War is over (for now)

us and them
and after all we're only ordinary men.
(r. waters)

many democrats have used postal voting because it's safer. trump has prescribed a different path for his supporters and many republicans have probably followed this path. it's quite normal that the votes from the postal vote are published rather later - that can also be observed in other elections. and in probably every election there is fraud or abuse. but only in small numbers. if it goes into the hundreds of thousands, the election must probably be cancelled. but that seems unlikely.

there are videos. some staged or misinterpreted or old or actually showing some sort of counting-failure etc... but there is not one that shows widespread fraud. the old tactic. to claim something, but never be able to prove it, and even ignore evidence, always attack, never retreat. but we are not on a gladiatorial contests. real life isn't working that way.

biden has won. trump has lost. it's time for someone who can calm people down. and if he even puts them to sleep, that's still better than the daily madness that comes from trumps world. the radicals have to keep waiting (they are used to it) and hope that some glory day the long-awaited civil war will break out and finally revenge will be taken.

what if it is proven that there was no big fraud, no big conspiracy? will trump accept it? will the hardcore trump fans here on ats accept it?

please smile. war is over. for now. but the next election will come for sure.

peace

a reply to: oloufo

Election fraud in any amount is how you go from

'A government for the people by the people'

To

'A dictator'

Americans should know this, they spent the last 50 years doing it to south america, south east Asia, the middle east, eastern europe, Africa.

You'd think a country running around creating banana republics and tinpot dictators could figure out when it's happening inside their own country.

OP. You have convinced me. You have changed my entire outlook with your well constructed thought out post of wisdom.

Welcome President Joe Biden! My true honoured master.

I will happily comply with the undisputed progressive mandate that the people of this country have overwhelmingly asked for.

Welcome to Banana Republic.

a reply to: oloufo

Yeah. Let's just forget the fact that the state of Pennsylvania outright ignored not one, but two US Supreme court orders. ::yawn:: unprecedented.

Oh...and the MOUNTAIN of Democratic voter fraud evidence that's increasing by the hour.

America wasn't built on people who abandon their values and roll over because it's the more convenient route.

And I'll also remind you that the Democrats have cheated and pissed off over 70 MILLION Trump voters and not one city has been burned to the ground, nor has anything even close to a riot occurred.

Preach unity now. But watch what the left does when Trump turns out victorious.....then and only then can you tell folks "calm down...it's over."

a reply to: oloufo

Are you a presenter on the German networks? You sound just like them. A nice, rational-sounding argument why authority of any kind should never be questioned; it is one of the staples of the German media.

That works well in Germany. It has never worked well in the USA.

Cheers

originally posted by: oloufo
[ biden has won. trump has lost. it's time for someone who can calm people down. and if he even puts them to sleep, that's still better than the daily madness that comes from trumps world

As a foreigner surely it's best to let the people of the USA sort out their own democratic processes without imposing ones own ideas. It's their country after all and they have their own ways of doing things

a reply to: oloufo

almost. We are going to check a few things just to be sure. And who could argue with wanting to be absolutely sure everything is done correctly. The only ones I can think of would be someone who cheated. Honest folks would welcome a fact checker.

So we will be with you soon, just have a couple things to do.

a reply to: oloufo

nvm

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

When You've Got Nothing To Lose. When you have figured out there will be no repercussions.

This is when the ends justify the means. You'll lie (Russia, Russia, Russia). You'll destroy, you'll steal, you'll kill (Burn Loot Murder). You'll restrict (COVID-19).

I could go on, but every poster on ATS has watched the events of the last four years unfold.

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: oloufo

nvm

Glad I caught that before you removed it. It was awesome.

a reply to: caterpillage

Yeah, second thoughts on posting strong language. Still wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Woods!
Here's a link if anyone missed it-
twitter

a reply to: oloufo

Fraud is when the supreme court of Pennsylvania overrides the US Constitution and creates law where none was created by the state legislature. But, Democrat justices seem to have a bad habit of legislating from the bench.

Fraud, by it's very definition, says this: "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain."

There is evidence of fraud through the above example I mentioned. There is also fraud noted by the hundreds of individuals willing to testify under oath about what they saw or weren't allowed to see.

I think the point Democrats are making is this...sure there is fraud, but it's only a little bit and not enough to sway the outcome of the election. So, in essence they admit to fraud, but not enough provable fraud to overturn the results.

For 70+ million of us, the illusion of fair elections no loner exists. The reality being displayed in front of every American right now is that Democrats will take whatever measures they need to in order to ensure a victory, even if that means outright cheating. Call it a trial run for all future presidential elections, but it's always been a dirty little secret that Dems commit fraud every election cycle. That's why Republicans typically have to over perform in order to win.

Democrats were almost giddy over Covid and the thought that they could now push mail-in voting, knowing that once those ballots were mixed in it would be impossible to separate them out. Hence the "where's your proof" condescension.

No matter the outcome, Biden will always be president (with a little 'p') and the legitimacy of this election will always be in doubt.

Bullcrap.Democrats might as well accept that they are going to get the same treatment they gave Republicans for the next 4 years.Hopefull the killing doesn't start but it well may after this fiasco of a election.a reply to: oloufo

The war is just warming up, stay on your knees if you want.

a reply to: oloufo

Over ?

No not Over.

Just beginning the Fraud Wars are .

-Yoda

a reply to: oloufo

You do realize that the swing states are so close; that the total spread is likely under 50,000? I mean, P.A. is 47.3 vs 47.8; that's how close the votes are right now, with still 2% to count?

We're talking about a fraction of one percent of the national vote, is all that's required to make a loser a winner, right?

a reply to: oloufo

So the whole reason for mail in ballots was covid right?

So why did everyone celebrate in the streets and the media not complain about super spreaders?

a reply to: JDmOKI

Because , just like with the trump rallies, excitement and emotion cause humans to do dumb things.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: JDmOKI

Because , just like with the trump rallies, excitement and emotion cause humans to do dumb things.

Probably just a lil taste of the hypocrisy we should expect for the next four years