page PDF document filing: www.supremecourt.gov...

Docket Case Number is 20A98, for searching at: www.supremecourt.gov...

For those who understand legal terms, what is being requested? (See page 50)

President Trump's legal team is preparing an election-related filing for the U.S. Supreme Court also. If Justice Alito does not accept this case, there is at least one more inbound.

-CareWeMust
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posted on Dec, 3 2020 @ 10:45 PM
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In other news, Orville-Redenbacher stock is on the rise!



posted on Dec, 3 2020 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Did the Pennsylvania Supreme Court have the right to change election law weeks before the election? Or was that unconstitutional because the constitution gives that power only to the legislature?

They have overstepped their legal authority. The constitution makes the separation of powers very clear the Supreme Court does not make laws or create programs it only decides whether they are constitutional.

2. The court dismissed claims from petitioners without ordering any investigation. Did they have the right to do that? I may be a little off on the second one. Could be more too it

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posted on Dec, 3 2020 @ 11:41 PM
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If the precincts knew that they had to discard late arrivals, wouldn't it be possible for them to hold the republican areas ballots till past the time so they could invalidate them.

There are endless ways to cheat.



posted on Dec, 3 2020 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, December 3, 2020

I'm not sure what the Republicans, led by Pennsylvania Congressman Mike Kelly want the U.S. Supreme Court to do, but it's impressive that the case has reached this level. The SCOTUS has categorized it as an "emergency injunction" request.

If the case is accepted, the Justice to rule on it will be Samuel Alito. Alito is the same Justice who told Pennsylvania to remove late-arriving mailed-in ballots from the vote total, because they were illegal. It's not clear if the state complied.

Here are the questions presented to Justice Alito..

1.) Do the Elections and Electors Clauses of the United States Constitution permit Pennsylvania to violate its state constitution’s restrictions on its lawmaking power when enacting legislation for the conduct of federal elections?

2.) Do the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution permit the dismissal of Petitioners’ claims with prejudice, on the basis of laches, where doing so foreclosed any opportunity for Petitioners to seek retrospective and prospective relief for ongoing constitutional violations?
Excerpted from this 50 Page PDF document filing: www.supremecourt.gov...

Docket Case Number is 20A98, for searching at: www.supremecourt.gov...

For those who understand legal terms, what is being requested? (See page 50)

President Trump's legal team is preparing an election-related filing for the U.S. Supreme Court also. If Justice Alito does not accept this case, there is at least one more inbound.

-CareWeMust


This is only an application for an emergency injunction. The court will not decide whether to hear this; Alito will just decide whether to grant or deny the application. The parties' certiorari briefing will come later; that's when the Court will decide whether to hear the case on the merits. I'd put the odds at slightly more likely than not that Alito does not grant the motion.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 04:14 AM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

Maybe answers to your questions are forthcoming.

Justice Alito has given the PA Secretary of State until December 9th to respond.

Source: twitter.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 08:04 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Thank you for sharing this!

I keep running out of popcorn!

This movie is getting good!




posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Good to see it's nearing the end.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 08:56 AM
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Just so we all understand what's going on here ... you guys are advocating that the Supreme Court of the United States, set aside the legislative authority of the State of Pennsylvania?

Not only that, you're asking that the decision of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania be discarded which was unanimous?

You do realize that's what you're suggesting? What happened to the sanctity of Amendment X? States Rights?

PFft.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Isurrender73

Maybe answers to your questions are forthcoming.

Justice Alito has given the PA Secretary of State until December 9th to respond.

Source: twitter.com...



Yeah, that's not a good sign for Plaintiffs:

Pennsylvania has already certified its electors, and the timing of Alito’s order means #SCOTUS wouldn’t even be able to act on this nonsense before the federal safe-harbor deadline—which is December 8.Pretty clever of Justice Alito—and also a clear sign that this has no chance. t.co...— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) December 4, 2020

Basically, by scheduling responses after the safe harbor deadline, Alito is ensuring that there will be nothing that the Supreme Court could do here.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: johnnylaw16

I'm starting to appreciate the way you think.

