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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM
The scary thing is that it sounds like some people here are ripe to repeat it even though we could be learning from it.
I fully agree that kids who are reading should be encouraged. I've been blessed with a reader although mine's more into stuff like Percy Jackson and Wings of Fire. He and I are working through The Hunger Games together right now as a "team" read. He's a boy, so he's all into the action, but we talk about what's going on and why too.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
originally posted by: Annee
I used to be against banning these classics for kids, until I recently re-read them. Even the Hardy Boys — while looking for classics for my grandson.
I have changed my mind after reading them.
With millions of books at our disposal, there is zero reason to subject today’s children to these antiquated thoughts, ideas, and prejudices.
Who cares if someone deemed them classics —they are not necessary.
The debate within the district comes after a summer of mass protests calling for an end to the unjust treatment of Black people. As a result, many institutions and school districts like BUSD are taking a hard look at themselves, their policies, curriculums and practices, in many cases publishing antiracist statements. And while book banning has a long history in America, the situation in Burbank — once a sundown town that practiced racial segregation — is freshly complicated. www.latimes.com...
No offence Annee but with the commentary I see from you, you're hardly a yardstick of reasonable thought.
Why not let the kids be exposed to historically offensive language to start the conversation around why it's wrong today, why we no longer use it and discuss how we move forward and treat people?
Banning and cancelling everything is the mindset of children who lack the IQ points to departmentalise and properly analyse sensitive issues.
It's the cowards path to simply stick your head in the sand.
Because, you’re a Right Wing Traditionalist?
Am I? I find that quite interesting seeing as I struggle to label myself.
Indicative of your level of thinking though - anybody who thinks differently to or challenges your opinions is automatically the opposite of you and put in a neat little box so you don't have to actually think for yourself or challenge your beliefs.
The fact that you provide a six word response to some reasonable thoughts and questions says it all.
Sorry I hurt your brain.
My opinion stands.
I’m well aware of the majority demographic of this board.
Which is why I’m not going to debate. Somewhere else I might.
Have a good day.
originally posted by: Annee
I used to be against banning these classics for kids, until I recently re-read them. Even the Hardy Boys — while looking for classics for my grandson.
I have changed my mind after reading them.
With millions of books at our disposal, there is zero reason to subject today’s children to these antiquated thoughts, ideas, and prejudices.
Who cares if someone deemed them classics —they are not necessary.
The debate within the district comes after a summer of mass protests calling for an end to the unjust treatment of Black people. As a result, many institutions and school districts like BUSD are taking a hard look at themselves, their policies, curriculums and practices, in many cases publishing antiracist statements. And while book banning has a long history in America, the situation in Burbank — once a sundown town that practiced racial segregation — is freshly complicated. www.latimes.com...
originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
originally posted by: Gnawledge
In this internet age rife with crazy, if a kid is reading ANY literature, hell, Mein Kampf or The Anarchist's Cookbook - it's a good thing.
Maybe kids will learn to spell at least.
They are already over-exposed all day everday to hatred, vice, and nonsense. Better if it's read, I think.
Great point - I was going to use Mein Kampf as an example.
Say we ban it and remove all discussion and commentary around it's wrongs and the evil it helped to wreak upon the world and soon enough we forget those lessons that people paid in blood for.
Cancel culture needs to be cancelled.
originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM
Yeah i've heard of them. It was Sublime that got me into that kind of music. I like that California reggae punk stuff, though nothing comes close to sublime. Bradley was something else when it came to music production and song writing. He goes greatly underappreciated.
Can't find it on youtube, but there's a bootleg out there called Rewind Selecta, it mixes sublime songs withhe original songs that infuenced them and introduces the idea of reggae riddims and the whole culture and remixing and re-releasing that exists with that kind of music.
It's what music looks like free of artificial copyright restraints limited only by human creativity. It's all thanks to extremely lax Jamaican copyright laws during the 50's-90's such music or even rap and hip-hop, drum and bass or a lot of genres exists at all. You'd be surprised how many songs are variations of reggae riddims
Even things like
This remix of the real rock riddim used in the snes game Earthbound.
This is a remix of
originally posted by: Gnawledge
And to cut in on dug88 and your's music talk...speaking to censorship.
I have a memory of being in 5th grade when 2 Live Crew (sp?) emerged. I had a copy recorded from a friend recorded from a friend...etc. and was listening to it in my room when my mom walked in.
Every part of that album was raunchy. Know what she did? Asked what I was listening to, shook her head, said, "this is crap. Are there even instruments? Do they just swear?" She listened a bit, said, try harder...and shut the door.
Thing is, she let me listen to it. And I quickly learned she was right. The ...and Justice for All Metallica album was so much better. LOL
originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: ketsuko
I'm ok with it as long as they make 1984 required reading.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Annee
Then why are we still teaching them about all the horrors of it in history? Isn't that equally about all those "anitquated" ideas and prejudices?
Additionally, reading about in a good story makes the idea far more "human" than simply learning the dry fact of it in history. You feel what the characters felt meaning you feel the horrors of being segregated, a slave, etc.
I don’t agree children need this shoved in their face at school.
They deal with it enough in real life.