Republican governors want to crack down on protests

Sorry, misleading title was merely a side effect of it being just too long for the thread title field, & I truncated it. Actual article title is:

Republican governors want to crack down on protests by targeting their funding — how that could create ‘a slippery slope’

MarketWatch

The meat of this being:

Lawmakers in some states have responded to this year’s wave of marches and rallies by creating harsher criminal penalties for demonstrators. In Tennessee, for instance, after months of racial justice protests outside the state capitol, the Republican governor signed a bill making it a felony to camp out on state property during a protest. People convicted of this crime will lose their right to vote.

In Florida and Texas, the results of the Nov. 3 election could help advance legislative proposals to rein in protesting from a new angle: the money side

In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis wants to create several new criminal offenses, including prosecuting “anyone who organizes or funds a violent or disorderly assembly” under the state’s anti-racketeering laws. In Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott proposed six new criminal offenses aimed at people who “hijack peaceful protests,” including one that outlaws “aiding and abetting riots with funds or organizational assistance.”

“It seems as if, if people are a part of a protest, whether it’s physically or financially, and it goes the least bit [out of control], then everyone can be held accountable,” Moore said, referring to the Texas governor’s proposal to penalize those who aid or abet “riots with funds or organizational assistance.”

Ok, enough excerpts, click the link (or search up your own preferred source if you don't like MW) and read it yourselves, come to your own conclusions.

My conclusion is I agree with the governors' points -- if you're funding riots/unrest, you're going to pay for it one way or the other. If you are an honest protester, you:

1.) Do not need bused in on someone else's dime.

2.) Do not need you tank filled by an organization to get there in the first place.

3.) Can make your own damn signage, poster board and markers are so cheap that even an Appalachian dirt floor shack resident can swing that.

And most importantly:

4.) You ARE ethically & morally responsible for policing your own rally/protest/demonstration to prevent it from devolving into wanton violence as a courtesy to others. If a citizen can be expected to be responsible for making sure a private house party doesn't get out of control & turn violent as a courtesy to others, protest organizers and participants are also responsible -- FULLY responsible -- for making sure their gatherings have the same positive end results.


Remove the money flow or make it very hard to utilize, and these wild animal riots die a swift death, I guarantee it. The only folks pissed about these changes to financial backing are the ones who stand to lose their intimidation edge, period. If people are serious about what they're protesting, they don't need someone else's money to prove the subject has merit.


Nitpick my point quartet, add to it, agree, disagree, either way -- your turn to chime in.

I thought we decided money was free speech?

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
I thought we decided money was free speech?

Certainly is, vote/support with your wallet isn't a thing for nothing.


Until it becomes racketeering. Then we have big problems brewing.

a reply to: Nyiah

What they want to cut down on is the amount of manufacturered protesting.

Americans protesting as a united front from grassroots organizing is not only legal, it is as American as apple pie.

Protests that are funded by people, organizations, or businesses, using protesters as pawns for their agenda, should be cracked down on.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
I thought we decided money was free speech?

Certainly is, vote/support with your wallet isn't a thing for nothing.


Until it becomes racketeering. Then we have big problems brewing.

Like when an insurance company uses money to make sure prices remain unreasonably high without buying their product?

I agree. Either it's free speech all the time for everyone or none of the time for anyone.

((( felony to camp out on state property during a protest. People convicted of this crime will lose their right to vote.)))

Of course most posters here would be fine with this www.cnbc.com... 77 million people go camping each year odds are extremely High it now a FELONY to be camping just because Your camping .

your camping next thing you know your being dragged out of your tent put in cuffs and well What WILL the Jail time be ?
and the Right wanted to say The demarcates created prison for profit .

for Christ sake Why cant the cops DO there JOB correctly ???
How Hard is it to SEE someone through bottles and AREST THEM ?
seams the ONLY thing cops are good for iS handing out tickets in some states .

a reply to: Nyiah

why not just enforce the laws that apply to assault & destruction of property?

originally posted by: midnightstar
for Christ sake Why cant the cops DO there JOB correctly ???
How Hard is it to SEE someone through bottles and AREST THEM ?
seams the ONLY thing cops are good for iS handing out tickets in some states .

Because the Hard Left WON'T LET THEM. Time and fekking again, a stupid git mayor or governor tells them to back off. They can't police if they aren't allowed to.

originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Nyiah

why not just enforce the laws that apply to assault & destruction of property?

Odds are, that's usually going to be the first route taken. IMO, this is a damn good back-up to have when all else fails.

originally posted by: midnightstar
for Christ sake Why cant the cops DO there JOB correctly ???
How Hard is it to SEE someone through bottles and AREST THEM ?
seams the ONLY thing cops are good for iS handing out tickets in some states .

from what we have all heard, the arrests aren't an issue. it's the prosecution. Liberals just turn them back out on the street for another night of burning in the name of.....

a reply to: midnightstar

I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't a strong point for you? You're not going to be dragged out of your tent and arrested for camping. You'll be dragged out of your tent and arrested if you're camping on state property in the middle of a protest.

originally posted by: midnightstar
for Christ sake Why cant the cops DO there JOB correctly ???
How Hard is it to SEE someone through bottles and AREST THEM ?
seams the ONLY thing cops are good for iS handing out tickets in some states .

Then it serves you right for camping in the middle of a protest that turns into a riot. Because if you were "just camping" and saw this protest gathering around you, why are you staying???

I guess that type of logic escapes you because the MSM hasn't given you their perspective and talking points on the topic yet.

Sounds like you are already "unified"...and can't think for yourself.

Shame really.

a reply to: midnightstar

Is that why they arrest everyone urban camping in certain large urban areas? Pay attention to what the issue at hand is. This isn't about cracking down on the homeless although that's another issue. This is about large monied interests endlessly funding people to engage in violence that destroys livelihoods and even lives in some instances.

Using the tools we have, almost anyone can gather a group via Fakebook or Twit and go out and march around yelling angrily, but the Summer of Love had busing and slick mass produced signage, pallets of water and bricks laid out in convenient places for people to lob at police and windows. All that takes a lot more money than mere grassroots organizing.

Blocking highways should be considered suicide.

Republican governors want to crack down on protests

Won't be able to legally once President Harris passes her first executive order.....

a reply to: mikell
They should break out the snowplows, just like all the other times snowflakes are impeding travel on our roads/highways.

originally posted by: TKDRL
a reply to: mikell
They should break out the snowplows, just like all the other times snowflakes are impeding travel on our roads/highways.

It'd be like a two-fer with one combo truck instead of using a plow truck & a salt truck -- clear the road AND salt it at the same time.

But wouldn't that be an excessive saltiness layer? I mean, it's not good for the environment at all

a reply to: network dude

burning in the name of.....

Starred for possible Rage Against the Machine reference.

Don't tell me if it wasn't, I want to believe it was.

a reply to: CriticalStinker