That hadn't occured to me. It is a very strong signal to anyone who can read signals.

Well pointed out!



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

As seen when Lincoln had his civil war States do not have absolute authority to do as they please. The PA SC broke legislative law by putting their decision over the legislature.

Al gore CONCEDED on dec 13th, btw for the sock puppets,after the safe harbor date. Until they go to washington they are not set in stone.
edit on 20000000ppam by yuppa because: added info.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Just so we all understand what's going on here ... you guys are advocating that the Supreme Court of the United States, set aside the legislative authority of the State of Pennsylvania?

Not only that, you're asking that the decision of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania be discarded which was unanimous?

You do realize that's what you're suggesting? What happened to the sanctity of Amendment X? States Rights?

PFft.


Don’t the PA state legislatures make up a significant portion of the plaintiffs in this case? It’s my understanding that the PA LEGISLATURE is saying they did NOT give their authority to the changes in the law as is required and the PA Supreme Court VIOLATED their legislative powers and that violates their state constitution that defines the separate powers of each branch in their state government.

So basically SCOTUS is being asked to force the PA governor, SOS and Supreme Court to follow their state constitution. As a Michigander I have zero issue with that and am even slightly jealous as our governor and SOS continue to repeatedly ignore our state constitution as well.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: FinallyFree72

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Just so we all understand what's going on here ... you guys are advocating that the Supreme Court of the United States, set aside the legislative authority of the State of Pennsylvania?

Not only that, you're asking that the decision of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania be discarded which was unanimous?

You do realize that's what you're suggesting? What happened to the sanctity of Amendment X? States Rights?

PFft.


Don’t the PA state legislatures make up a significant portion of the plaintiffs in this case? It’s my understanding that the PA LEGISLATURE is saying they did NOT give their authority to the changes in the law as is required and the PA Supreme Court VIOLATED their legislative powers and that violates their state constitution that defines the separate powers of each branch in their state government.

So basically SCOTUS is being asked to force the PA governor, SOS and Supreme Court to follow their state constitution. As a Michigander I have zero issue with that and am even slightly jealous as our governor and SOS continue to repeatedly ignore our state constitution as well.


Plaintiffs are a very small group of state legislators, not the state legislature as body. The state legislature is the body that passed the law that is now being challenged. This small group of legislatures is now claiming that the law that their government body passed is not constitutional. SCOTUS is being asked to strike down a law enacted by the PA state legislature; it has nothing to do with the governor or Secretary of State. The PA Supreme Court previously found that Plaintiffs' challenge to the law failed for a number of reasons related to the timing of the lawsuit.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 11:40 AM
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Today is CONFERENCE DAY at the US Supreme Court.

www.supremecourt.gov...

The Pennsylvania case COULD be accepted or rejected by Justice Alito today.

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OOPS..Nevermind. Alito will probably not render a decision until December 9th.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Today is CONFERENCE DAY at the US Supreme Court.

www.supremecourt.gov...

The Pennsylvania case COULD be accepted or rejected by Justice Alito today.

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OOPS..Nevermind. Alito will probably not render a decision until December 9th.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Yeah, pretty sure they haven't even submitted a cert petition yet, which is how the Supreme Court is notified that a request to review the case has been made.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 12:05 PM
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posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: johnnylaw16
Well, I wouldn't know when one arrives. So we'll see what happens next week.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: johnnylaw16
Well, I wouldn't know when one arrives. So we'll see what happens next week.



It'll be reported. SCOTUS Blog will have it when it does arrive.



posted on Dec, 4 2020 @ 02:40 PM
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Pennsylvania GOP is now asking for Congress to intercede in the Pennsylvania election.

mobile.twitter.com...

Good luck with that! Congress has a very low 12% public approval rate for a good reason.



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